next game to push the graphical envelope?

uzibear · 04-20-08, 01:24 AM

crysis has killed our machines, what's next? is there anything on the horizon? i'm hoping not, wallet needs a break

redrumy3 · 04-20-08, 01:53 AM

alan wake maybe ? haze ? farcry 2 ? Fallout 3 ?

theres going to be a couple of games coming out im sure will make pc crawl like crysis

jorisje123456 · 04-20-08, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by redrumy3

alan wake maybe ? haze ? farcry 2 ? Fallout 3 ?

theres going to be a couple of games coming out im sure will make pc crawl like crysis

Farcry 2 will be on par with crysis when it will come to system reqs, maybe even lower. (Farcry 2 will have to be playable on consoles too)

blueswitch · 04-20-08, 09:26 AM

it will be interesting to see farcry 2 and how close it comes to crysis eye candy wise and if it's on par which game has the more efficient engine.

>HyperlogiK< · 04-20-08, 10:49 AM

Is Far Cry 2 at all based on the original Cry Engine or is it entirely new tech?

I think that there is something to the suggestions that PC developments will be dictated by the capabilities of consoles from now on. Crysis and UT3 were serious flops and as a result I think we really are moving to high end PC games just being console ports with higher resolutions and some better textures. I doubt that many graphical envelope pushing games will be released for PC until the next gen of consoles come out.

Having said that, this might be a good thing as devs may start experimenting in other ways, like free ad funded games, games which actually run on most computers or even (god forbid) innovative storylines.

notluzn · 04-20-08, 09:36 PM

There might be an AvP 3 coming out soon

knight_of_knee · 04-20-08, 09:57 PM

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There might be an AvP 3 coming out soon

I hope so, I still play AVP2 every once and a while and it's fun, but it'd be nice to have some eye candy. :P

Frogbones · 04-20-08, 10:08 PM

ShhhhT I want a game to push the gameplay envelope.

I'm sure Far Cry will present a challenge.

The new Total War release might push on graphix. Also the new release of a X3 game might also be intense on eye candy and such.

deathman20 · 04-20-08, 10:10 PM

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There might be an AvP 3 coming out soon

Heard about this one as well looking forward to it.

Hardin · 04-20-08, 10:53 PM

Alan Wake might push the processor envelope by effectively using a quad core. I'm not sure about pushing the graphical envelope though.

Neural Net · 04-21-08, 12:05 PM

Well, the new Stalker expansion seems to be full DX10, it has volumetric smoke and fire which looks awesome. I'm going to be playing this just for the graphics and see how it taxes my system (it'll have a quad in it by then.

You guys are right on Alan Wake being CPU taxing, looking forward to that. Who doesn't enjoy hurricanes?

AvP3? All I've heard has been news about Aliens: Colonial Marines, is that what you guys mean or is it something else?

Dawn of War II looks like it could be a taxing game, despite it using a heavily modified version of the engine used in Company of Heroes it looks extremely detailed.

I'm not sure about Far Cry 2, I'm half expecting an SLI system of 2 high end cards to run this game without any problems, it doesn't appear to be quite as detailed as Crysis, but it's hard to judge from the videos. I'll be playing it regardless. Oh and >HyperlogiK< I'm pretty sure Far Cry 2's engine called "Dunia" is brand new but I'm not sure so don't quote me on that.

Hardin · 04-21-08, 12:37 PM

I just hope Stalker Clear Skies doesn't crash whenever I try loading my save games. I can't play a game that I can't load. So I just gave up and uninstalled it.

mrbobc · 04-21-08, 02:30 PM

ive heard farcry 2 will be worse on our machines than crysis is, and alan wake also looks very pretty along with the new stalker too, would be my bet!

though i want all 3 now!! on max settings...!!!!

>HyperlogiK< · 04-21-08, 10:36 PM

Think about it, STALKER with DX10 and the bugs fixed. It might be my game of the year.

WonderingSoul · 04-22-08, 11:07 AM

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Think about it, STALKER with DX10 and the bugs fixed. It might be my game of the year.

/RANT -- I do not work for GSC Gameworld by any means, I just LOVE STALKER.

The original STALKER got many nominations, but I don't know if it got any official GOTW. I know it got "Best Atmosphere" and "Hidden Gem" of 2007 from Games for Windows. And reader's choice for "Most Surprisingly Good Game" and as well "Best Atmosphere". Those are just a few top awards I can recall.

STALKER is by far one of the most immersive games I have ever played. I have explored every inch of landscape in that game and have found nothing but pure awesomeness in it's design.

ENDRANT

Personally. I think Huxley is gonna do some damage. UT3 engine for MMO play? I know it really scales well for older machines; but rendering that much on screen is gonna need some serious memory buffering.

Frogbones · 04-22-08, 04:18 PM

I also have much love for STALKER great game (bugs aside) the community is great..and some really awsome mods and skins and such for the game. Atmosphere, and balistics is what really shine in this game. I noticed the other night while in a shoot-out that when I missed, the bullet would hit past the intended target and ricoshae (sp) and see the bullet hit elsewhere...never seen that in a game before.

Fun times.

Krogen · 04-22-08, 11:01 PM

I don't think there are any FPSs that push the envelope much further (farcry 2 should add a little bit more eye candy but nothing too significant).

On the other hand, check out GRID: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/32013.html

And maybe project offset: http://www.projectoffset.com/news.php
Well, maybe not, but when I first saw the screenshots last year they did look pretty darn amazing.

WonderingSoul · 04-22-08, 11:57 PM

Oh man, I forgot!!

The new game from id software! RAGE

pejsaboy · 04-23-08, 09:09 PM

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Oh man, I forgot!!

The new game from id software! RAGE

Found a trailer on youtube for this... first google result. Looks promising

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Frogbones Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Fort Worth, TX	ShhhhT I want a game to push the gameplay envelope. I'm sure Far Cry will present a challenge. The new Total War release might push on graphix. Also the new release of a X3 game might also be intense on eye candy and such. __________________ Don't believe the HYPE, or become deluted by the HYPE!!! Take pride in ur rig like every gamer should: I7 860@3.0GHz . 8gig Mushkin Enhanced DDR3 560TIOC X-FI Extreme Gamer 600W OCZ Antec Nine Hundred case.
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Neural Net Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: UK	Well, the new Stalker expansion seems to be full DX10, it has volumetric smoke and fire which looks awesome. I'm going to be playing this just for the graphics and see how it taxes my system (it'll have a quad in it by then. You guys are right on Alan Wake being CPU taxing, looking forward to that. Who doesn't enjoy hurricanes? AvP3? All I've heard has been news about Aliens: Colonial Marines, is that what you guys mean or is it something else? Dawn of War II looks like it could be a taxing game, despite it using a heavily modified version of the engine used in Company of Heroes it looks extremely detailed. I'm not sure about Far Cry 2, I'm half expecting an SLI system of 2 high end cards to run this game without any problems, it doesn't appear to be quite as detailed as Crysis, but it's hard to judge from the videos. I'll be playing it regardless. Oh and >HyperlogiK< I'm pretty sure Far Cry 2's engine called "Dunia" is brand new but I'm not sure so don't quote me on that. __________________ CPU: Core i7 2600k @4.5Ghz 1.26v + Corsair H80 GPU: 2x Crossfired MSI 6950 2GB @900Mhz/1300mhz MOBO: Gigabyte Z68X-UD4-B3 RAM: 16GB Kingston C9 1600Mhz HD: 2x Corsair Force 3 120GB + 2TB Spinpoint F4 CASE: Antec P182 PSU: Antec Truepower 750 My YouTube* channel* (GTA4 Machinima): Bobisuruncle54
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