WRT54GL vs WRT54G

majinwar · 05-08-08, 10:28 AM

Hey guys, the place where I usually buy stuff hasn't had the GL for quite some time, so I am wondering if the WRT54G with DD-WRT firmware will do just as good as the GL??

If there's a really good reason I should wait for the GL, please let me know.

Trap05 · 05-08-08, 10:40 AM

Get the GL someplace else it's worth it.

JamesXP · 05-08-08, 10:57 AM

I do beleive the GL does run linux, but the G might not, I do beleive the GLs are more supported via WRT firmwares.

nd4spdbh2 · 05-08-08, 11:06 AM

the WRT54GL has the hardware of the original WRT54G v4, the GL runs linux stock, and is very easy to put other firmware on it.

Dermen · 05-08-08, 12:44 PM

There are other routers that can use DD-WRT. Asus wl-520gu is the only one I know off the top of my head that is widely available, it also has a newer, higher clocked chip in it than the WRT54GL. Most Buffalo routers work as well, but they are hard to find.

JamesXP · 05-08-08, 03:12 PM

^

Yeah I beleive buffalo routers are banned in the USA, not sure why.

nd4spdbh2 · 05-08-08, 03:15 PM

ya i love my wrt54gl never had to restart it once in the 2 yrs i have had it.

Madwand · 05-08-08, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by majinwar

Hey guys, the place where I usually buy stuff hasn't had the GL for quite some time, so I am wondering if the WRT54G with DD-WRT firmware will do just as good as the GL?

No, the GL has twice the RAM and flash RAM as the current non-GL versions. You can't even run the full version of DD-WRT on the non-GL version because of the lack of flash RAM, and the non-GL version is often less stable under load / over time because of the shortage of RAM. There's no way around these problems with firmware; they're cost-cutting measures at the hardware level.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linksys_WRT54G_series

So I suggest having it ordered into the store or getting it elsewhere or online.

Mooyo · 05-14-08, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesXP

^

Yeah I beleive buffalo routers are banned in the USA, not sure why.

Must have been recent, I quit Worst Buy in January and we sold them then.

DirtSandwich · 05-15-08, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesXP

^

Yeah I beleive buffalo routers are banned in the USA, not sure why.

here's the readers digest version...
CSIRO (patent troll company that doesn't actually sell any product... just collects patents) thinks they own wireless through some patent. lawsuits ensue. judge (who thought the movie Idiocracy was a documentary) says that above patent troll owns an IEEE standard that infringes on their product that... doesn't exist because they don't make a product but they.... own the idea of... no wires. Here's their patent. If they win it will be a sad day IMHO.

Dale407 · 05-15-08, 03:40 AM

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here's the readers digest version...
CSIRO (patent troll company that doesn't actually sell any product... just collects patents) thinks they own wireless through some patent. lawsuits ensue. judge (who thought the movie Idiocracy was a documentary) says that above patent troll owns an IEEE standard that infringes on their product that... doesn't exist because they don't make a product but they.... own the idea of... no wires. Here's their patent. If they win it will be a sad day IMHO.

OMG! They can't be serious! Sad day indeed!

grumperfish · 05-16-08, 01:42 AM

If they win and I have to import my next WHR-HP-G54 from Taiwan I will be very disappointed.

But yeah, jumping on the get-the-L-bandwagon. DD-WRT Micro firmware and the lacking RAM is a pain. Just finished configuring a friend's -G the other day and it's showing nowhere near the stability of my other friend's -L.

Here's the GL on Newegg.

$60bux. Get it or you'll end up kicking yourself for buying a -G or -GS.

SniperXX · 05-23-08, 11:11 AM

Im running a GL and also a G. No problems with either one, they both run solid.

The only bug I hate with the G is that it seems like the settings get lost when I unplug it and replug it in... So just save yourself the annoyances of the G and get the GL.

Oroka Sempai · 05-23-08, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperXX

The only bug I hate with the G is that it seems like the settings get lost when I unplug it and replug it in... So just save yourself the annoyances of the G and get the GL.

I had that problem with a v8 and DD-WRT micro. For that router I just put the stock firmware back on it, and it is fine now. I scored a lightly used v1.1 on ebay with some aftermarket antennas and a matching network card, and it works great with DD-WRT.

mepis · 05-23-08, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Oroka Sempai

I had that problem with a v8 and DD-WRT micro. For that router I just put the stock firmware back on it, and it is fine now. I scored a lightly used v1.1 on ebay with some aftermarket antennas and a matching network card, and it works great with DD-WRT.

I personally havnt had this problem. It works fine for me. Personally I hvae had the wrt54g for about a month and a half now with the dd-wrt micro firmware flashed on it and it's had uptime and complete stability since I put ddwrt on it. Now as mentioned the GL does have its improvements but if you dont have tha ability to get one a G with the ddwrt will work too.

Oroka Sempai · 05-24-08, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mepis

I personally havnt had this problem. It works fine for me. Personally I hvae had the wrt54g for about a month and a half now with the dd-wrt micro firmware flashed on it and it's had uptime and complete stability since I put ddwrt on it. Now as mentioned the GL does have its improvements but if you dont have tha ability to get one a G with the ddwrt will work too.

With a Version 8? The v8 has non-removeable antenna, and less RAM than other models.

mepis · 05-24-08, 05:06 PM

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With a Version 8? The v8 has non-removeable antenna, and less RAM than other models.

Yes it is a version 8. As I said I have had no problem with it and the flashed ddwrt micro package on it. I am aware of the limitations of the router with the non removable antennas and the limited ram. But I still have had no problem with it what so ever. It has been running 24/7 for a long time now without reset or drop out. Also the stock antennas that come with it still give me a full signal anywhere on my property or house which is roughly about 1 acre in size in downtown Lancaster, PA with concrete, interference and all.

Dont get me wrong. I did not say this was a better router then the GL version. Just for clarification I said if you do not have the means or ability to order a GL version online the normal v8 G version with the DDwrt firmware does an excellent job. Some people do not have the ability to order online. And if that is the case the GL version found brick and mortar is going to be much more expensive. So if this is the case for you as I mentioned, if not by all means order the GL version online.

05-08-08, 10:28 AM	Thread Starter #1
majinwar Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada	WRT54GL vs WRT54G Hey guys, the place where I usually buy stuff hasn't had the GL for quite some time, so I am wondering if the WRT54G with DD-WRT firmware will do just as good as the GL?? If there's a really good reason I should wait for the GL, please let me know. __________________ CPU: Intel E8400 @ 4.0Ghz Cooling: Thermalright 120 Ultra eXtreme MB: Asus Maximus Formula GPU: ATI Sapphire 4870 1GB PSU: Corsair HX750W RAM: 2x1 Gb OCZ DDR2 PC8500 1066Mhz HD: OCZ Vertex 60Gb SSD Case: Slightly Modified Antec 900
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nd4spdbh2 Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Camarillo, CA!	ya i love my wrt54gl never had to restart it once in the 2 yrs i have had it. __________________ #12 in the 4ghz core 2 duo club baby! - 52 inches of CRYSIS! - Black Belt Ubercloxx0r -- Heatware Main -- Lian Li V2000b -- i7 2700k -- MSI Z68A-GD80 -- 12gb 1600 -- GTX560Ti --Adata 128gb S510 & 2x500gb -- Seasonic S12 600w -- Dell 2209WA HTPC -- Silverstone GD05B -- E7200 @ 3.2ghz -- G41-M7 -- 4GB 800mhz -- g210 passive -- 320gb 2.5in WD -- Antec EA 430w -- 52inch Samsung LCD Server -- Antec NSK4480B -- E3300 @ 2.5ghz -- ECS G33T-M2 -- 3gb 667mhz -- Onboard Vid -- 500Gb + 1TB hatachi + 1tb WD -- Zalman 400w Netbook - Dell Mini 9 - Atom 1.6ghz - 8GB ssd - 2GB pc6400 - WIN 7 PRO! Need 4 Speed - BH
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05-16-08, 01:42 AM	#12
grumperfish Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: South Florida	If they win and I have to import my next WHR-HP-G54 from Taiwan I will be very disappointed. But yeah, jumping on the get-the-L-bandwagon. DD-WRT Micro firmware and the lacking RAM is a pain. Just finished configuring a friend's -G the other day and it's showing nowhere near the stability of my other friend's -L. Here's the GL on Newegg. $60bux. Get it or you'll end up kicking yourself for buying a -G or -GS. __________________ Desktop: i7 2600K @ 4.6ghz w/ TR HR-02 + SD 120x38mm // Gigabyte Z68XP-UD3P // XFX 6950 2GB 16GB G-Skill RipjawsX 1600mhz // Samsung 830 128GB // 6TB // Thermaltake Armor // Corsair TX750 Server: Q6600 G0 // Gigabyte EP35-DS3R // 4GB G-Skill DDR2 // 4850 512MB // 4.25TB // Corsair TX650 Laptop: Latitude D630 // C2M T7300 // 4GB DDR2 // X3100 // 160GB Smoothwall: P4 2.4C // 1GB DDR // AOpen MX4GVR // 80GB // Corsair CX430 I like HEAT
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