Anyone ever heard of this?

Ryan Grubb · 05-24-08, 10:23 PM

ULTRA ChillTec Thermo Electric CPU Cooler -- a solid-state active heat pump capable of transferring heat from one side of the device to the other $129

metloaf · 05-24-08, 10:32 PM

Yeah basically a TEC attached to a heat pipe system to help draw off the heat...

http://www.ultraproducts.com/product...&productID=571

Ryan Grubb · 05-24-08, 11:11 PM

are they supposed to be good and are they maintance free?

metloaf · 05-25-08, 12:24 AM

TEC based cooling works by having a TEC (thermo-electric cooler) plate which creates a cold surface on one side by applying current and then moves heat to the opposite side. The reality is that most TEC units produce a fair amount of heat and exponentially higher the more they cool. This will then require more resources to get rid of that heat. They also draw a lot of wattage and usually require thier own power supply. I do not know much about this product specifically, however I do know that it is a TEC design. The other thing to consider is the fact that you most likely will have to insulate everything that comes in contact with that unit due to possibility of condensation if it gets below ambient temps. If you go to that much effort, you might as well be phase change cooling. I would personally stay away from it, thats just my .02 cents. I hope this helps a little.

Look here for further info regarding TEC's.
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=309722

Perseus · 05-25-08, 05:30 AM

It looks like this device tries to get around the condensation issue by not running the TEC all the time, which is pretty cool. If it can hover at just above ambient, and do so with precision, it would be worth the $ and more.

billb · 05-25-08, 08:12 AM

There's confusion here...........
1.)You seeem to think you've discovered something new. Peltier coolers have been used by overclockers for 10+ years. There were tecs marketed for slot1 and slotA CPUs.

2.) Running just above ambient temps isn't a proper goal. Running with the maximum Vcore is. Most high end watercooling will allow running at the highest Vcore a MOBO will supply.

3.) the time and effort to get a tec up and running (just below ambient) would be better spent on upgrading your CPU.

Perseus · 05-25-08, 08:29 AM

This unit obviously wasn't designed to be your father's TEC, which should be okay since things DO change over time, and last I heard there are still full-blown TECs available for purchase. As far as keeping a CPU just above ambient, why is that such a problem? The supposition in all of this is that we MUST all be running computers with the same goal in mind, and that's to be just what billb wants us to be.

There's no confusion here, at least not on my part.

billb · 05-26-08, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Perseus

This unit obviously wasn't designed to be your father's TEC, which should be okay since things DO change over time, and last I heard there are still full-blown TECs available for purchase. As far as keeping a CPU just above ambient, why is that such a problem? The supposition in all of this is that we MUST all be running computers with the same goal in mind, and that's to be just what billb wants us to be.

There's no confusion here, at least not on my part.

What's your goal?

Perseus · 05-26-08, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by billb

What's your goal?

To run as smoothly, efficiently and securely as possible. Beyond these things I'm fascinated with the new. Being my age I can clearly remember when the wonders most of us take take for granted didn't exist, and weren't even on the horizon for the most part. Now, what about you billb, what are your goals?

billb · 05-27-08, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Perseus

Being my age I can clearly remember when the wonders most of us take take for granted didn't exist,... Now, what about you billb, what are your goals?

I to share your vision of the present from the time of Ding-Dong School, polio, and dial phones. A box with moving pictures on it's screen..right in your living room, whoda thunk!

Right now?
Wake up in the morning.... again.
Drink a lot of good, strong coffee ...and Scotch.
Set a world record ...with a PIII on phase.

Perseus · 05-27-08, 05:27 PM

I'll leave the records to those who are so inclined. Maybe after retirement...

05-24-08, 10:23 PM	Thread Starter #1
Ryan Grubb Registered Join Date: Apr 2008	Anyone ever heard of this? ULTRA ChillTec Thermo Electric CPU Cooler -- a solid-state active heat pump capable of transferring heat from one side of the device to the other $129
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05-24-08, 10:32 PM	#2
metloaf Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Lancaster, PA	Yeah basically a TEC attached to a heat pipe system to help draw off the heat... http://www.ultraproducts.com/product...&productID=571 __________________ Xeon E3110 4.05ghz GIGABYTE X38-DS4, 2x2gig G-Skill, Sapphire HD 4870 flashed 860/1145, Watercooled via Apogee GTX and Maze 5 Intel E6400 2.13@3.36 on H2O4ghz Clubon Phase Asus P5B-D, 0804 bios, 2x1gb Crucial Ballistix PC2 8000 4-4-4-12, 430mhz at 2.25v Powercolor 1900XT 702/792 wall of fame
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05-24-08, 11:11 PM	Thread Starter #3
Ryan Grubb Registered Join Date: Apr 2008	are they supposed to be good and are they maintance free?
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05-25-08, 12:24 AM	#4
metloaf Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Lancaster, PA	TEC based cooling works by having a TEC (thermo-electric cooler) plate which creates a cold surface on one side by applying current and then moves heat to the opposite side. The reality is that most TEC units produce a fair amount of heat and exponentially higher the more they cool. This will then require more resources to get rid of that heat. They also draw a lot of wattage and usually require thier own power supply. I do not know much about this product specifically, however I do know that it is a TEC design. The other thing to consider is the fact that you most likely will have to insulate everything that comes in contact with that unit due to possibility of condensation if it gets below ambient temps. If you go to that much effort, you might as well be phase change cooling. I would personally stay away from it, thats just my .02 cents. I hope this helps a little. Look here for further info regarding TEC's. http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=309722 __________________ Xeon E3110 4.05ghz GIGABYTE X38-DS4, 2x2gig G-Skill, Sapphire HD 4870 flashed 860/1145, Watercooled via Apogee GTX and Maze 5 Intel E6400 2.13@3.36 on H2O4ghz Clubon Phase Asus P5B-D, 0804 bios, 2x1gb Crucial Ballistix PC2 8000 4-4-4-12, 430mhz at 2.25v Powercolor 1900XT 702/792 wall of fame
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05-25-08, 05:30 AM	#5
Perseus Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hanover Park, IL	It looks like this device tries to get around the condensation issue by not running the TEC all the time, which is pretty cool. If it can hover at just above ambient, and do so with precision, it would be worth the $ and more. __________________ i7 940, HK 3.0 LT WB, ASUS P6t DLX V2, GTX 480 SLI, BP FC blocks, Win7U 64bit Corsair Dominator GT 1600 6gig, MM Ext. Ascension AL case 2x655-B pump-EK top, 2x120.3 Coolgate rads+6xCorsair SPC120 HP fans XPSC dual bay res+T-line, Distilled + Silver X-Fi Fat. Pro PCI-e, Enermax Galaxy 1250 watt 5x2tb WD Caviar Black, 150g RaptorX My Heatware.
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05-25-08, 08:12 AM	#6
billb Member Join Date: Mar 2005	There's confusion here........... 1.)You seeem to think you've discovered something new. Peltier coolers have been used by overclockers for 10+ years. There were tecs marketed for slot1 and slotA CPUs. 2.) Running just above ambient temps isn't a proper goal. Running with the maximum Vcore is. Most high end watercooling will allow running at the highest Vcore a MOBO will supply. 3.) the time and effort to get a tec up and running (just below ambient) would be better spent on upgrading your CPU. __________________ AMD FX6300, ASUS M5A99X EVO R2.0, Samsung 840 Pro, Seagate 1 TB, Asus GTS450, Samsung N915 (two), PCP&C 1kw
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05-25-08, 08:29 AM	#7
Perseus Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hanover Park, IL	This unit obviously wasn't designed to be your father's TEC, which should be okay since things DO change over time, and last I heard there are still full-blown TECs available for purchase. As far as keeping a CPU just above ambient, why is that such a problem? The supposition in all of this is that we MUST all be running computers with the same goal in mind, and that's to be just what billb wants us to be. There's no confusion here, at least not on my part. __________________ i7 940, HK 3.0 LT WB, ASUS P6t DLX V2, GTX 480 SLI, BP FC blocks, Win7U 64bit Corsair Dominator GT 1600 6gig, MM Ext. Ascension AL case 2x655-B pump-EK top, 2x120.3 Coolgate rads+6xCorsair SPC120 HP fans XPSC dual bay res+T-line, Distilled + Silver X-Fi Fat. Pro PCI-e, Enermax Galaxy 1250 watt 5x2tb WD Caviar Black, 150g RaptorX My Heatware.
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05-27-08, 05:27 PM	#11
Perseus Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hanover Park, IL	I'll leave the records to those who are so inclined. Maybe after retirement... __________________ i7 940, HK 3.0 LT WB, ASUS P6t DLX V2, GTX 480 SLI, BP FC blocks, Win7U 64bit Corsair Dominator GT 1600 6gig, MM Ext. Ascension AL case 2x655-B pump-EK top, 2x120.3 Coolgate rads+6xCorsair SPC120 HP fans XPSC dual bay res+T-line, Distilled + Silver X-Fi Fat. Pro PCI-e, Enermax Galaxy 1250 watt 5x2tb WD Caviar Black, 150g RaptorX My Heatware.
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