stupid question of the day #2

maelstromracing · 06-07-08, 01:33 PM

Ok. I have Verizon FIOS. The route is in the back room. I recently converted my front room to the computer room. I currently have one CAT5 cable running from the router in the back room to the front room. (eventually I am going to run a new cat5 cable from the FIOS box to the front room, via the actic, but it is almost 100 degrees here and that means the attic is like 140. Too hot for me ) I have another router. Can I hook up say the output of router one (via 1 of the 4 ports) to the new router (via the WAN port) and then plug in all the other computers in to the 4 portsin the back? Thanks!!!

Aphex_Tom_9 · 06-07-08, 01:50 PM

yes

maelstromracing · 06-07-08, 02:16 PM

works perfect! Thanks!

maelstromracing · 06-07-08, 07:20 PM

ok last stupid question. I have the server and my game rig up an running on the router that is connected to the wireless router (which gets the initial WAN). The Laptop is connected via the wireless, but cannot see any of the computers on the 2nd router and the computers on the second router cannot see the wireless computer on the 1st router. What do I need to do now? Thanks!!

corruption · 06-07-08, 10:22 PM

Are all systems a member of the same workgroup?

maelstromracing · 06-07-08, 10:51 PM

all systems are on the same workgroup. Network was working fine. I changed rooms. The wireless router did not move. That has the laptop. The router with the cat5 cable into it's wan from the wireless has the server and my rig. My rig and server see each other, but they don't see the laptop. It looks like the wireless router assigns 192.168.0.1 and the wire assigns 192.168.1.1 and the wired router has an IP address on the wireless router as 192.168.0.3. I think that is where the problem lies...

dark_15 · 06-07-08, 10:59 PM

Just to confirm, is wireless router is downstream of the of the FIOS router? And you have it connected to the WAN port?

Can you set the router to not be a DHCP server, assign it a static IP on the 192.168.0.x network, and connect it on a LAN port?

More than likely the upstream router does not know how to reach the second network so it either drops the traffic, or sends it upstream where it is dropped. By eliminating the wireless router as a NAT device, it will be able to relay DHCP requests from the primary router, and no more of the two separate networks issues.

middydj · 06-08-08, 07:07 AM

I had a similar problem like this. I did something to the tune of what Dark_15 mentioned and it fixed my problem.

maelstromracing · 06-08-08, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dark_15

Just to confirm, is wireless router is downstream of the of the FIOS router? And you have it connected to the WAN port?

Can you set the router to not be a DHCP server, assign it a static IP on the 192.168.0.x network, and connect it on a LAN port?

It goes Wall-->Fios Wireless Router--> Cat5 Cable-->--Wired Router
Laptop^^^^ can't see Server and Game^^^
and vice versa. I tried making the wired router the nonDHCP like you said and that didn't work. Looks like I will be sweating pretty soon. Thanks for the help. It got at least 2 up again!!

06-07-08, 01:33 PM	Thread Starter #1
maelstromracing Member Join Date: May 2005	stupid question of the day #2 Ok. I have Verizon FIOS. The route is in the back room. I recently converted my front room to the computer room. I currently have one CAT5 cable running from the router in the back room to the front room. (eventually I am going to run a new cat5 cable from the FIOS box to the front room, via the actic, but it is almost 100 degrees here and that means the attic is like 140. Too hot for me ) I have another router. Can I hook up say the output of router one (via 1 of the 4 ports) to the new router (via the WAN port) and then plug in all the other computers in to the 4 portsin the back? Thanks!!! __________________ Main Rig Mother Board: MSI K8T Master2 Far7 WINXP PRO SP2 CPU(s): Dual Opteron 246 RAM: 1 GB APACER PC2700 ECC REG File Server and Toy(Toy is Identical but is the toy) Windows 2000 Professional on Server, WIN XP 64Bit on Toy. Motherboard: ECS NForce3 CPU: Sempron 3100+ (64Bit) (Toy 250X9) Burn baby burn! Ram: 512MB PC2700 no-name
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06-07-08, 01:50 PM	#2
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06-07-08, 02:16 PM	Thread Starter #3
maelstromracing Member Join Date: May 2005	works perfect! Thanks! __________________ Main Rig Mother Board: MSI K8T Master2 Far7 WINXP PRO SP2 CPU(s): Dual Opteron 246 RAM: 1 GB APACER PC2700 ECC REG File Server and Toy(Toy is Identical but is the toy) Windows 2000 Professional on Server, WIN XP 64Bit on Toy. Motherboard: ECS NForce3 CPU: Sempron 3100+ (64Bit) (Toy 250X9) Burn baby burn! Ram: 512MB PC2700 no-name
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06-07-08, 07:20 PM	Thread Starter #4
maelstromracing Member Join Date: May 2005	ok last stupid question. I have the server and my game rig up an running on the router that is connected to the wireless router (which gets the initial WAN). The Laptop is connected via the wireless, but cannot see any of the computers on the 2nd router and the computers on the second router cannot see the wireless computer on the 1st router. What do I need to do now? Thanks!! __________________ Main Rig Mother Board: MSI K8T Master2 Far7 WINXP PRO SP2 CPU(s): Dual Opteron 246 RAM: 1 GB APACER PC2700 ECC REG File Server and Toy(Toy is Identical but is the toy) Windows 2000 Professional on Server, WIN XP 64Bit on Toy. Motherboard: ECS NForce3 CPU: Sempron 3100+ (64Bit) (Toy 250X9) Burn baby burn! Ram: 512MB PC2700 no-name
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06-07-08, 10:51 PM	Thread Starter #6
maelstromracing Member Join Date: May 2005	all systems are on the same workgroup. Network was working fine. I changed rooms. The wireless router did not move. That has the laptop. The router with the cat5 cable into it's wan from the wireless has the server and my rig. My rig and server see each other, but they don't see the laptop. It looks like the wireless router assigns 192.168.0.1 and the wire assigns 192.168.1.1 and the wired router has an IP address on the wireless router as 192.168.0.3. I think that is where the problem lies... __________________ Main Rig Mother Board: MSI K8T Master2 Far7 WINXP PRO SP2 CPU(s): Dual Opteron 246 RAM: 1 GB APACER PC2700 ECC REG File Server and Toy(Toy is Identical but is the toy) Windows 2000 Professional on Server, WIN XP 64Bit on Toy. Motherboard: ECS NForce3 CPU: Sempron 3100+ (64Bit) (Toy 250X9) Burn baby burn! Ram: 512MB PC2700 no-name
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06-07-08, 10:59 PM	#7
dark_15 Internet Expert Senior Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Out on the road again...	Just to confirm, is wireless router is downstream of the of the FIOS router? And you have it connected to the WAN port? Can you set the router to not be a DHCP server, assign it a static IP on the 192.168.0.x network, and connect it on a LAN port? More than likely the upstream router does not know how to reach the second network so it either drops the traffic, or sends it upstream where it is dropped. By eliminating the wireless router as a NAT device, it will be able to relay DHCP requests from the primary router, and no more of the two separate networks issues. __________________ JNCIE-SEC #69, JNCIS-SSL, JNCIS-AC, JNCIA-IDP, JNCIA-WX HEAT Register Personal Blog
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06-08-08, 07:07 AM	#8
middydj Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: ohio	I had a similar problem like this. I did something to the tune of what Dark_15 mentioned and it fixed my problem.
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