A 4850 review at XS

keninishna · 06-15-08, 12:49 PM

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=191096

This card seems pretty sick for 200$ 1900 x 1200 no aa high settings card stock on crysis gets about 30 fps.

I think I'm going to have to go with a 4870 x2 2 gb model whenever they come out.

Jacobman · 06-15-08, 02:27 PM

Scores look very impressive for $200, will be a nice bang for buck card.

wingless · 06-15-08, 02:29 PM

I'm with you guys. I'm going for a 4870X2 for sure. It will be a nice upgrade from my 2900XT.

Neural Net · 06-15-08, 07:14 PM

OMG the 4850 does have 800SPs?!?!

Can't wait to see some 4870 and X2 benchmarks.

necrokiller · 06-15-08, 07:21 PM

We have a 8800GT killer at the $200 mark! Sweeet!

MadMan007 · 06-15-08, 08:30 PM

At that price point it needs to be an 8800GTS killer, granted that's no much more than the 8800GT, but yea it's looking nice.

G3F0RC3<>R4D30N · 06-15-08, 08:43 PM

OMG, this makes me wanna toss my 8800GTX for a 4870X2.... WOW! Can't wait this will be sweet, I hope Apple sticks a 4850 or a 4870/X2 in the Mac Pros

Brolloks · 06-15-08, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by necrokiller

We have a 8800GT killer at the $200 mark! Sweeet!

Not really at the same price level with the 8800GT going for around $130, you need to compare the HD4850 to the say 8800GTS 512 at least, even the GTS prices hover around $180 these days after rebates

Shiggity · 06-15-08, 10:16 PM

It's scaling very nicely at high resolutions. WTB 24" 1920x1200 widescreen

White_Pawn · 06-15-08, 10:38 PM

I'm glad i waited for this card.

Evilsizer · 06-16-08, 12:29 AM

looks like i might be switching GPU companies... im still going to wait and see though...

netmask · 06-16-08, 02:44 AM

Very impressive and really nice prices. I'll definitely go for a 4870.

g0dM@n · 06-16-08, 07:32 AM

What really drives me nuts is knowing that as more and more ATI cards come out the X1900XT(X) cards are going to sell for like $50 a pop really soon... I have one in my gf's machine (that I used to use) and it hurts to know it's going to be almost worthless compared to what's out there...

I'm glad to see ATI pushing the pace... I love both companies and glad to see the competition going strong!!

deathman20 · 06-16-08, 08:20 AM

Well is the say 2x 3870's in Crossfire faster or about the same as a 3870X2?

I'm really curious since I think the 4870 cores will be my first dual card system probably, just not sure which one to really go with. Dual 4870's or 4870X2... hmmmmm.

ghost_recon88 · 06-16-08, 08:24 AM

4870x2 is not just 2 HD4870s thrown onto one PCB. Its actually a dual-core die. The R700 core vs. the R770 that the 4850/4870 uses. I'm not sure if that's gonna make it faster then 2x HD4870 in Crossfire, or slower? I'd be willing to bet faster

deathman20 · 06-16-08, 08:38 AM

I'd think faster as well. Just curious is all if anything was spilled totally on the new dual core card yet since I haven't been following it 100%. Guess I gotta really look at other systems with dual cards, single dual core card, etc for cooling setups and all that and decide really from that maybe.

I'm getting to the point of itchin for a new card yet at the same time its like, do I really need one. Then I remind myself, im an OCer

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Kuroimaho · 06-16-08, 08:49 AM

The performance jump with overclocking is very nice.

Neural Net · 06-16-08, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by deathman20

I'd think faster as well. Just curious is all if anything was spilled totally on the new dual core card yet since I haven't been following it 100%. Guess I gotta really look at other systems with dual cards, single dual core card, etc for cooling setups and all that and decide really from that maybe.

I'm getting to the point of itchin for a new card yet at the same time its like, do I really need one. Then I remind myself, im an OCer

New Toy FTW.

I have been waiting for these cards, I need the X2

If the X2 is a dual core GPU, that will make it the most powerful GPU available, with 1600 SPs.

ratbuddy · 06-16-08, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ghost_recon88

4870x2 is not just 2 HD4870s thrown onto one PCB. Its actually a dual-core die. The R700 core vs. the R770 that the 4850/4870 uses. I'm not sure if that's gonna make it faster then 2x HD4870 in Crossfire, or slower? I'd be willing to bet faster

Got a source on the dual core thing?

Kuroimaho · 06-16-08, 11:52 AM

Well not sure about being dual core die, that would have worse yields but it won't need a bridge chip for communicating between the two dice so scaling will be better.

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keninishna Member Join Date: Sep 2006	A 4850 review at XS http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=191096 This card seems pretty sick for 200$ 1900 x 1200 no aa high settings card stock on crysis gets about 30 fps. I think I'm going to have to go with a 4870 x2 2 gb model whenever they come out. Last edited by keninishna; 06-15-08 at 02:00 PM.
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