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Slides reveal future intel processors (8-core)

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Still waiting for 16 cores :)

I'll probably jump ship to 8 though :p
 
dang 32nm huh... cant wait that means less heat more oc

The 45nm process didn't mean very much for the average overclocker (hence so many people favouring G0 Q6600s over Q9xxx's), but Sandy Bridge should be interesting. I hope there is still enough of a market for monolithic gaming workstations that I can couple one up to a nice future Larrabee, Geforce or Radeon and play lubberly raytraced games.

I'm a little puzzled that everybody seems to be setting precise dates on 22nm and below when they apparently haven't even figured out what kind of process technologies they are going to use. But I guess they are pursing a bunch of options and throwing enough money towards the problem that one will work within something like the expected timeframe.
 
The 45nm process didn't mean very much for the average overclocker (hence so many people favouring G0 Q6600s over Q9xxx's), but Sandy Bridge should be interesting. I hope there is still enough of a market for monolithic gaming workstations that I can couple one up to a nice future Larrabee, Geforce or Radeon and play lubberly raytraced games.

I'm a little puzzled that everybody seems to be setting precise dates on 22nm and below when they apparently haven't even figured out what kind of process technologies they are going to use. But I guess they are pursing a bunch of options and throwing enough money towards the problem that one will work within something like the expected timeframe.

They are quickly nearing a point where the technology will have to drastically change to get smaller. IIRC, it was somewhere in the 20-30nm range where a large wall will be hit with the current process.
 
They are quickly nearing a point where the technology will have to drastically change to get smaller. IIRC, it was somewhere in the 20-30nm range where a large wall will be hit with the current process.

Intel sees a straigt shot to 10nm which is about where silicon can no longer be used save for a major breakthrough. Currently the silicon wall is said to be 9nm
 
There's going to be a really long time period from 22nm -> lower anyways. Maybe we'll see something innovative in there while everyone re-tools their FABS to make the next gen CPUs.

What we really need is better cooling techniques. That will enable a lot more exotic architectures to surface.
 
Intel sees a straigt shot to 10nm which is about where silicon can no longer be used save for a major breakthrough. Currently the silicon wall is said to be 9nm

Really? I thought Intel had to scrap silicon to go from 65nm to 45nm. Aren't they using exotics in 45nm now?

Or is it that the substrate is still silicon, but the metals used for the transistors/interconnects have changed?
 
Really? I thought Intel had to scrap silicon to go from 65nm to 45nm. Aren't they using exotics in 45nm now?

Or is it that the substrate is still silicon, but the metals used for the transistors/interconnects have changed?
I think the gates changed...can't confirm though >.>

Isn't that what the "high k gates" are?
 
Really? I thought Intel had to scrap silicon to go from 65nm to 45nm. Aren't they using exotics in 45nm now?

Or is it that the substrate is still silicon, but the metals used for the transistors/interconnects have changed?

Its silicon, but different gate oxide and gate material. The ever increasing leakage was expected to become a huge problem on 45nm and smaller processes since long ago, the whole industry been working on it for years. Heres how far AMD had come already 5 years ago:
http://news.cnet.com/AMD-overhauls-transistors,-chips/2100-1006_3-1015965.html
 
Its silicon, but different gate oxide and gate material. The ever increasing leakage was expected to become a huge problem on 45nm and smaller processes since long ago, the whole industry been working on it for years. Heres how far AMD had come already 5 years ago:
http://news.cnet.com/AMD-overhauls-transistors,-chips/2100-1006_3-1015965.html

Gotcha. No more SiO2. High K, Halfnium, or whatever is used now, but still on the silicon substrate which will eventually have to be replaced close to 10nm.

Hasn't Intel's use of exotics in 45nm reduced leakage current significantly over 65nm parts using more traditional materials?
 
Sandy Bridge looks insane

Sandy Bridge will feature many key improvements. It will support wider vectors, which Intel says allows for more power efficient floating point operations. It also will feature "advanced data rearrangement", involving the use of 256 bit primitives. Intel says this will improve cache coordination and help to speed the flow of data. Furthering Sandy Bridge's monolithic nature, the new architecture will support three and four operand instructions and non destructive syntax to minimize register copies and allow for extensibility.

The architecture also features "flexible unaligned memory access support", which Intel indicates will allow computations to be immediately performed on data loaded from memory. Also Intel will offer up an extensible new opcode (VEX), which it says will reduce code size. The net results of the improvements Intel says will be an increase in performance of as much as 90 percent in certain mathematically intensive operations such as matrix multiplies.

Ray tracing will really take off with sandy bridge I think. Nehalem and Larabee 1.0 will get it started.

Not sure what else all that CPU power is going to be used for by a home user. By the time we get the native 8 core CPU, they may pump up hyperthreading even more (3-4 threads per core). 16+ threads seems like overkill even if you're encoding / gaming / e-mailing / surfing the web / music / and more heh. Not to mentino you'll be able to have 6 DIMMS /w 2GB modules of DDR3 or DDR4 in each DIMM for a total of 12 gigs of ram running at insane speeds.

I doubt we'll be getting anything higher than blue-ray level video for a while and GPU's are taking high powered encoding over anyways, they can just do it faster than CPUs now.
 
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