p5e3 premium vs rampage extreme

Beast53 · 08-17-08, 12:34 AM

opinions?

rdrash · 08-17-08, 12:42 AM

as a previous owner of a P5E3P I'd have to vote for the rampage extreme....

glock19owner · 08-17-08, 12:45 AM

Gotta go with RD on this one...the extreme...will let you know for sure in about 3 weeks when I get mine

rdrash · 08-17-08, 12:48 AM

lol glock...i'm waiting for my extreme to arrive as well

Beast53 · 08-17-08, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdrash

as a previous owner of a P5E3P I'd have to vote for the rampage extreme....

what's wrong with the p5e3p?

rdrash · 08-17-08, 01:04 AM

I am heavily into overclocking...I found the P5E3P a real pain in the backside to overclock, ofcourse at the time there weren't many people with the same board... Ross had more success than I did on his P5E3P, but he's a super clocker and he generally can do better than most with a given piece of hardware.

Specifically the P5E3P I had did not like extreme cold temperatures...iirc it would bug around -70c. Also I couldn't get my ram, QX9650, or a QX9770 to clock very well in that board (I have totally forgotten which BIOS I used) the BIOS updates may have fixed some of the issues by now.

Basically, it was a tough board to get overclocked, change one setting and no boot or stalled boot or blue screen. That was my expereince with that board...I actually gave it away twice, the first person I gave it to returned it to me within a few weeks becuase he had headaches getting it to overclock as well. The second guy still has the board but he doesn't overclock so he's satisfied with it at stock.

Beast53 · 08-17-08, 01:14 AM

rampage it is then...
heres my setup now
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/Pu...umber=12637387

Beast53 · 08-17-08, 01:32 AM

it kind sucks that it doesn't have the onboard wifi like the p5e3p does though, but oh well.
It's only $40 more so i might as well.

couple questions though, with that heatsink(?) under the first pcie slot, would i be able to crossfire 4870x2's if i decide to do so?

Also, I'm building the same system for my brother and i don't think he or I will be OC'ing his system. Would he be better of with the p5e3p or a different board?

glock19owner · 08-17-08, 02:13 AM

right away...if you plan on running quad-fire with 4870 X2's...you better rething your PSU...

You better thinking more along the line of 1000w+...those X2's are some serious power hogs alone...

Also...since you are going quad...if you plan on running high FSB...then you might want to rethink the MB also...you will have better OCing with a P45 board running a quad then you will with a X38/48 chipset board...the X38/48 chipset if physically limited to around 460 - 470...and as far as I know...there is no work around....the P45 boards can run 500+ all day long on quads...and since you plan on running dual X2's...you will never see the difference running 16x8 CF...

The X38/48 boards are really setup for the dual cores...especially the 45nm...

Beast53 · 08-17-08, 02:24 AM

I just changed my psu to a 1000w since it's got a package deal with the antec 1200 case i decided to go with.

I definitely will not be crossfiring right now, but I just wanna be safe now in case i decide to do so in the future.

As for the P45 boards, can you recommend me any?

Thanks!

glock19owner · 08-17-08, 02:32 AM

ASUS P5Q3 DELUXE

MSI P45 Diamond

Two of the best P45's out...

Beast53 · 08-17-08, 02:42 AM

Now that i think about it, would i be better of going dual core rather than quad core?

glock19owner · 08-17-08, 02:52 AM

Depends...what do you plan on using the system for?

Pretty much gaming and surfing...yes, go dual core...

If you plan on doing multi-tasking programs or any encoding/multi-media center workloads...then stay with the quad

Beast53 · 08-17-08, 03:13 AM

Well I'll probably be playing games most of the time, but i also do some media stuff, video/photo editing, etc. I'm also hoping that this build will last for at least a couple of years with some minor upgrades along the way such as crossfiring.

I also heard that games in the future will be utilizing quad cores, thats why i went with a quad

Blazing fire · 08-17-08, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdrash

I am heavily into overclocking...I found the P5E3P a real pain in the backside to overclock, ofcourse at the time there weren't many people with the same board... Ross had more success than I did on his P5E3P, but he's a super clocker and he generally can do better than most with a given piece of hardware.

Specifically the P5E3P I had did not like extreme cold temperatures...iirc it would bug around -70c. Also I couldn't get my ram, QX9650, or a QX9770 to clock very well in that board (I have totally forgotten which BIOS I used) the BIOS updates may have fixed some of the issues by now.

Basically, it was a tough board to get overclocked, change one setting and no boot or stalled boot or blue screen. That was my expereince with that board...I actually gave it away twice, the first person I gave it to returned it to me within a few weeks becuase he had headaches getting it to overclock as well. The second guy still has the board but he doesn't overclock so he's satisfied with it at stock.

have you tried DFI before? How does it fair to this in terms of ease of ocing?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beast53

Now that i think about it, would i be better of going dual core rather than quad core?

Read my sig.

rdrash · 08-17-08, 06:31 AM

[QUOTE=Blazing fire;5760794]have you tried DFI before? How does it fair to this in terms of ease of ocing?

I haven't touched a DFI since the Nf4 days. You can ask El<(')>Maxi about the DFI X48 DDR3 board, he played with one awhile back...as I recall it wasn't a fun experience ...but ask him

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08-17-08, 12:45 AM	#3
glock19owner Member Join Date: Nov 2002	Gotta go with RD on this one...the extreme...will let you know for sure in about 3 weeks when I get mine
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08-17-08, 12:48 AM	#4
rdrash Senior Member Benching Team Member Join Date: Aug 2003	lol glock...i'm waiting for my extreme to arrive as well __________________ Want to join the OCF Benchmarking Team? Click Here to find out how [HEATWARE:
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08-17-08, 01:04 AM	#6
rdrash Senior Member Benching Team Member Join Date: Aug 2003	I am heavily into overclocking...I found the P5E3P a real pain in the backside to overclock, ofcourse at the time there weren't many people with the same board... Ross had more success than I did on his P5E3P, but he's a super clocker and he generally can do better than most with a given piece of hardware. Specifically the P5E3P I had did not like extreme cold temperatures...iirc it would bug around -70c. Also I couldn't get my ram, QX9650, or a QX9770 to clock very well in that board (I have totally forgotten which BIOS I used) the BIOS updates may have fixed some of the issues by now. Basically, it was a tough board to get overclocked, change one setting and no boot or stalled boot or blue screen. That was my expereince with that board...I actually gave it away twice, the first person I gave it to returned it to me within a few weeks becuase he had headaches getting it to overclock as well. The second guy still has the board but he doesn't overclock so he's satisfied with it at stock. __________________ Want to join the OCF Benchmarking Team? Click Here to find out how [HEATWARE:
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08-17-08, 01:14 AM	Thread Starter #7
Beast53 Registered Join Date: Aug 2008	rampage it is then... heres my setup now http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/Pu...umber=12637387
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08-17-08, 01:32 AM	Thread Starter #8
Beast53 Registered Join Date: Aug 2008	it kind sucks that it doesn't have the onboard wifi like the p5e3p does though, but oh well. It's only $40 more so i might as well. couple questions though, with that heatsink(?) under the first pcie slot, would i be able to crossfire 4870x2's if i decide to do so? Also, I'm building the same system for my brother and i don't think he or I will be OC'ing his system. Would he be better of with the p5e3p or a different board? Last edited by Beast53; 08-17-08 at 01:38 AM.
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08-17-08, 02:13 AM	#9
glock19owner Member Join Date: Nov 2002	right away...if you plan on running quad-fire with 4870 X2's...you better rething your PSU... You better thinking more along the line of 1000w+...those X2's are some serious power hogs alone... Also...since you are going quad...if you plan on running high FSB...then you might want to rethink the MB also...you will have better OCing with a P45 board running a quad then you will with a X38/48 chipset board...the X38/48 chipset if physically limited to around 460 - 470...and as far as I know...there is no work around....the P45 boards can run 500+ all day long on quads...and since you plan on running dual X2's...you will never see the difference running 16x8 CF... The X38/48 boards are really setup for the dual cores...especially the 45nm...
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08-17-08, 02:24 AM	Thread Starter #10
Beast53 Registered Join Date: Aug 2008	I just changed my psu to a 1000w since it's got a package deal with the antec 1200 case i decided to go with. I definitely will not be crossfiring right now, but I just wanna be safe now in case i decide to do so in the future. As for the P45 boards, can you recommend me any? Thanks!
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08-17-08, 02:32 AM	#11
glock19owner Member Join Date: Nov 2002	ASUS P5Q3 DELUXE MSI P45 Diamond Two of the best P45's out...
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08-17-08, 02:42 AM	Thread Starter #12
Beast53 Registered Join Date: Aug 2008	Now that i think about it, would i be better of going dual core rather than quad core?
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08-17-08, 02:52 AM	#13
glock19owner Member Join Date: Nov 2002	Depends...what do you plan on using the system for? Pretty much gaming and surfing...yes, go dual core... If you plan on doing multi-tasking programs or any encoding/multi-media center workloads...then stay with the quad
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08-17-08, 03:13 AM	Thread Starter #14
Beast53 Registered Join Date: Aug 2008	Well I'll probably be playing games most of the time, but i also do some media stuff, video/photo editing, etc. I'm also hoping that this build will last for at least a couple of years with some minor upgrades along the way such as crossfiring. I also heard that games in the future will be utilizing quad cores, thats why i went with a quad Last edited by Beast53; 08-17-08 at 03:21 AM.
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08-17-08, 06:31 AM	#16
rdrash Senior Member Benching Team Member Join Date: Aug 2003	[QUOTE=Blazing fire;5760794]have you tried DFI before? How does it fair to this in terms of ease of ocing? I haven't touched a DFI since the Nf4 days. You can ask El<(')>Maxi about the DFI X48 DDR3 board, he played with one awhile back...as I recall it wasn't a fun experience ...but ask him __________________ Want to join the OCF Benchmarking Team? Click Here to find out how [HEATWARE:
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