Notices

Overclockers Forums > Hardware > Video Cards > General GPU
General GPU
Forum Jump

What card <=200$

Post Reply New Thread Subscribe Search this Thread
 
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-17-08, 03:19 AM Thread Starter   #1
repilce

 
repilce's Avatar 

Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: E600000 - E60000FF

10 Year Badge
 
What card <=200$


Okay.. my ultra got wounded by me like an idiot.. so i'm gonna need a new card.. need to keep it sub to 200$ range.. wanna buy new so i have a warrenty and possibly step up.. or whatever "phrase" applies to the company.


I mainly game.. i dont do a whole lot of DX10 stuff. but i want it to be suited to play most things at aleast 16x12 very well for now and hold up till next year or better..

I play (currently)

TF2, ETQW(demo right now but like alot..),WoW(in winter) and some other source stuff, and GRID.

let the flames begin

__________________

X5670 @ 3.6ghz / P6T Deluxe / 3 x 4GB Ripjaw 1333 c7 / HD6950

Black belt Ubercloxx0r My Heat
repilce is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 08-17-08, 03:30 AM   #2
Shiggity
Member

 
Shiggity's Avatar 

Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Chicago, IL

 
ATI HD4850

/end thread

__________________
CPU - E6750 @ 3.4GHz | 425x8 | 1.41V | Zalman CNPS9500 | Lapped
Mobo - Abit P35 Pro | Bios v14
Ram - 2x1GB G.Skill F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ | 850 | 5-5-5-15 | 1.85V
GPU - PNY 8800GT | 700c, 1850s, 900m | HR-03GT
HD - 150GB raptor ADFD | Seagate 7200.7 160GB | 2x WD 640GB
PSU - OCZ GameXSteam 700W

Shiggity is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 08-17-08, 08:20 AM   #3
dicko555
Member

 
dicko555's Avatar 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Queensland Australia

 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiggity View Post
ATI HD4850

/end thread
Have to agree with that. Looks by far the best value for around the $200 from what I have seen.

__________________
Building new system
If I can ever decide what to get
dicko555 is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 08-17-08, 11:26 AM   #4
micamica1217
Member

 
micamica1217's Avatar 

Join Date: Jun 2002

 
I could not disagree more with the two above replys....

first off, it looks like you have an SLI mobo.
it also looks like you have a water cooled rig.

with the less then optimal cooling from the 4850, and the fact that you might not have the best air cooled case, getting the 4850 seems like the worst choice sofar.
add on top of that, that you have an SLI mobo, adding an ATI card is a dead end upgrade path.

why not look at the 9800GTX+ cards from EVGA, BFG, and XFX?
at $179.00 after MIR, you'll have a card just as good as the 4850.
it has far better cooling on the card.
great performance as well.
let's also not forget that you can always go SLI with a second card at a later time.

EVGA, BFG, and XFX, also have the best warentys and step up programs for video cards...all the ATI distributers can't say that.

mica

__________________
Q6600 @ 3.0 (3.2 max OC), MSI P6N SLI plat, 4gigs corsair xms2, 2x 9800gtx KO in SLI, X-Fi XGamer, 2x Seagate Barracuda 250gb, Light-on 20x DVD, Thermaltake 750w PSU, air cooled with Ultama-90 and Antec 900 case....Soyo (24D6) 24" wide 14139 vantage

" Comparing the technical relevance of The Inquirer to Beyond3D is like comparing the technical prowess of Paris Hilton to John Carmack." -Albuquerque


[OCG] Fraging at it's finest.
micamica1217 is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 08-17-08, 11:32 AM   #5
necrokiller
Member

 
necrokiller's Avatar 

Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Toronto, Canada

 
+1 for the 9800GTX+ for your setup.

__________________
Processor | Intel C2D E8400 C0 @ 4GHz Xigmatek Dark Knight
Motherboard | eVGA 680i SLI
RAM | OCZ XTC Platinum 2x1GB DDR2 1066MHz PC-8500
Graphics | EVGA GTX 260 (192sp)
Storage | Western Digital 320GB SATA
Case - Power Supply |CM 690 - Corsair TX750
Operating System | Windows 7 (32-bit)
necrokiller is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 08-17-08, 12:56 PM   #6
bda1967
Member

 
bda1967's Avatar 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Ohio

 
+1 for the 9800GTX+ with his mobo setup.

__________________
i5 2500K @ 4.3GHz - Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 - 8GB DDR3-1600 G. Skill PC3-12800
Diamond HD 7970 - OCZ Agility 3 240 GB SSD / (2) 500GB HDD's storage - HAF X - Hyper 212 Plus
Fatality Pro X-FI - Cooler Master 850 watt psu - Windows 7 Ultimate 64
Athlon II X4 635 Propus @ 3.6GHz - MA770T-UD3P - 4GB G. Skill DDR3-1600 PC3-12800
Sapphire HD 4870 - 320 GB HDD - Modified HP case - Nirvana NV120
BFG GS 550 watt psu - Windows 7 Ultimate 64
FX-4100 @ 4.2GHz - Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 - 8GB Kingston DDR3 1600
XFX HD6870 - 320 GB HDD - Antec 900 - Hyper 212 Plus
Corsair CX500 - Windows 7 Pro 64
bda1967 is offline Heatware Profile   QUOTE Thanks
Old 08-17-08, 02:44 PM   #7
moocow

 
moocow's Avatar 

Join Date: May 2003
Location: Texas State

 
If you want two cards. Get a Diamond 4850. They have xDNA which allows them to run xfire on a SLI motherboard.

__________________
YAY HWBOT!
[heatware]
moocow is offline Benching Profile Heatware Profile   QUOTE Thanks
Old 08-17-08, 02:48 PM   #8
Audioaficionado
Super Moderator

 
Audioaficionado's Avatar 

Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Medford, Orygun

10 Year Badge
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by micamica1217 View Post
I could not disagree more with the two above replys....

first off, it looks like you have an SLI mobo.
it also looks like you have a water cooled rig.

with the less then optimal cooling from the 4850, and the fact that you might not have the best air cooled case, getting the 4850 seems like the worst choice sofar.
add on top of that, that you have an SLI mobo, adding an ATI card is a dead end upgrade path.

why not look at the 9800GTX+ cards from EVGA, BFG, and XFX?
at $179.00 after MIR, you'll have a card just as good as the 4850.
it has far better cooling on the card.
great performance as well.
let's also not forget that you can always go SLI with a second card at a later time.

EVGA, BFG, and XFX, also have the best warentys and step up programs for video cards...all the ATI distributers can't say that.

mica
Quote:
Originally Posted by necrokiller View Post
+1 for the 9800GTX+ for your setup.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bda1967 View Post
+1 for the 9800GTX+ with his mobo setup.
+4 for EVGA 9800GTX+

__________________
.....................................My HeatwareMyFAH Stats
.......................Folding is a marathon, not a sprint © audioaficionado
Asus Commando, 8GB GSkill 5-5-5-15-2t PC6400, Q6600 @3.0GHz >SMP2+GPU3 FAH 24/7
Gigabyte DS3, 3GB GSkill 5-5-5-15-2t PC6400, E6400 @3.0GHz
Asus P5Q PRO Turbo, 4GB GSkill 5-5-5-15-2t PC6400, E6600 @3.0GHz
Iwill DH800, 2GB OCZ4002048PFDC-K 2.5-3-3-8-1t, Dual 2.4 M0 Xeons 1.5v/880/3300
Help improve overclockers.com! Get involved!

You have over 101 posts and Can't see the classifieds???Click This Link
Anyone we catch cookie stuffing at this site will be banned on the spot!!
Audioaficionado is offline Folding Profile Heatware Profile   QUOTE Thanks
Old 08-17-08, 03:00 PM   #9
glock19owner
Member

 
glock19owner's Avatar 

Join Date: Nov 2002

 
I am going to be the black sheep

I vote to check around and find a good 3870 X2...I was able to buy one for less the 200.00 last month and with the 4870 X2's out...the 3870 X2's will be dropping...

For around 300.00 you could easily find a 3870 X2 and a 3870 and run them in tri-fire...which will stomp any 4850 CF...
glock19owner is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 08-17-08, 03:03 PM   #10
HousERaT
Senior Air Extraordinaire

 
HousERaT's Avatar 

Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Imladris

 
4850, especially if you like all the eye candy.

__________________
CM-690 | Maximus Formula | Ballistix D9GMH 2GB - 4-4-4-10 - 2.2v (active cooled) | E6850 @4GHz (L719B) 602 Bios 500x8 - 1.475v | Ultra 120 Extreme | 2x HD3870 840/1300 | Lite-On 52327s CDRW | WD 74GB - Raptor HDD | Corsair 620HX PSU | Windows XP Pro sp2 |

Support the OC Benchmarking Team The HD 4870/50 Thread The HD 3870/50 Thread The X1900XT/XTX Thread X800GTO˛ Thread Heatware

Make friends with your "FAST" - 90K 01SE - 77K 03 - 29K 05 - 19K 06 - 274K AM3 - single card all air baby!
HousERaT is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 08-17-08, 03:24 PM Thread Starter   #11
repilce

 
repilce's Avatar 

Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: E600000 - E60000FF

10 Year Badge
 
well something to consider.. i'm get'n different ram/mobo/proc and vid
not set on sli/xfire.. sellin mobo/ram/proc and WC setup for either nice core 2 or nilla quad setup..

__________________

X5670 @ 3.6ghz / P6T Deluxe / 3 x 4GB Ripjaw 1333 c7 / HD6950

Black belt Ubercloxx0r My Heat
repilce is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 08-17-08, 03:28 PM   #12
glock19owner
Member

 
glock19owner's Avatar 

Join Date: Nov 2002

 
3870 X2 would be just perfect for your new setup then ...
glock19owner is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 08-17-08, 03:34 PM   #13
micamica1217
Member

 
micamica1217's Avatar 

Join Date: Jun 2002

 
Quote:
Originally Posted by moocow View Post
If you want two cards. Get a Diamond 4850. They have xDNA which allows them to run xfire on a SLI motherboard.
big question.....WHY?

mica

__________________
Q6600 @ 3.0 (3.2 max OC), MSI P6N SLI plat, 4gigs corsair xms2, 2x 9800gtx KO in SLI, X-Fi XGamer, 2x Seagate Barracuda 250gb, Light-on 20x DVD, Thermaltake 750w PSU, air cooled with Ultama-90 and Antec 900 case....Soyo (24D6) 24" wide 14139 vantage

" Comparing the technical relevance of The Inquirer to Beyond3D is like comparing the technical prowess of Paris Hilton to John Carmack." -Albuquerque


[OCG] Fraging at it's finest.
micamica1217 is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 08-17-08, 06:03 PM   #14
IWasHungry
Member

 
IWasHungry's Avatar 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Seattle, WA

 
Since you said you wanted a good card distributor with good warranties, etc, your best choices are either a BFG 9800GTX+ or a Visiontek 4850. The 9800GTX+ is probably the better choice if you plan on going the multi-GPU route in the future and because you get the 100 day step-up, whereas the 4850 is better if you just want a single card and stick with it for a while.

Quote:
Originally Posted by moocow View Post
If you want two cards. Get a Diamond 4850. They have xDNA which allows them to run xfire on a SLI motherboard.
That has never been confirmed unless you can point us somewhere where it has been proven to work.

Quote:
Originally Posted by micamica1217 View Post
big question.....WHY?
If it did work, why not? Stop being a blatant Nvidia fanboy.

Last edited by IWasHungry; 08-17-08 at 06:31 PM.
IWasHungry is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 08-17-08, 06:42 PM Thread Starter   #15
repilce

 
repilce's Avatar 

Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: E600000 - E60000FF

10 Year Badge
 
Well, so far i'm looking at either an E7200 or e8500 i'm thinking (depending on new or classies ), and a p45 chipset.. not sure which board.. the 4850's came in packing nice performance, real nice for the $ and only going to go down.. like i said.. currently i game at 16x12, it will be next year before i get a wide screen.. so for now with what i play currently and with power consumption (starting to look @ that more since broke 500+W usage at wall with x2 windsor and 8800ultra) i think the 4850 is a good choice..

The only thing i'm wondering is how negligible the impact would be of going crossfire later with 8x8 setup vs the 16x16 of the x48's

__________________

X5670 @ 3.6ghz / P6T Deluxe / 3 x 4GB Ripjaw 1333 c7 / HD6950

Black belt Ubercloxx0r My Heat
repilce is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 08-17-08, 07:07 PM   #16
dicko555
Member

 
dicko555's Avatar 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Queensland Australia

 
IWasHungry It is nice to have your non biased opinion here. I think i have to agree with your logic.
I have been an NVidea user ever since i can remember and am only just about to get my first ATI card as i think $ FOR $ they are the way to go at the moment.

__________________
Building new system
If I can ever decide what to get
dicko555 is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 08-18-08, 12:01 AM   #17
IWasHungry
Member

 
IWasHungry's Avatar 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Seattle, WA

 
Quote:
Originally Posted by repilce View Post
The only thing i'm wondering is how negligible the impact would be of going crossfire later with 8x8 setup vs the 16x16 of the x48's
Brollocks made a good thread comparing chipsets: http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=571156
In summary, 8x is good enough for current Crossfire cards, so P45 is sufficient.
IWasHungry is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 08-18-08, 12:51 AM   #18
Essenar
Member

 
Essenar's Avatar 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: San Diego, CA

 
I'm going to make things fundamentally harder for you and I'm going to suggest you consider this decision DEEPLY:

I just got a 4850, and I can tell you a few things:
First, I love it. It's a great card, the frame-rates are great and I love being on ATI ship again. You have no idea. The last time I had an ATI card was an X800GTO2 softmodded to X850XT. That's a long time ago haha.

My gripes: The stock cooler is not only crap, but when you increase fan speed, it's loud as hell. The temps are fine and the card over-clocks really well, but the fan loudness sucks.

With a 9800GTX, you get a dual slot cooler and you don't have to create custom profiles for it to work.

Bad thing about the 9800GTX though is that it requires two PCI-Express connectors and it doesn't over-clock as well.

It's also about $30 more (To get a good brand. Zotac is not a very good brand compared to EVGA)

With that price difference you could easily get either an Akasa Vortexx like me, an Accelero S1 with a Yate Loon fan or a Thermaltake Duorb which will alleviate the cooling issues. They're supposedly better coolers than the stock 9800GTX cooler too.

I say, give it some thought. The 4850 can be a monster if you dedicate time to it. (Upgrade cooler, over-clock it and it'll compete with a GTX260)

The 9800GTX out of the box is a simpler and competitive solution. No custom profiles, just over-clock and be done with it. It just won't get AS fast.
Essenar is offline   QUOTE Thanks
Old 08-18-08, 07:03 AM   #19
jokers_greg
Member

 
jokers_greg's Avatar 

Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Mississauga, Ontario

 
Quote:
Originally Posted by micamica1217 View Post
I could not disagree more with the two above replys....

first off, it looks like you have an SLI mobo.
it also looks like you have a water cooled rig.

with the less then optimal cooling from the 4850, and the fact that you might not have the best air cooled case, getting the 4850 seems like the worst choice sofar.
add on top of that, that you have an SLI mobo, adding an ATI card is a dead end upgrade path.

why not look at the 9800GTX+ cards from EVGA, BFG, and XFX?
at $179.00 after MIR, you'll have a card just as good as the 4850.
it has far better cooling on the card.
great performance as well.
let's also not forget that you can always go SLI with a second card at a later time.

EVGA, BFG, and XFX, also have the best warentys and step up programs for video cards...all the ATI distributers can't say that.

mica
as a huge 4850 fan, I have to agree with these statements. In your case the GTX+ would be the best option, since you can get a 2nd in the future. Unless you move to a P or X chipset mobo, you're better off just staying with nvidia. The GTX+ is a great card.

Unless you love running games with lots of AA, you may want to consider a new motherboard too. The 4xxx series of ATi cards does extremely well with eyecandy like AA/AF cranked up.

@ guy with xDNA..Why would you run a couple of 4850s on an SLI board.... lol

__________________
Primary
3570k @4.6 turbo, P8Z77-V PRO ,
6970 , Corsair Vengeance 4x4GB 1600
Vertex 4 120GB, 1x 250GB Seagate
LG HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B
,
HX 850W , NZXT Switch 810

My OLD WC Project Log
My Heat
jokers_greg is offline Author Profile Heatware Profile   QUOTE Thanks
Old 08-18-08, 07:08 AM   #20
jokers_greg
Member

 
jokers_greg's Avatar 

Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Mississauga, Ontario

 
Quote:
Originally Posted by IWasHungry View Post
If it did work, why not? Stop being a blatant Nvidia fanboy.
No but really.. how does that make sense? If you have an nvidia board, and can get the GTX+'s which are just as good as the 4850's, why would you use xDNA? I just don't see how that makes sense. IF you wanna run Xfire, just go to an xfire chipset, but if you really want to just go dual GPUs... might as well run the technology that your motherboard is built for. And I'm sure many of you know, this isn't coming from a fanboy.

__________________
Primary
3570k @4.6 turbo, P8Z77-V PRO ,
6970 , Corsair Vengeance 4x4GB 1600
Vertex 4 120GB, 1x 250GB Seagate
LG HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B
,
HX 850W , NZXT Switch 810

My OLD WC Project Log
My Heat
jokers_greg is offline Author Profile Heatware Profile   QUOTE Thanks

Post Reply New Thread Subscribe


Overclockers Forums > Hardware > Video Cards > General GPU
General GPU
Forum Jump

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Mobile Skin
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:25 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
You can add these icons by updating your profile information to include your Heatware ID, Benching Profile ID or your Folding/SETI profile ID. Edit your profile!
X

Welcome to Overclockers.com

Create your username to jump into the discussion!

New members like you have made this the best community on the Internet since 1998!


(4 digit year)

Why Join Us?

  • Share experience
  • Max out your hardware
  • Best forum members anywhere
  • Customized forum experience

Already a member?