E4300 C2D with IHS Removed: Massive Improvements (56K Warning)

bryan_d · 08-30-08, 10:11 PM

Greetings all,

I had my E4300 running at 3GHz with stock voltage, but temperatures reached 72C with my RevA Ninja with a Scythe fan. I had an extra Sunbeam 775 Silent Whisper in the closet, and thought I would get adventurous...

Already tried lapping it...

CD-rom screws, new blade, foam from old SLK-800

Protecting the pads...

Cutterization commencified...

Do not be fooled, there was no "true" DIE to IHS contact...

Hoping the DIE was not dead...

Foam for pressure, and protection...

Lapped the Sunbeams base

CD-Rom screws to secured to Thermal Right backplate...

It was pretty nerve racking, especially when first cutting into the rubbery material, but all went as smooth as my other "shim" removals (X800GTO2 and Sempy 2600+).

I have this now running passive, and reaching a maximum temperature of 60C! That is a 12C drop.

I still need to devise a means of securing my 92mm FSP fan to the Sunbeam.

For a passive 12 dollar cooler, I simply cannot complain. The Sunbeam is the same as the AC7Pro, and I chose to use it over the Ninja for peace of mind.

Thanks for looking all,

bryan d

PS - Sunbeam was purchased last year with rebate deal.

Evilsizer · 08-30-08, 10:31 PM

NICE!!!

bryan_d · 08-30-08, 10:42 PM

Thanks Evilsizer,

I had the itch to risk destroying something, after being denied from two critical classes towards my major.

I figured, I either pull it off and get some nice temps, or I kill it and buy a quad. Lucky for wallet, it went smooth.

Funny thing is, I was too lazy to grab the AC5 or ICD7 in the attic, so temps could be better than what the Cermique is delivering...

Thanks again,

bryan d

PS - Did you notice that the blade is only 25 cents? That's right... your E7200 is begging to get the same treatment as your avatar...

Evilsizer · 08-30-08, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryan_d

Thanks Evilsizer,

PS - Did you notice that the blade is only 25 cents? That's right... your E7200 is begging to get the same treatment as your avatar...

you saying i should cut my avy out? NEVAR!! 3DFX 4 life! hahha, to bad i cant SLI some PCI 5500's, that would be epic for the forums wars. o wait i got my atom box, i could bench with that...hmm this might be fun!

bryan_d · 08-30-08, 10:55 PM

No no no,

I guess the comment would have been more effective if the subject in your avatar was in fact fully nude...

UPDATE:

5 mins with a food magazine:

58C fully loaded with Small FFT's.

I wonder what my load temps will be when winter rolls along...

bryan d

PS - Not advertising for said web page printed on poor-person CPU duct.

Evilsizer · 08-30-08, 11:05 PM

lol that NB cooler looks familar, not tring to highjack but check this out.

58c for passive isnt bad at all IMO.

bryan_d · 08-30-08, 11:09 PM

I bet some 4-40 screws can net you 55C.

Evilsizer · 08-30-08, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bryan_d

I bet some 4-40 screws can net you 55C.

umm i was saying your temps werent bad... actually while the HS is warm, GPUz says it never gets over 52-54. i might be off but i need to double check, all that pc does is just 2D no 3D at all.

nd4spdbh2 · 08-31-08, 12:18 AM

NO BEN... the E4300 in your htpc is just fine temp wise!... NO NO DEIHSing *smacks himself*

i think ima leave it as is... nicely lapped, thought about doing the IHS but really dont want to mess with my mobos retention bracket. as well as having to make a nice bolt through mounting system for my zalman 9700...

bryan_d · 08-31-08, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Evilsizer

umm i was saying your temps werent bad... actually while the HS is warm, GPUz says it never gets over 52-54. i might be off but i need to double check, all that pc does is just 2D no 3D at all.

Whoops, I thought you were still thread jacking.

I am still surprised of how limiting the IHS truly was... and to believe I knocked off roughly 5C when I lapped it too!

Quote:

Originally Posted by nd4spdbh2

NO BEN... the E4300 in your htpc is just fine temp wise!... NO NO DEIHSing *smacks himself*

i think ima leave it as is... nicely lapped, thought about doing the IHS but really dont want to mess with my mobos retention bracket. as well as having to make a nice bolt through mounting system for my zalman 9700...

You know that with your horizontal HTPC setup, you run minimal risk to your BARE CPU die, because gravity is working for you.

And the retention bracket came off in one 0.5 second pull, just to let you know; no harm is done when removing the retention module:

Easy as... removing a retention bracket

C'mon...

Bryan d

BossBorot · 08-31-08, 01:45 AM

That last pic is an instant classic

EmAn · 08-31-08, 09:39 AM

All these people removing their IHS's lately makes mine want to join the nudist colony as well and mate full force with my TT120...

nd4spdbh2 · 08-31-08, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryan_d

Whoops, I thought you were still thread jacking.

I am still surprised of how limiting the IHS truly was... and to believe I knocked off roughly 5C when I lapped it too!

You know that with your horizontal HTPC setup, you run minimal risk to your BARE CPU die, because gravity is working for you.

And the retention bracket came off in one 0.5 second pull, just to let you know; no harm is done when removing the retention module:

Easy as... removing a retention bracket

C'mon...

Bryan d

eh my htpc is in a standard upright case i wouldnt have a problem cracking the core... i have had 3 p4's that i have poped the top on and never had problems... its just i couldnt risk it on my awesome e4300... stock = 1.8ghz @ 1.325v... it likes it at 3ghz @ 1.250v... udervolted ocd!

Brando · 08-31-08, 02:03 PM

I could have sworn I saw somebody selling cpu shims just for this purpose. Basically a metal border to go around the core, the same height as the core, so the heatsink is held steady and won't push down too hard. You've got my gears spinning.....

EDIT: Damn nevermind they're all for old AMD cpus. I wonder if some kind soul would take measurements and have some made in bulk to sell them for a dollar mailed in envelopes for 35 cents?

....

Clockwork_Apple · 08-31-08, 02:13 PM

So tempted to do this my E4400... damn you!

Mr.Guvernment · 08-31-08, 03:48 PM

i got an e4400 here too

allendale based so most i get safe vcore is 3Ghz.

bryan_d · 09-01-08, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brando

I wonder if some kind soul would take measurements and have some made in bulk to sell them for a dollar mailed in envelopes for 35 cents?

....

The old AMD black pads should work for the purpose. Basically I use the pads for when I am aligning the HSF, because that is when most trouble occurs from my experience. Once it is on, I crank the screws down so tight that the arms are actually bending; straight pressure should not harm the die, it is only when you start apply pressure that is not perpindicular to the die's face that problems arise.

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Originally Posted by Clockwork_Apple and Mr.Guvernment

... E4400...

If you have a HSF with a small foot print, and are in need of lower temperatures, then go for it!

bryan d

08-30-08, 10:11 PM	Thread Starter #1
bryan_d Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA	E4300 C2D with IHS Removed: Massive Improvements (56K Warning) Greetings all, I had my E4300 running at 3GHz with stock voltage, but temperatures reached 72C with my RevA Ninja with a Scythe fan. I had an extra Sunbeam 775 Silent Whisper in the closet, and thought I would get adventurous... Already tried lapping it... CD-rom screws, new blade, foam from old SLK-800 Protecting the pads... Cutterization commencified... Do not be fooled, there was no "true" DIE to IHS contact... Hoping the DIE was not dead... Foam for pressure, and protection... Lapped the Sunbeams base CD-Rom screws to secured to Thermal Right backplate... It was pretty nerve racking, especially when first cutting into the rubbery material, but all went as smooth as my other "shim" removals (X800GTO2 and Sempy 2600+). I have this now running passive, and reaching a maximum temperature of 60C! That is a 12C drop. I still need to devise a means of securing my 92mm FSP fan to the Sunbeam. For a passive 12 dollar cooler, I simply cannot complain. The Sunbeam is the same as the AC7Pro, and I chose to use it over the Ninja for peace of mind. Thanks for looking all, bryan d PS - Sunbeam was purchased last year with rebate deal. __________________ Warning: Ethyl Glycol Can Kill! G73JH SSD FirePro Mod Dell XPS Studio 435 MT Xeon W3520, 6GB Triple Channel, FX 3500, SSD Heatware
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08-30-08, 10:42 PM	Thread Starter #3
bryan_d Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA	Thanks Evilsizer, I had the itch to risk destroying something, after being denied from two critical classes towards my major. I figured, I either pull it off and get some nice temps, or I kill it and buy a quad. Lucky for wallet, it went smooth. Funny thing is, I was too lazy to grab the AC5 or ICD7 in the attic, so temps could be better than what the Cermique is delivering... Thanks again, bryan d PS - Did you notice that the blade is only 25 cents? That's right... your E7200 is begging to get the same treatment as your avatar... __________________ Warning: Ethyl Glycol Can Kill! G73JH SSD FirePro Mod Dell XPS Studio 435 MT Xeon W3520, 6GB Triple Channel, FX 3500, SSD Heatware
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08-30-08, 10:55 PM	Thread Starter #5
bryan_d Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA	No no no, I guess the comment would have been more effective if the subject in your avatar was in fact fully nude... UPDATE: 5 mins with a food magazine: 58C fully loaded with Small FFT's. I wonder what my load temps will be when winter rolls along... bryan d PS - Not advertising for said web page printed on poor-person CPU duct. __________________ Warning: Ethyl Glycol Can Kill! G73JH SSD FirePro Mod Dell XPS Studio 435 MT Xeon W3520, 6GB Triple Channel, FX 3500, SSD Heatware Last edited by bryan_d; 08-30-08 at 10:57 PM. Reason: Just clearing some things up...
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08-30-08, 11:05 PM	#6
Evilsizer Senior Fourm Spammer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Austin,Texas	lol that NB cooler looks familar, not tring to highjack but check this out. 58c for passive isnt bad at all IMO. __________________ i7 920@3.6ghz \| Asus R2G \| GK F3-12800CL7D-4GBRH \| Galaxy GTX660 GC \| C650TX \| OCZ VERTEX EX 120GB, VERTEX 250GB i3 330m \| Jetway NF98 \| 2x2gig DDR3-1066 \| pico 120WI i5 2450 \| Jetway JNF9G-QM77 \| 2x2gig DDR3-1333 \| WIP "I Love To Camp!" "Commensing Shock Therapy!" I'm jonnyGURU of jonnyGURU.com and we don't overload PSU's - JonnyGURU HeatWare
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08-30-08, 11:09 PM	Thread Starter #7
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08-31-08, 12:18 AM	#9
nd4spdbh2 Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Camarillo, CA!	NO BEN... the E4300 in your htpc is just fine temp wise!... NO NO DEIHSing smacks himself i think ima leave it as is... nicely lapped, thought about doing the IHS but really dont want to mess with my mobos retention bracket. as well as having to make a nice bolt through mounting system for my zalman 9700... __________________ #12 in the 4ghz core 2 duo club baby! - 52 inches of CRYSIS! - Black Belt Ubercloxx0r -- Heatware Main -- Lian Li V2000b -- i7 2700k -- MSI Z68A-GD80 -- 12gb 1600 -- GTX560Ti --Adata 128gb S510 & 2x500gb -- Seasonic S12 600w -- Dell 2209WA HTPC -- Silverstone GD05B -- E7200 @ 3.2ghz -- G41-M7 -- 4GB 800mhz -- g210 passive -- 320gb 2.5in WD -- Antec EA 430w -- 52inch Samsung LCD Server -- Antec NSK4480B -- E3300 @ 2.5ghz -- ECS G33T-M2 -- 3gb 667mhz -- Onboard Vid -- 500Gb + 1TB hatachi + 1tb WD -- Zalman 400w Netbook - Dell Mini 9 - Atom 1.6ghz - 8GB ssd - 2GB pc6400 - WIN 7 PRO! Need 4 Speed - BH
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Brando Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brandonia	I could have sworn I saw somebody selling cpu shims just for this purpose. Basically a metal border to go around the core, the same height as the core, so the heatsink is held steady and won't push down too hard. You've got my gears spinning..... EDIT: Damn nevermind they're all for old AMD cpus. I wonder if some kind soul would take measurements and have some made in bulk to sell them for a dollar mailed in envelopes for 35 cents? .... __________________ []Intel 3570k 4.4ghz~Asus P8Z77-V pro~Megahalems[]Mushkin Blackline 2x4gb[]Gtx 670 direct cu II[]Dell U2410[]Plextor M3 pro 256gb~Spinpoint F3 1tb[]Pioneer BDR-206[]Corsair AX850[]Lian Li PC-V1020A[]Leopold tenkeyless~Deathadder[]Harman Kardon HK3490~Denon AH-D7000[] HEAT: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=48093 Last edited by Brando; 08-31-08 at 02:12 PM.
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