Having troube getting over 4ghz.

LMFRY · 10-09-08, 04:21 PM

Im having a heck of a time getting stable over 4.0ghz with a e8400/p5q-deluxe and a Thermalright ultra 120(non-extreme). My load temps are about 8C different between cores but the hot core never goes over 54C. Im running 1.3125V on the cpu. Ram is 1:1 with fsb which is 445x9. Any ideas how i can get over the 4ghz barrier?

Landsharkk · 10-09-08, 05:11 PM

Being a noob myself I'd say you need to bump up the vcore, but nothing over 1.45.

Hopefully someone will chime in with more exact ideas.

doz · 10-09-08, 06:00 PM

Raise the Northbridge a bit. Do you have a C0 or E0 chip? If C0, you may need a bit more voltage. If E0, probably just need some more NB voltage.

Also be sure to have your VDimm @ the correct volts (the board will auto it to 1.8v).

LMFRY · 10-09-08, 10:13 PM

What is a good voltage to set NB at. I have it at 1.4 right now...The reason for this thread is that I took a break from intel to try phenom...and well...that didnt work out so well lol. But I couldnt ever find a set voltage limit, i heard MANY different things for the e8400 and i dont want to fry my chip in 3 months.

prime81 · 10-09-08, 10:17 PM

NB Volts should be 1.35ish on the p5q

LMFRY · 10-09-08, 10:19 PM

so that would be the max i should have to use?

doz · 10-09-08, 11:16 PM

I said something in another thread about lowering it, didtn realize when I posted earlier you are already at 1.4v NB.

Thats a bit high, so its probably not the NB causing you issues. Do you have a C0 or E0 chip? I lowered my voltages and dropped my overclock a bit. It took me .05 extra just to hit 100 mhz more (512x8 @ 1.38, running 445x9 @ 1.33 now) with my C0 chip. 512 FSB I was using 1.34v for the NB, 445 FSB im using 1.3.

Maximum voltage Intel specifies is 1.368 I believe for these chips. Beyond that it degrades, however little proof is out there showing that 1.4-1.45v SERIOUSLY degrades the chip. Above 1.45v is generally trouble.

Did you set the Ram voltage? That may be part of the problem if its defaulting to 1.8v. Just up the Vcore on that and go for it. I havent gotten stable past 4.25 ghz and it took me over 1.4v to get there, so I dont run it 24/7.

LMFRY · 10-09-08, 11:22 PM

rams at 2.1v which i know it will do at least 950 at that voltage which im running at 930 something right now as i just got it to do 4.2ghz, but it took 1.375 to do it. Im gonna have to reseat my hsf because i got one core getting a bit toasty running sp2004.

don'tknow · 10-10-08, 01:50 AM

Load temps being 8C different between cores is bad temp readings...what are you using to check temps? Try RealTemp or CoreTemp for more accuracy.

thideras · 10-10-08, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by don'tknow

Load temps being 8C different between cores is bad temp readings

Not necessarily, I've had CPU's read quite different temperatures.

OP: This is the second P5Q-Deluxe that I've owned. Both were able to do 580fsb with everything on stock volts (except the CPU; everything on air). Try this, drop your multi to 6 and raise the FSB; is it stable? If so, you need more vCore to run it faster than 4ghz.

LMFRY · 10-10-08, 07:58 AM

thanks thideras, that really clears a lot of things up for me. Lol i had no idea what to do on this board, there are too many things set to auto.

EDIT: Did what you said thideras, and i could get to 480 or so before my ram tryed to poop out, so now it looks like i need a ram upgrade.

thideras · 10-10-08, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by LMFRY

thanks thideras, that really clears a lot of things up for me. Lol i had no idea what to do on this board, there are too many things set to auto.

EDIT: Did what you said thideras, and i could get to 480 or so before my ram tryed to poop out, so now it looks like i need a ram upgrade.

There you go!

What ram do you have, just curious?

LMFRY · 10-10-08, 12:07 PM

im running 2x2gb ocz upgrade edition. Any suggestions on some good ram? I def want to get more than 4ghz out of it cause my 3dmark06 went up about 1500 points going from 4 to 4.2ghz. LOL i want to break 20k, right now at 19335.

thideras · 10-10-08, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LMFRY

im running 2x2gb ocz upgrade edition. Any suggestions on some good ram? I def want to get more than 4ghz out of it cause my 3dmark06 went up about 1500 points going from 4 to 4.2ghz. LOL i want to break 20k, right now at 19335.

I have owned 4 sets (2 sets now) of the Gskill 1000mhz 2x2gb kit. Can't say anything bad about them

LMFRY · 10-10-08, 12:42 PM

I may have to pick some of that up. How high will they run?

thideras · 10-10-08, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by LMFRY

I may have to pick some of that up. How high will they run?

Never really ran them over stock, but they should do 1066 fairly easy. That would mean you are limited to 533 fsb

LMFRY · 10-10-08, 02:38 PM

Will definately have to try it. I had g.skill on my last c2d system and it was really good stuff.

10-09-08, 04:21 PM	Thread Starter #1
LMFRY Member Join Date: Nov 2004	Having troube getting over 4ghz. Im having a heck of a time getting stable over 4.0ghz with a e8400/p5q-deluxe and a Thermalright ultra 120(non-extreme). My load temps are about 8C different between cores but the hot core never goes over 54C. Im running 1.3125V on the cpu. Ram is 1:1 with fsb which is 445x9. Any ideas how i can get over the 4ghz barrier? __________________ Asus P5Q-D E8400@4.0ghz 4gb ddr2-800 400gb WD HD 500gb Seagate 2xVisiontek HD4850 @ 690/1123- 19k 3DMK06 Corsair hx620 psu 20x DVD-RW 2x yate loons 120mm high speed 2x tricool 120mm tricool 140mm Antec 300 Case
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10-09-08, 05:11 PM	#2
Landsharkk New Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Washington State	Being a noob myself I'd say you need to bump up the vcore, but nothing over 1.45. Hopefully someone will chime in with more exact ideas.
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10-09-08, 06:00 PM	#3
doz Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV	Raise the Northbridge a bit. Do you have a C0 or E0 chip? If C0, you may need a bit more voltage. If E0, probably just need some more NB voltage. Also be sure to have your VDimm @ the correct volts (the board will auto it to 1.8v). __________________ Asus P8P67 Intel i7-2600k @ 4.9ghz GSkill Ripjaws 8gb 1600mhz c8 EVGA GTX 680 OCZ Agility 2 240gb, Corsair Force 3 180gb, (2)WD 1tb Black HAF 932w/ Corsair HX750 Heat
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10-09-08, 10:13 PM	Thread Starter #4
LMFRY Member Join Date: Nov 2004	What is a good voltage to set NB at. I have it at 1.4 right now...The reason for this thread is that I took a break from intel to try phenom...and well...that didnt work out so well lol. But I couldnt ever find a set voltage limit, i heard MANY different things for the e8400 and i dont want to fry my chip in 3 months. __________________ Asus P5Q-D E8400@4.0ghz 4gb ddr2-800 400gb WD HD 500gb Seagate 2xVisiontek HD4850 @ 690/1123- 19k 3DMK06 Corsair hx620 psu 20x DVD-RW 2x yate loons 120mm high speed 2x tricool 120mm tricool 140mm Antec 300 Case
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10-09-08, 10:17 PM	#5
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10-09-08, 10:19 PM	Thread Starter #6
LMFRY Member Join Date: Nov 2004	so that would be the max i should have to use? __________________ Asus P5Q-D E8400@4.0ghz 4gb ddr2-800 400gb WD HD 500gb Seagate 2xVisiontek HD4850 @ 690/1123- 19k 3DMK06 Corsair hx620 psu 20x DVD-RW 2x yate loons 120mm high speed 2x tricool 120mm tricool 140mm Antec 300 Case
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10-09-08, 11:16 PM	#7
doz Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV	I said something in another thread about lowering it, didtn realize when I posted earlier you are already at 1.4v NB. Thats a bit high, so its probably not the NB causing you issues. Do you have a C0 or E0 chip? I lowered my voltages and dropped my overclock a bit. It took me .05 extra just to hit 100 mhz more (512x8 @ 1.38, running 445x9 @ 1.33 now) with my C0 chip. 512 FSB I was using 1.34v for the NB, 445 FSB im using 1.3. Maximum voltage Intel specifies is 1.368 I believe for these chips. Beyond that it degrades, however little proof is out there showing that 1.4-1.45v SERIOUSLY degrades the chip. Above 1.45v is generally trouble. Did you set the Ram voltage? That may be part of the problem if its defaulting to 1.8v. Just up the Vcore on that and go for it. I havent gotten stable past 4.25 ghz and it took me over 1.4v to get there, so I dont run it 24/7. __________________ Asus P8P67 Intel i7-2600k @ 4.9ghz GSkill Ripjaws 8gb 1600mhz c8 EVGA GTX 680 OCZ Agility 2 240gb, Corsair Force 3 180gb, (2)WD 1tb Black HAF 932w/ Corsair HX750 Heat
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10-09-08, 11:22 PM	Thread Starter #8
LMFRY Member Join Date: Nov 2004	rams at 2.1v which i know it will do at least 950 at that voltage which im running at 930 something right now as i just got it to do 4.2ghz, but it took 1.375 to do it. Im gonna have to reseat my hsf because i got one core getting a bit toasty running sp2004. __________________ Asus P5Q-D E8400@4.0ghz 4gb ddr2-800 400gb WD HD 500gb Seagate 2xVisiontek HD4850 @ 690/1123- 19k 3DMK06 Corsair hx620 psu 20x DVD-RW 2x yate loons 120mm high speed 2x tricool 120mm tricool 140mm Antec 300 Case
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10-10-08, 01:50 AM	#9
don'tknow Member Join Date: Sep 2008	Load temps being 8C different between cores is bad temp readings...what are you using to check temps? Try RealTemp or CoreTemp for more accuracy.
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10-10-08, 07:58 AM	Thread Starter #11
LMFRY Member Join Date: Nov 2004	thanks thideras, that really clears a lot of things up for me. Lol i had no idea what to do on this board, there are too many things set to auto. EDIT: Did what you said thideras, and i could get to 480 or so before my ram tryed to poop out, so now it looks like i need a ram upgrade. __________________ Asus P5Q-D E8400@4.0ghz 4gb ddr2-800 400gb WD HD 500gb Seagate 2xVisiontek HD4850 @ 690/1123- 19k 3DMK06 Corsair hx620 psu 20x DVD-RW 2x yate loons 120mm high speed 2x tricool 120mm tricool 140mm Antec 300 Case Last edited by LMFRY; 10-10-08 at 08:07 AM.
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10-10-08, 12:07 PM	Thread Starter #13
LMFRY Member Join Date: Nov 2004	im running 2x2gb ocz upgrade edition. Any suggestions on some good ram? I def want to get more than 4ghz out of it cause my 3dmark06 went up about 1500 points going from 4 to 4.2ghz. LOL i want to break 20k, right now at 19335. __________________ Asus P5Q-D E8400@4.0ghz 4gb ddr2-800 400gb WD HD 500gb Seagate 2xVisiontek HD4850 @ 690/1123- 19k 3DMK06 Corsair hx620 psu 20x DVD-RW 2x yate loons 120mm high speed 2x tricool 120mm tricool 140mm Antec 300 Case
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10-10-08, 12:42 PM	Thread Starter #15
LMFRY Member Join Date: Nov 2004	I may have to pick some of that up. How high will they run? __________________ Asus P5Q-D E8400@4.0ghz 4gb ddr2-800 400gb WD HD 500gb Seagate 2xVisiontek HD4850 @ 690/1123- 19k 3DMK06 Corsair hx620 psu 20x DVD-RW 2x yate loons 120mm high speed 2x tricool 120mm tricool 140mm Antec 300 Case
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10-10-08, 02:38 PM	Thread Starter #17
LMFRY Member Join Date: Nov 2004	Will definately have to try it. I had g.skill on my last c2d system and it was really good stuff. __________________ Asus P5Q-D E8400@4.0ghz 4gb ddr2-800 400gb WD HD 500gb Seagate 2xVisiontek HD4850 @ 690/1123- 19k 3DMK06 Corsair hx620 psu 20x DVD-RW 2x yate loons 120mm high speed 2x tricool 120mm tricool 140mm Antec 300 Case
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