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detroitpc313

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Hey i am new at water cooling!! I have done alot of homework and came to a conclusion of these TWO setups!! Tell me what you experts think! Witch one is better and or do you recommend anything different!!
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Setup A: ThermoChill PA 120.3 Radiatorhttp--- Swiftech Micro Small Form Factor Hi-Flow Acrylic Reservoir ---- Swiftech MCP655-B 12 Volt Industrial Pump



A::: http://www.mountainmods.com/thermochill-pa...ator-p-306.html -- http://www.jab-tech.com/Swiftech-MCRES-Micro-Rev-2-pr-4312.html -- http://www.jab-tech.com/Swiftech-MCP655-B-12-VDC-Pump-Without-speed-controller-pr-3803.html

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Setup B: Koolance RP-1000BK Black 1kW Series Reservoir & Pump --- Koolance EHX-1320BK 4-Fan Radiator and Fans/Shroud


B::: http://pcpowerzone.com/korpbl1kwser.html?p...channelid=FROOG ----- http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7265/koo...o_Fittings.html


I Deside on my water block (unless otherwise) --- http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7929/ex-...tml?id=CfRmJFcS


thank you
 
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rad: swifttech MCR 220
res: same as setup A
pump: same as setup a

dont forget to stack up on some 120mm fans
med speed yate loons are nice
what about your block(s)? ek supreme, dtek v2, and the swiftech one are nice
 
The Microcenter links don't bring up anything. :(

As for your loop, I would stay away from the Koolance stuff and roll my own like your first setup. The PA120.3 is a damn fine radiator, but you can save money by going with the Swiftech MCR320-QP instead. And I would buy either the MCP655 variable instead of the 655-B as it pumps a little faster on setting 5 (read that the 655-B is preset at the setting 4 speed). Or go with an MCP355 with an XSPC top on it, which actually puts out more flow rate and pressure than the 655 vario. The Swiftech GTZ block is a great choice; have one myself. And the Swiftech micro res is a good choice from all I've heard, but I don't actually own one so I can't directly comment on it.
 
Agreed on the PA 120.3 as a top choice. The MCR 320 is second. Good and much cheaper. Agreed on the pump suggestions.

Please stay away from Koolance. We have fought long and hard to educate people and could link to many many instances where the wrong choice was made.
 
Try Petras, or Jab-Tech for all your WCing needs. While the may not be the absolutely cheapest places to get things, they have great prices, are VERY knowledgeable, and have FANTASTIC customer support.

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The Microcenter links don't bring up anything. :(

As for your loop, I would stay away from the Koolance stuff and roll my own like your first setup. The PA120.3 is a damn fine radiator, but you can save money by going with the Swiftech MCR320-QP instead. And I would buy either the MCP655 variable instead of the 655-B as it pumps a little faster on setting 5 (read that the 655-B is preset at the setting 4 speed). Or go with an MCP355 with an XSPC top on it, which actually puts out more flow rate and pressure than the 655 vario. The Swiftech GTZ block is a great choice; have one myself. And the Swiftech micro res is a good choice from all I've heard, but I don't actually own one so I can't directly comment on it.

Hey thank you for the great response!! As for the Going with the MCR320(44$) compared to the PA120.3(120$) seems like a big difference in price!! almost as if it has better components and was built to last!!
For the MCP355( http://www.jab-tech.com/Swiftech-MCP-355-12v-DC-Pump-pr-3510.html ) and the XSPC top assuming this model( http://www.jab-tech.com/XSPC-Acrylic-Reservoir-for-Laing-DDC-pr-4123.html ) would thats be a better setup then the MCP655( http://www.jab-tech.com/Swiftech-MCP655-12-VDC-Pump-pr-2982.html ) and the Swiftech Micro Small Form Factor Hi-Flow Acrylic Reservoir( http://www.jab-tech.com/Swiftech-MCRES-Micro-Rev-2-pr-4312.html ) ...

thank you

PS fixed links ;) :)
 
If you are going with a cpu only loop, like it seems that you are, the MCR320-QP will be more than sufficient for your needs. The PA120.3 is a better radiator, but you really don't need it for a cpu only loop and you can save a lot of money by getting the Swiftech. And the MCP355 with the XSPC top is what I just went with for a pump on my latest water loop (cooling a Q6600 also) and while it's a few dollars more for the combo than the MCP655 vario it is more compact, has better pressure and better flow rate according to the Martin's Liquid labs flowrate estimator spreadsheet. And I am very satisfied with the pump/top combo and it was very easy to mount inside the case. Now if you go with the XSPC res top (which you linked to in your post) for the MCP355, Martin's testing showed that to have slightly better flow rates than the XSPC top I went with and would alleviate the need for a separate reservoir in your loop too. So that would be another great choice as it would take care of both pump and reservoir in one compact unit. But either of the XSPC tops for the MCP355 will do you well for your pumping needs. Just choose whether you want the reservoir to be integrated into your pump and go without a separate res in the loop with the XSPC Res top or go with the XSPC top I linked and use the Swiftech Micro Res in your loop.

For tubing choices, I would recommend the 1/2" Tygon Silver Antimicrobial tubing if you can afford it (it's expensive) because the silver in it will inhibit microbe and algae growth without the need for adding toxic stuff to the lopp such as antifreeze. I would still run a little algaecide in it (available at fish shops or wal mart for added security though. If you can't afford the silver Tygon and you aren't worried about putting UV reactive crap in your loop to look cool, I would recommend either the 7/16 or 1/2" Tygon R3400 or the PrimoFlex Pro LRT Black Tubing instead. Both are opaque black and limit light getting to the fluid in your loop. And algae doesn't grow if it can't get light. ;) One thing to note here: if you go with the 7/16 Tygon R3400, it is thin wall tubing and will collapse on the suction side of a strong pump. Use 1/2 X 3/4" tubing on the tubing feeding to the suction of your pump if possible. I ran into this problem on my main rig with the 7/16 R3400 and replaced that bit of tubing with the 1/2" Primochill between the reservoir and the Iwaki pump I am using in that loop.
 
If you are going with a cpu only loop, like it seems that you are, the MCR320-QP will be more than sufficient for your needs. The PA120.3 is a better radiator, but you really don't need it for a cpu only loop and you can save a lot of money by getting the Swiftech. And the MCP355 with the XSPC top is what I just went with for a pump on my latest water loop (cooling a Q6600 also) and while it's a few dollars more for the combo than the MCP655 vario it is more compact, has better pressure and better flow rate according to the Martin's Liquid labs flowrate estimator spreadsheet. And I am very satisfied with the pump/top combo and it was very easy to mount inside the case. Now if you go with the XSPC res top (which you linked to in your post) for the MCP355, Martin's testing showed that to have slightly better flow rates than the XSPC top I went with and would alleviate the need for a separate reservoir in your loop too. So that would be another great choice as it would take care of both pump and reservoir in one compact unit. But either of the XSPC tops for the MCP355 will do you well for your pumping needs. Just choose whether you want the reservoir to be integrated into your pump and go without a separate res in the loop with the XSPC Res top or go with the XSPC top I linked and use the Swiftech Micro Res in your loop.

For tubing choices, I would recommend the 1/2" Tygon Silver Antimicrobial tubing if you can afford it (it's expensive) because the silver in it will inhibit microbe and algae growth without the need for adding toxic stuff to the lopp such as antifreeze. I would still run a little algaecide in it (available at fish shops or wal mart for added security though. If you can't afford the silver Tygon and you aren't worried about putting UV reactive crap in your loop to look cool, I would recommend either the 7/16 or 1/2" Tygon R3400 or the PrimoFlex Pro LRT Black Tubing instead. Both are opaque black and limit light getting to the fluid in your loop. And algae doesn't grow if it can't get light. ;) One thing to note here: if you go with the 7/16 Tygon R3400, it is thin wall tubing and will collapse on the suction side of a strong pump. Use 1/2 X 3/4" tubing on the tubing feeding to the suction of your pump if possible. I ran into this problem on my main rig with the 7/16 R3400 and replaced that bit of tubing with the 1/2" Primochill between the reservoir and the Iwaki pump I am using in that loop.

I made a design to go with Setup A!! Due to the fact I well have room to add on 2 9800GX2 blocks in the future(Christmas) :santa::santa2: or do motherboard cooling!!

I am placing the order Monday night please tell me if i am missing anything!!!

RADIATOR-- http://www.mountainmods.com/thermochill-pa-1203-radiator-p-306.html

PUMP -- http://www.jab-tech.com/Swiftech-MCP655-12-VDC-Pump-pr-2982.html

ARE BOTH OF THESE FITTINGS THE SAME????????-- http://www.mountainmods.com/thermochill-g38-bsp-oring-sealing-12-fitting-p-436.html ---OR---- http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/ekhiflfig38t.html

Reservoir-- http://www.jab-tech.com/product.php?productid=4312

Tubing ;)10feet-- http://www.jab-tech.com/product.php?productid=4104

As for the CPU water block i ran into these as well:
Swiftech Apogee GTZ-- http://www.jab-tech.com/product.php?productid=4246

EK-Supreme - Acetal-- http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=199&products_id=22873 <<< LOOOKS LIKE THIS ONE

PS: what is some good coolinent to get ?
 
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