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nightelph · 11-12-08, 03:50 PM

This post is intended to be a handy quick reference to address common questions concerning Windows operating systems and large amounts of installed memory. If anyone would like to add to it, make a correction, or a suggestion, just post or PM me and I will edit it.

Common Question: "I installed four gigs of ram in my computer but Windows says I only have 3.12!"

Cause: All 32bit processors and OSs support 32bits of physical address space which allows software to address a total of 4GB. However, your BIOS reserves space for your graphics card and other peripherals, as does (sometimes) some of your drivers. Why? “This is because some physical address space must be reserved as I/O regions for memory mapped peripherals. These I/O regions are allocated between the 3 GB physical address and the 4 GB upper physical address limit. Physical memory addresses that are mapped to these I/O regions cannot be used to address physical system memory. These addresses also cannot be used to prevent the operating system from using some physical memory that would ordinarily be accessed between the 3GB physical address and the 4GB upper physical address limit. The size of these I/O regions varies from system to system because they determine the type and configuration of the system’s peripherals.” MS Link

Solution 1: If your processor supports x64 extensions, here’s a list, then the technically superior method is to load a 64bit version of the OS you want to use. Sometimes this incurs a small upgrade fee from MS, sometimes it involves buying a new OS outright. Depending on which version of Windows you buy, you can address up to 128GB of RAM.

Solution 2: Use PAE Mode. PAE is another way to address more than 4GBs or RAM; up to 128GBs in a 32bit environment. This method is limited to select versions of Windows Server only.

Note: Vista SP1 will report how much memory is physically installed on the machine, as opposed to how much is available to the OS. MS Link

Note: Systems with more than 4GBs of ram cannot be put into Hibernation. MS Link

Note: 32bit versions of Windows allow only 2GB of memory per process. However, some applications can take advantage of a feature available in select versions of Windows which allows the use of 3GB of RAM to be allocated to the user-mode process. This feature can also be utilized to allot 4GBs of ram to a 32bit processs within a 64bit environment. MS Link, MS Link

Note: 16bit programs will NOT work in a 64bit environment. Keep in mind that the installer for some 32bit applications are 16bit.

Note: If you have 4GBs of RAM and a 64-bit version of windows but it still reports 3.xx, then run msconfig from the Run prompt. Within the System Configuration Utility, navigate to the 'BOOT.INI' tab, click the 'Advanced Options' button. Make sure the '/MAXMEM=' option isn't checked. If it is checked, uncheck it and reboot.

nightelph · 11-12-08, 03:52 PM

Thread updates:

1.31.10: Updated broken MS link.

OldSkool · 11-12-08, 03:56 PM

Sticky Vote!! Very nice write up Nightelph

evoted · 11-12-08, 04:49 PM

nice thread!!! lots of useful info!!!

SeanBest · 11-12-08, 05:13 PM

Stickage ...

bing · 11-12-08, 06:26 PM

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@MOD: STICKY PLEASE !

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grungero · 11-12-08, 07:29 PM

Very useful info. Sticky!

Mr.Guvernment · 11-12-08, 09:10 PM

THANK YOU!!

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jason4207 · 11-12-08, 10:29 PM

Gooey...oh wait...thats not it...ummm...oh yeah...STICKY!!!!

mgoode · 11-13-08, 05:33 AM

I know the posts in the memory forum will go down but I have answered at least 10 of thses threads.

Please Sticky This!!!

muddocktor · 11-13-08, 07:56 AM

Glue applied.

nightelph · 11-13-08, 09:04 AM

Thanks Mudd.

muddocktor · 11-13-08, 11:33 AM

Yeah, this was a good idea that needed to be done. There are so many threads asking "Why doesn't my computer see all my ram" being posted all the time. Thanks for making a nice short sweet post explaining it all.

burningcpu · 11-13-08, 02:04 PM

Yup, wtg nightelph

petteyg359 · 11-14-08, 08:19 AM

You REALLY need to mention in there that true PAE support with Microsoft operating systems is only available on Server editions. There is NO WAY TO ENABLE TRUE PAE FOR >4GB MEMORY SUPPORT ON NON-SERVER WINDOWS.

nightelph · 11-14-08, 08:21 AM

According to the MS Link I posted; "The information in this article applies to Windows 2000, Windows XP Professional, Windows Server 2003, and later versions of these operating systems." - MS

I do agree that its is way more practical to use PAE on Server OSs than desktop ones. Can you explain technically why 'true pae' cannot be enable on a desktop os?

petteyg359 · 11-14-08, 08:23 AM

The PAE available on non-server/enterprise editions is a limited subset to allow DEP to function. It does NOT allow access to >4GB memory. Did you read to the bottom of the page?

Quote:

Windows and PAE
Windows Version Support

Windows 2000 Professional
Windows XP
AWE API and 4 GB of physical RAM

Windows XP SP2 and later
AWE API and 4 GB of physical address space

Windows 2000 Server
Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition
AWE API and 4 GB of RAM

Windows Server 2003 SP1, Standard Edition
AWE API and 4 GB of physical address space

Windows Server 2003, Enterprise Edition
8 processors and 32 GB RAM

Windows Server 2003 SP1, Enterprise Edition
8 processors and 64 GB RAM

Windows 2000 Advanced Server
8 processors and 8 GB RAM

Windows 2000 Datacenter Server
32 processors and 32 GB RAM (support for 64 GB was not offered because of a lack of systems for testing)

Windows Server 2003, Datacenter Edition
32 processors and 64 GB RAM

Windows Server 2003 SP1, Datacenter Edition
32 processors and 128 GB RAM

nightelph · 11-14-08, 09:18 AM

Busted. That chart isn't on my printout that I read. I'll update the main post. Thanks for the correction.

Robbman · 01-13-09, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nightelph

Note: 32bit versions of Windows allow only 2GB of memory per process. Wiki Link

LMA aware apps can utilize up to 3Gb with the /3Gb switch.

32-bit LMA apps in a 64-bit environment will use 4Gb.

nightelph · 01-14-09, 06:41 AM

^ Updated, thank you.

deathman20 · 01-14-09, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbman

LMA aware apps can utilize up to 3Gb with the /3Gb switch.

32-bit LMA apps in a 64-bit environment will use 4Gb.

Go you need a switch to enable 32-bit LMA apps to use 4Gb in 64-bit environment? That is something thats sweet.

st@s · 06-09-09, 08:35 AM

спасибо за инфо

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imposter · 06-09-09, 08:39 AM

Yay, we needed one of these.

Cowboy X · 06-17-09, 12:44 AM

Nice thread and sticky. I would add the following links as additional reading to the sticky:

http://www.anandtech.com/gadgets/sho...spx?i=3034&p=1
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=3044
http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=3060

And this should be of some interest going forward:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=4254

nightelph · 06-17-09, 01:08 PM

^ Nice Suby.

And nice links, they will be handy as the thread ages.

Cowboy X · 06-30-09, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nightelph

^ Nice Suby.

And nice links, they will be handy as the thread ages.

No problem. By the way the car in my avatar is still going strong

technojunkie180 · 07-06-09, 04:47 PM

Thank you for this. Helped me understand so I wouldn't get confused in the future.

nightelph · 07-14-09, 08:47 PM

Glad I can be of said assistance.

P.S. My #2 reserved post will eventually be an upgrade for 'modern' systems.... in another few years.

nightelph · 09-11-09, 10:19 PM

Updated. Thanks redduc900.

Kbird · 09-18-09, 10:37 PM

Thanks, just what I was looking for

11-12-08, 03:50 PM	#1
nightelph Display/Imaging Content Editor Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: SF Bay, CA	4GBs RAM, 32/64bit OSs This post is intended to be a handy quick reference to address common questions concerning Windows operating systems and large amounts of installed memory. If anyone would like to add to it, make a correction, or a suggestion, just post or PM me and I will edit it. Common Question: "I installed four gigs of ram in my computer but Windows says I only have 3.12!" Cause: All 32bit processors and OSs support 32bits of physical address space which allows software to address a total of 4GB. However, your BIOS reserves space for your graphics card and other peripherals, as does (sometimes) some of your drivers. Why? “This is because some physical address space must be reserved as I/O regions for memory mapped peripherals. These I/O regions are allocated between the 3 GB physical address and the 4 GB upper physical address limit. Physical memory addresses that are mapped to these I/O regions cannot be used to address physical system memory. These addresses also cannot be used to prevent the operating system from using some physical memory that would ordinarily be accessed between the 3GB physical address and the 4GB upper physical address limit. The size of these I/O regions varies from system to system because they determine the type and configuration of the system’s peripherals.” MS Link Solution 1: If your processor supports x64 extensions, here’s a list, then the technically superior method is to load a 64bit version of the OS you want to use. Sometimes this incurs a small upgrade fee from MS, sometimes it involves buying a new OS outright. Depending on which version of Windows you buy, you can address up to 128GB of RAM. Solution 2: Use PAE Mode. PAE is another way to address more than 4GBs or RAM; up to 128GBs in a 32bit environment. This method is limited to select versions of Windows Server only. Note: Vista SP1 will report how much memory is physically installed on the machine, as opposed to how much is available to the OS. MS Link Note: Systems with more than 4GBs of ram cannot be put into Hibernation. MS Link Note: 32bit versions of Windows allow only 2GB of memory per process. However, some applications can take advantage of a feature available in select versions of Windows which allows the use of 3GB of RAM to be allocated to the user-mode process. This feature can also be utilized to allot 4GBs of ram to a 32bit processs within a 64bit environment. MS Link, MS Link Note: 16bit programs will NOT work in a 64bit environment. Keep in mind that the installer for some 32bit applications are 16bit. Note: If you have 4GBs of RAM and a 64-bit version of windows but it still reports 3.xx, then run msconfig from the Run prompt. Within the System Configuration Utility, navigate to the 'BOOT.INI' tab, click the 'Advanced Options' button. Make sure the '/MAXMEM=' option isn't checked. If it is checked, uncheck it and reboot. __________________ Q9650 @ 4ghz, ASUS P5KP35 300GB V-Raptor, 1.0TB CaviarB64MB eVGA GTX285, 4GB 1069mhz Dominator Enermax Infiniti 720W, Dell 2408wfp Win7Ux64, NZXT Adamas Case Heat Have 4GBs of RAM and Windows reports only 3.xx? Read the Sticky! Last edited by nightelph; 01-31-10 at 09:33 PM.

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11-12-08, 03:52 PM	#2
nightelph Display/Imaging Content Editor Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: SF Bay, CA	Thread updates: 1.31.10: Updated broken MS link. __________________ Q9650 @ 4ghz, ASUS P5KP35 300GB V-Raptor, 1.0TB CaviarB64MB eVGA GTX285, 4GB 1069mhz Dominator Enermax Infiniti 720W, Dell 2408wfp Win7Ux64, NZXT Adamas Case Heat Have 4GBs of RAM and Windows reports only 3.xx? Read the Sticky! Last edited by nightelph; 02-05-10 at 10:02 PM.

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11-14-08, 08:21 AM	#16
nightelph Display/Imaging Content Editor Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: SF Bay, CA	According to the MS Link I posted; "The information in this article applies to Windows 2000, Windows XP Professional, Windows Server 2003, and later versions of these operating systems." - MS I do agree that its is way more practical to use PAE on Server OSs than desktop ones. Can you explain technically why 'true pae' cannot be enable on a desktop os? __________________ Q9650 @ 4ghz, ASUS P5KP35 300GB V-Raptor, 1.0TB CaviarB64MB eVGA GTX285, 4GB 1069mhz Dominator Enermax Infiniti 720W, Dell 2408wfp Win7Ux64, NZXT Adamas Case Heat Have 4GBs of RAM and Windows reports only 3.xx? Read the Sticky! Last edited by nightelph; 11-14-08 at 08:43 AM.

11-14-08, 09:18 AM	#18
nightelph Display/Imaging Content Editor Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: SF Bay, CA	Busted. That chart isn't on my printout that I read. I'll update the main post. Thanks for the correction. __________________ Q9650 @ 4ghz, ASUS P5KP35 300GB V-Raptor, 1.0TB CaviarB64MB eVGA GTX285, 4GB 1069mhz Dominator Enermax Infiniti 720W, Dell 2408wfp Win7Ux64, NZXT Adamas Case Heat Have 4GBs of RAM and Windows reports only 3.xx? Read the Sticky!

01-14-09, 06:41 AM	#20
nightelph Display/Imaging Content Editor Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: SF Bay, CA	^ Updated, thank you. __________________ Q9650 @ 4ghz, ASUS P5KP35 300GB V-Raptor, 1.0TB CaviarB64MB eVGA GTX285, 4GB 1069mhz Dominator Enermax Infiniti 720W, Dell 2408wfp Win7Ux64, NZXT Adamas Case Heat Have 4GBs of RAM and Windows reports only 3.xx? Read the Sticky!

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06-17-09, 01:08 PM	#25
nightelph Display/Imaging Content Editor Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: SF Bay, CA	^ Nice Suby. And nice links, they will be handy as the thread ages. __________________ Q9650 @ 4ghz, ASUS P5KP35 300GB V-Raptor, 1.0TB CaviarB64MB eVGA GTX285, 4GB 1069mhz Dominator Enermax Infiniti 720W, Dell 2408wfp Win7Ux64, NZXT Adamas Case Heat Have 4GBs of RAM and Windows reports only 3.xx? Read the Sticky!

07-06-09, 04:47 PM	#27
technojunkie180 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: SLO Town	Thank you for this. Helped me understand so I wouldn't get confused in the future.

07-14-09, 08:47 PM	#28
nightelph Display/Imaging Content Editor Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: SF Bay, CA	Glad I can be of said assistance. P.S. My #2 reserved post will eventually be an upgrade for 'modern' systems.... in another few years. __________________ Q9650 @ 4ghz, ASUS P5KP35 300GB V-Raptor, 1.0TB CaviarB64MB eVGA GTX285, 4GB 1069mhz Dominator Enermax Infiniti 720W, Dell 2408wfp Win7Ux64, NZXT Adamas Case Heat Have 4GBs of RAM and Windows reports only 3.xx? Read the Sticky! Last edited by nightelph; 07-14-09 at 09:22 PM.

09-11-09, 10:19 PM	#29
nightelph Display/Imaging Content Editor Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: SF Bay, CA	Updated. Thanks redduc900. __________________ Q9650 @ 4ghz, ASUS P5KP35 300GB V-Raptor, 1.0TB CaviarB64MB eVGA GTX285, 4GB 1069mhz Dominator Enermax Infiniti 720W, Dell 2408wfp Win7Ux64, NZXT Adamas Case Heat Have 4GBs of RAM and Windows reports only 3.xx? Read the Sticky!

09-18-09, 10:37 PM	#30
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