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thescavenger · 01-21-09, 10:39 PM

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Highest Results

802/1074: 59 degrees under load

12,033 in 3DMark06

6,614 in 3DMark Vantage
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XFX HD 4830

I'm going to jot down my initial thoughts and bit about its overclocking ability.

Setup 1

Athlon X2 5050e 2.6GHz 1MB L2
2x1GB Super Talent DDR2 800
Asus M3A78-EM 780G/SB700
XFX HD 4830 512MB
Vista 32-bit

Setup 2

Athlon X2 7750 BE @ 3.0GHz
2x1GB OCZ DDR2 1066
Asus M3A78-EM 780G/SB700
XFX HD 4830 512MB
Vista 32-bit

Setup 3

Athlon X2 7750 BE @ 3.3GHz
2x1GB OCZ 1066 DDR2
DFI LP Jr 790GX-M2RS
XFX HD 4830 512MB
Windows 7 Beta 32-bit

Aesthetics

The card looks great! Typical XFX quality all around. It has a flat black finish, a black PCB and a black PCI bracket. Did I mention that its black?

Cooling

First off, with the stock fan profile the 4830 idles around 38 degrees and loads in the low 50s! That is a huge difference than what I used to see with my reference 4850 and 4870. Fan noise is pretty quiet as well but picks up a little as the card is loaded (obviously).

Overclocking

The factory clocks are set at 575/900. So far I have it 3DMark06 stable at 802/1074. Any memory frequency above 1078MHz causes instant artifacting on the desktop. In addition, overclocking the core and memory haven't raised the load temps above a couple of degrees.

3DMark06 Setup 1

575/900: 8,883

SM 2.0: 3945
SM 3.0: 4536
CPU Score: 1852

650/1000: 9,276

675/1050: 9,459

700/1050: 9,445

721/1050 (CPU @ 2.8GHz): 10,056

SM 2.0: 4547
SM 3.0: 5220
CPU Score: 2012

749/1078 (CPU @ 2.8GHz): 10,096

SM 2.0: 4549
SM 3.0: 5290
CPU Score: 2004

802/1074 (CPU @ 2.8GHz): 10,197

SM 2.0: 4565
SM 3.0: 5404
CPU Score: 2010

3DMark06 Setup 2

575/900: 9,878

SM 2.0: 4225
SM 3.0: 4839
CPU Score: 2290

749/1078: 11,253

SM 2.0: 5093
SM 3.0: 5724
CPU Score: 2308

802/1074: 11,561

SM 2.0: 5237
SM 3.0: 5994
CPU Score: 2312

3DMark06 Setup 3

802/1074: 12,033

SM 2.0: 5332
SM 3.0: 6167
CPU Score: 2503

3DMark Vantage Setup 1

802/1074: P5993

GPU Score: 7048
CPU Score: 4135

3DMark Vantage Setup 2

802/1074: P6469

GPU Score: 7330
CPU Score: 4783

3DMark Vantage Setup 3

802/1074: P6614

GPU Score: 7289
CPU Score: 5174

Rich'[ard] · 01-21-09, 10:51 PM

i've read 4830 crossfire is nearly as good as 4850 crossfire.

have you plans to go Crossfire?

and great thread

thescavenger · 01-21-09, 11:11 PM

Peformance between a 4830 and a 4850 is nearly identical. The 4830 will just run a lot cooler.

I will definitely go Crossfire when I get my X58 board.

2 x 4830s = $250!

EdwardTobia · 01-22-09, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thescavenger

Peformance between a 4830 and a 4850 is nearly identical. The 4830 will just run a lot cooler.

I will definitely go Crossfire when I get my X58 board.

2 x 4830s = $250!

Thats not the only difference...

The 4850 has 800 unified shaders, the 4830 has 640 unified shaders

Other than that they are the same

thescavenger · 01-22-09, 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdwardTobia

Thats not the only difference...

The 4850 has 800 unified shaders, the 4830 has 640 unified shaders

Thanks for pointing that out.

In my experience those extra 160 shaders are only noticeable when using hi-res, hi AA/AF settings.

Rich'[ard] · 01-22-09, 05:15 AM

hmmm, i'm tempted

reckno you can crossfire 4850 and 4830 then? it should give the same performance as 4850 crossfire if what you said is true.

4870 + 4850 crossfire means the 4870 runs at the speed of the 4850 yeah...so if a 4830 is pretty much = to 4850, it should be nothing to worry about!

Badbonji · 01-22-09, 08:48 AM

What about tri-fire with the new hydra chip (fingers crossed its coming soon). That will outperform the current HD4870X2 no doubt

thescavenger · 01-22-09, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich'[ard]

hmmm, i'm tempted

reckno you can crossfire 4850 and 4830 then? it should give the same performance as 4850 crossfire if what you said is true.

4870 + 4850 crossfire means the 4870 runs at the speed of the 4850 yeah...so if a 4830 is pretty much = to 4850, it should be nothing to worry about!

Exactly!

I had a 4870/4850 setup for awhile. That particular 4850 was a terrible overclocker which restricted my 4870 to 700MHz.

thescavenger · 01-22-09, 12:42 PM

Bump for higher clocks!

Rich'[ard] · 01-22-09, 07:28 PM

i can't get my model 4850 anymore the shops here in Melbourne don't stock them anymore. and they' don't come with Crosfire connecter/cable so that's annoying.

i might pick up a 4830 then, if you can Xfire with them

EdwardTobia · 01-22-09, 08:34 PM

Ive been hearing about the 4850's as bad overclockers but i have to say mine is amazing!

I managed to hit 800 on the core and 1200 on the memory (2400 effective) which was stable ingame for around a while but then would freeze (not due to heat, temps are amazing), with slightly more voltage it would be stable...

I leave it to run at 730/1100(2200 effective) for everyday use/gaming, i may vMod one day to reach 800+ core speeds and higher memory speeds...

Maybe im just lucky and had a good OC'er?

thescavenger · 01-22-09, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdwardTobia

Ive been hearing about the 4850's as bad overclockers but i have to say mine is amazing!

Just to clarify, did you mean 4830s or 4850s?

EdwardTobia · 01-23-09, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thescavenger

Just to clarify, did you mean 4830s or 4850s?

I meant the 4850's

Btw i see you have got a great overclock on that 4830, i can reach 800+ core speeds with some extra voltage, did you manage to hit that stable with stock voltage?

I can hit 800 core but its only stable for around half hour of gaming then it freezes, with extra voltage i could make it stable...

I may get one of these 4830's :P

Kuroimaho · 01-23-09, 07:04 AM

I checked in ORB the results are very close to the 4850, if it stays the same in RL this a real killer buy.

Runs off to check 4830 prices.

Congrats man that was well done, 3rd place in ORB...

thescavenger · 01-23-09, 12:32 PM

This is all on stock volts.

What am I in 3rd place in?

Rich'[ard] · 01-25-09, 07:51 AM

great stuff!

have you tested 3dmark06 since you reached your highest clock? results would be awesome

thescavenger · 01-25-09, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich'[ard]

great stuff!

have you tested 3dmark06 since you reached your highest clock? results would be awesome

Yep, I got 10,197. A decent dual-core would really unleash this beast

reboot · 01-26-09, 04:34 AM

cool thread

thescavenger · 01-26-09, 10:07 AM

Thanks!

I added a 3DMark Vantage score.

reboot · 01-26-09, 10:34 PM

this inspired me to build a 4830 CF set up one day

thescavenger · 01-26-09, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reboot

this inspired me to build a 4830 CF set up one day

I'll take that as a compliment

reboot · 01-27-09, 02:27 AM

i just dibbed an x38 so im 1/3 of the way there LOL

thescavenger · 01-27-09, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reboot

i just dibbed an x38 so im 1/3 of the way there LOL

Bah, you're 90% there

gian84 · 01-27-09, 04:45 AM

thescavenger:
Very nice overclock on your 4830. I'm just wondering, what is your 3dmark vantage gpu score?

thescavenger · 01-27-09, 10:13 AM

Graphics score is 7048.

reboot · 01-27-09, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thescavenger

Bah, you're 90% there

well

i just ordered some ddr2 and a single xfx 4830, so im very close now. I hope i get a really good card like you got. I'll get a second 4830 when i sell some more old parts.

sandyduff · 01-27-09, 03:48 PM

Good to see ATI can produce good graphics cards at low costs...

Good job!!

thescavenger · 01-28-09, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reboot

well

i just ordered some ddr2 and a single xfx 4830, so im very close now. I hope i get a really good card like you got. I'll get a second 4830 when i sell some more old parts.

Post up some results for us when you get your machine together

thescavenger · 01-28-09, 03:18 AM

I added some results with a 7750 BE processor.

Kuroimaho · 01-28-09, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thescavenger

This is all on stock volts.

What am I in 3rd place in?

Was the third maybe still is among the 3DM06 K8 4830 OC results.

Thanks for the update with the new cpu as well.

01-21-09, 10:39 PM	#1
thescavenger Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kansas City, MO	XFX HD 4830....Overclocking, Temps and 3DMark, etc ___________________________________________ Highest Results 802/1074: 59 degrees under load 12,033 in 3DMark06 6,614 in 3DMark Vantage ___________________________________________ XFX HD 4830 I'm going to jot down my initial thoughts and bit about its overclocking ability. Setup 1 Athlon X2 5050e 2.6GHz 1MB L2 2x1GB Super Talent DDR2 800 Asus M3A78-EM 780G/SB700 XFX HD 4830 512MB Vista 32-bit Setup 2 Athlon X2 7750 BE @ 3.0GHz 2x1GB OCZ DDR2 1066 Asus M3A78-EM 780G/SB700 XFX HD 4830 512MB Vista 32-bit Setup 3 Athlon X2 7750 BE @ 3.3GHz 2x1GB OCZ 1066 DDR2 DFI LP Jr 790GX-M2RS XFX HD 4830 512MB Windows 7 Beta 32-bit Aesthetics The card looks great! Typical XFX quality all around. It has a flat black finish, a black PCB and a black PCI bracket. Did I mention that its black? Cooling First off, with the stock fan profile the 4830 idles around 38 degrees and loads in the low 50s! That is a huge difference than what I used to see with my reference 4850 and 4870. Fan noise is pretty quiet as well but picks up a little as the card is loaded (obviously). Overclocking The factory clocks are set at 575/900. So far I have it 3DMark06 stable at 802/1074. Any memory frequency above 1078MHz causes instant artifacting on the desktop. In addition, overclocking the core and memory haven't raised the load temps above a couple of degrees. 3DMark06 Setup 1 575/900: 8,883 SM 2.0: 3945 SM 3.0: 4536 CPU Score: 1852 650/1000: 9,276 675/1050: 9,459 700/1050: 9,445 721/1050 (CPU @ 2.8GHz): 10,056 SM 2.0: 4547 SM 3.0: 5220 CPU Score: 2012 749/1078 (CPU @ 2.8GHz): 10,096 SM 2.0: 4549 SM 3.0: 5290 CPU Score: 2004 802/1074 (CPU @ 2.8GHz): 10,197 SM 2.0: 4565 SM 3.0: 5404 CPU Score: 2010 3DMark06 Setup 2 575/900: 9,878 SM 2.0: 4225 SM 3.0: 4839 CPU Score: 2290 749/1078: 11,253 SM 2.0: 5093 SM 3.0: 5724 CPU Score: 2308 802/1074: 11,561 SM 2.0: 5237 SM 3.0: 5994 CPU Score: 2312 3DMark06 Setup 3 802/1074: 12,033 SM 2.0: 5332 SM 3.0: 6167 CPU Score: 2503 3DMark Vantage Setup 1 802/1074: P5993 GPU Score: 7048 CPU Score: 4135 3DMark Vantage Setup 2 802/1074: P6469 GPU Score: 7330 CPU Score: 4783 3DMark Vantage Setup 3 802/1074: P6614 GPU Score: 7289 CPU Score: 5174 __________________ \|Case\| Antec P180 Mini mATX Tower \|MoBo\| EVGA X58 SLI Micro mATX \|CPU\| Intel Core i7 920 D0 4.2GHz \|GPU\| Asus HD 4890 TOP 1024MB \|RAM\| 3x2GB OCZ Reaper 1866MHz \|HDD\| WD 640GB 6400AAKS 16MB \|PSU\| PCP&C Silencer 750W Quad \|H2O\| D-Tek V2, GTS 360, Laing D5 \|BMs\| '06: 21,023- Vantage: P13,279 Last edited by thescavenger; 02-03-09 at 01:29 AM.

01-21-09, 10:51 PM	#2
Rich'[ard] Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Melbourne Australia	i've read 4830 crossfire is nearly as good as 4850 crossfire. have you plans to go Crossfire? and great thread __________________ яι¢н. Processor Core 2 Duo e6400 @ 3.4 Heatsink TRUE-120 Motherboard Asus P5E (RF BIOS) 0410 Memory 4GB OCZ Reaper X Hard Drive Seagate 250GB + Samsung 750GB Graphics Card Powercolor 4850 play! Power Supply Coolermaster Extreme 650w Case Antec 900 Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Peripherals Logitech z5400 5.1............G15\|G3

01-21-09, 11:11 PM	#3
thescavenger Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kansas City, MO	Peformance between a 4830 and a 4850 is nearly identical. The 4830 will just run a lot cooler. I will definitely go Crossfire when I get my X58 board. 2 x 4830s = $250! __________________ \|Case\| Antec P180 Mini mATX Tower \|MoBo\| EVGA X58 SLI Micro mATX \|CPU\| Intel Core i7 920 D0 4.2GHz \|GPU\| Asus HD 4890 TOP 1024MB \|RAM\| 3x2GB OCZ Reaper 1866MHz \|HDD\| WD 640GB 6400AAKS 16MB \|PSU\| PCP&C Silencer 750W Quad \|H2O\| D-Tek V2, GTS 360, Laing D5 \|BMs\| '06: 21,023- Vantage: P13,279

01-22-09, 05:15 AM	#6
Rich'[ard] Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Melbourne Australia	hmmm, i'm tempted reckno you can crossfire 4850 and 4830 then? it should give the same performance as 4850 crossfire if what you said is true. 4870 + 4850 crossfire means the 4870 runs at the speed of the 4850 yeah...so if a 4830 is pretty much = to 4850, it should be nothing to worry about! __________________ яι¢н. Processor Core 2 Duo e6400 @ 3.4 Heatsink TRUE-120 Motherboard Asus P5E (RF BIOS) 0410 Memory 4GB OCZ Reaper X Hard Drive Seagate 250GB + Samsung 750GB Graphics Card Powercolor 4850 play! Power Supply Coolermaster Extreme 650w Case Antec 900 Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Peripherals Logitech z5400 5.1............G15\|G3

01-22-09, 08:48 AM	#7
Badbonji Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cambridge, UK	What about tri-fire with the new hydra chip (fingers crossed its coming soon). That will outperform the current HD4870X2 no doubt __________________ Systems Desktop \| Laptop - MSI GT725 i7 965 4.35Ghz 1.37Vcore P9500 3.13Ghz 6Gb G.Skill 1600Mhz 1.5V 4Gb DDR2 1000Mhz BFG GTX295 RMA :( Mobility HD4850 @ 550/1800 2 x 150GB Raptors raid 0 + 3TB Storage 500GB Antec 1200 + Internal WC MCP 655/ EK 250 Res/ EK Supreme/ Black Ice GTX480

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01-22-09, 12:42 PM	#9
thescavenger Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kansas City, MO	Bump for higher clocks! __________________ \|Case\| Antec P180 Mini mATX Tower \|MoBo\| EVGA X58 SLI Micro mATX \|CPU\| Intel Core i7 920 D0 4.2GHz \|GPU\| Asus HD 4890 TOP 1024MB \|RAM\| 3x2GB OCZ Reaper 1866MHz \|HDD\| WD 640GB 6400AAKS 16MB \|PSU\| PCP&C Silencer 750W Quad \|H2O\| D-Tek V2, GTS 360, Laing D5 \|BMs\| '06: 21,023- Vantage: P13,279

01-22-09, 07:28 PM	#10
Rich'[ard] Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Melbourne Australia	i can't get my model 4850 anymore the shops here in Melbourne don't stock them anymore. and they' don't come with Crosfire connecter/cable so that's annoying. i might pick up a 4830 then, if you can Xfire with them __________________ яι¢н. Processor Core 2 Duo e6400 @ 3.4 Heatsink TRUE-120 Motherboard Asus P5E (RF BIOS) 0410 Memory 4GB OCZ Reaper X Hard Drive Seagate 250GB + Samsung 750GB Graphics Card Powercolor 4850 play! Power Supply Coolermaster Extreme 650w Case Antec 900 Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Peripherals Logitech z5400 5.1............G15\|G3

01-22-09, 08:34 PM	#11
EdwardTobia Member Join Date: Jan 2005	Ive been hearing about the 4850's as bad overclockers but i have to say mine is amazing! I managed to hit 800 on the core and 1200 on the memory (2400 effective) which was stable ingame for around a while but then would freeze (not due to heat, temps are amazing), with slightly more voltage it would be stable... I leave it to run at 730/1100(2200 effective) for everyday use/gaming, i may vMod one day to reach 800+ core speeds and higher memory speeds... Maybe im just lucky and had a good OC'er? __________________ CPU: AMD Phenom X4 9850 BE "Agena" @ 2.71ghz @ 1.30v MOBO: MSI K9N-SLI V2 HDDS: WDC 160GB, WDC 250GB, WDC 40GB RAM: Samsung 8GB DDR2 800 (4x2GB) @ 870 GPU: Palit GTX260/216 896MB @ 700/1200 PSU: Corsair TX650W Power Supply OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64

01-23-09, 07:04 AM	#14
Kuroimaho Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Japan, Tokyo, Ueno.	I checked in ORB the results are very close to the 4850, if it stays the same in RL this a real killer buy. Runs off to check 4830 prices. Congrats man that was well done, 3rd place in ORB... __________________ Zalman Zmachine GT1000 I7920 4G Apogee GTZ I7, Bloodrage, 6GB, WD3000GLFS, WD1TB, XFX 285BE 820/2800 MCW60, LG 22", S12 550W, G9 Zalman TNN300 Q6600 3.4G, Asus P5E-VM, 2GB, WD3000GLFS, 2x501LJ, Apple 23" Zalman TNN500 Phenom 2 550 X4 3.5G, GA-MA790FX-UD5P, TWIN2X4096-6400C4DHX,Tesla C1060, WD3000GLFS 3x1TB WD, Apple 30".

01-23-09, 12:32 PM	#15
thescavenger Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kansas City, MO	This is all on stock volts. What am I in 3rd place in? __________________ \|Case\| Antec P180 Mini mATX Tower \|MoBo\| EVGA X58 SLI Micro mATX \|CPU\| Intel Core i7 920 D0 4.2GHz \|GPU\| Asus HD 4890 TOP 1024MB \|RAM\| 3x2GB OCZ Reaper 1866MHz \|HDD\| WD 640GB 6400AAKS 16MB \|PSU\| PCP&C Silencer 750W Quad \|H2O\| D-Tek V2, GTS 360, Laing D5 \|BMs\| '06: 21,023- Vantage: P13,279

01-25-09, 07:51 AM	#16
Rich'[ard] Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Melbourne Australia	great stuff! have you tested 3dmark06 since you reached your highest clock? results would be awesome __________________ яι¢н. Processor Core 2 Duo e6400 @ 3.4 Heatsink TRUE-120 Motherboard Asus P5E (RF BIOS) 0410 Memory 4GB OCZ Reaper X Hard Drive Seagate 250GB + Samsung 750GB Graphics Card Powercolor 4850 play! Power Supply Coolermaster Extreme 650w Case Antec 900 Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Peripherals Logitech z5400 5.1............G15\|G3

01-26-09, 04:34 AM	#18
reboot Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Spring Branch, TX	cool thread __________________ envy 15 WEWT! e4300 2.8 (350X8) Guess I need help ^_^ Gigabyte EP45-UD3P XFX 4830 690/1090 4GB geil evoone ddr2 800 SB Audigy ExtremeMusic & Beyer DT 770 Pro 80 ohm -heatware-

01-26-09, 10:07 AM	#19
thescavenger Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kansas City, MO	Thanks! I added a 3DMark Vantage score. __________________ \|Case\| Antec P180 Mini mATX Tower \|MoBo\| EVGA X58 SLI Micro mATX \|CPU\| Intel Core i7 920 D0 4.2GHz \|GPU\| Asus HD 4890 TOP 1024MB \|RAM\| 3x2GB OCZ Reaper 1866MHz \|HDD\| WD 640GB 6400AAKS 16MB \|PSU\| PCP&C Silencer 750W Quad \|H2O\| D-Tek V2, GTS 360, Laing D5 \|BMs\| '06: 21,023- Vantage: P13,279

01-26-09, 10:34 PM	#20
reboot Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Spring Branch, TX	this inspired me to build a 4830 CF set up one day __________________ envy 15 WEWT! e4300 2.8 (350X8) Guess I need help ^_^ Gigabyte EP45-UD3P XFX 4830 690/1090 4GB geil evoone ddr2 800 SB Audigy ExtremeMusic & Beyer DT 770 Pro 80 ohm -heatware-

01-27-09, 02:27 AM	#22
reboot Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Spring Branch, TX	i just dibbed an x38 so im 1/3 of the way there LOL __________________ envy 15 WEWT! e4300 2.8 (350X8) Guess I need help ^_^ Gigabyte EP45-UD3P XFX 4830 690/1090 4GB geil evoone ddr2 800 SB Audigy ExtremeMusic & Beyer DT 770 Pro 80 ohm -heatware-

01-27-09, 04:45 AM	#24
gian84 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Metro Manila	thescavenger: Very nice overclock on your 4830. I'm just wondering, what is your 3dmark vantage gpu score? __________________ CPU: E6300 Wolfdale @ 4.0Ghz HSF: CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus MB: Gigabyte GA-G31M-ES2C Gfx: MSI 4830 OC @ 860/1120 Mem: Transcend 800 2x2gb HDD: WD Caviar Blue 640gb AAKS Case: CoolerMaster 690 PSU: HEC WIN+ Power 550W OS: Windows Vista Ultimate SP2 LCD: LG W2252TQ 22"

01-27-09, 10:13 AM	#25
thescavenger Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kansas City, MO	Graphics score is 7048. __________________ \|Case\| Antec P180 Mini mATX Tower \|MoBo\| EVGA X58 SLI Micro mATX \|CPU\| Intel Core i7 920 D0 4.2GHz \|GPU\| Asus HD 4890 TOP 1024MB \|RAM\| 3x2GB OCZ Reaper 1866MHz \|HDD\| WD 640GB 6400AAKS 16MB \|PSU\| PCP&C Silencer 750W Quad \|H2O\| D-Tek V2, GTS 360, Laing D5 \|BMs\| '06: 21,023- Vantage: P13,279

01-27-09, 03:48 PM	#27
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01-28-09, 03:18 AM	#29
thescavenger Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kansas City, MO	I added some results with a 7750 BE processor. __________________ \|Case\| Antec P180 Mini mATX Tower \|MoBo\| EVGA X58 SLI Micro mATX \|CPU\| Intel Core i7 920 D0 4.2GHz \|GPU\| Asus HD 4890 TOP 1024MB \|RAM\| 3x2GB OCZ Reaper 1866MHz \|HDD\| WD 640GB 6400AAKS 16MB \|PSU\| PCP&C Silencer 750W Quad \|H2O\| D-Tek V2, GTS 360, Laing D5 \|BMs\| '06: 21,023- Vantage: P13,279