Crossfire with World of warcraft

fast96se · 02-12-09, 07:12 PM

I just got my crossfire to work. My fix was updated my mobo bios and getting 8.10 drivers instead of 9.1, if i go higher than 8.10 the crossfire option dissapears. Anyway i logged into wow today with crossfire enabled and it didnt look right. Everything was flashing a bunch. When i disabled crossfire i logged in and it looked fine. Would like to hear what you guys think about this

henzo · 02-12-09, 07:20 PM

WoW doesnt need crossfire, thats why. It will run on alot of cheap-o cards just fine lol. The in-town lag usually comes from server or internet lag, not graphics intensity.

fast96se · 02-12-09, 08:35 PM

well yea wow doesnt need it but why am i getting this problem, id rather not have to disable/enable crossfire when switching between games.

vixro · 02-12-09, 08:54 PM

Don't use crossfire with WoW. Not needed and just causes problems. It's like trying to enable crossfire for Diablo II and not expecting problems.

You can't expect new technology to work with extremely old technology all the time. You said it flashes with crossfire on, works with it off. Logical solution is to play it with crossfire off right? You don't lose any performance.

Will.C · 02-12-09, 09:48 PM

The blinking/flickering problem that you have in WoW is indeed a known bug when running crossfire. However, Catalyst 8.12 and further have resolved this issue.

Under resolved issues in 8.12, it states: "Setting shadow quality to high or medium
may cause flickering in World of Warcraft"

If you are experiencing Catalyst issues, you may want to try the 8.12 hotfix drivers

If you are unable to get catalyst drivers to install, make sure both HD 4850's have the same bios version.

If only 8.10 works, 1) run the game in window mode 2) disable crossfire 4) disable Catalyst AI or 4) set shadow quality to the lowest setting

With the brief time i've had with WoW, i can confrim that the latest patch fixes the flickering. Although i am able to see gpu load on both cards, crossfire offers no improvement over a single card, but at least crossfire is compatible now.

Aztroth · 02-12-09, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fast96se

I just got my crossfire to work. My fix was updated my mobo bios and getting 8.10 drivers instead of 9.1, if i go higher than 8.10 the crossfire option dissapears. Anyway i logged into wow today with crossfire enabled and it didnt look right. Everything was flashing a bunch. When i disabled crossfire i logged in and it looked fine. Would like to hear what you guys think about this

there is a hotfix to fix the crossfire issue when running 2 4850's (512mb flavor) in crossfire as far as CCC is concerned, so that way you can update your drivers and still use crossfire... I know I had to use it... kept getting restarts all the time without it. I think they incorporated it into 9.1 cuz I dont have the problem any more.

Mr.Guvernment · 02-12-09, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by henzo

WoW doesnt need crossfire, thats why. It will run on alot of cheap-o cards just fine lol. The in-town lag usually comes from server or internet lag, not graphics intensity.

With more add-ons the graphis lag is becoming more and more for people, many people used to be able to play it on MUCH lower systems, but with the new add-ons, they notice worse and worse FPS.

with all the updates WoW gets you would think they could add in some proper support for Xfire, considering the MASSIVE user base of this game, i am sure more then a few thousand people prob use Xfire out of the 9million users

henzo · 02-13-09, 01:36 AM

I hadn't thought about all the new content for WoW as I dont play it. It still looks like it can be playable on a weak system with settings accordingly though because of the "cartoony" graphics. The look of the game is what has kept me from it for all this time.

Mekks · 02-13-09, 02:19 AM

the new shader core just kills video cards now. they are over extending the old graphics of wow imho. 8.12 fix the shader flicker but crossfire/sli still lags in wow. my 4870x2.. crossfire "works" ie.. the logo will apear and both cards get some load but i still lag in raids/major towns. my single 4870 did better....

i really wish i didnt have the x2 and i was running two cards so i could disable one for wow.

DrSpanky · 02-13-09, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Gods_oMekone

the new shader core just kills video cards now. they are over extending the old graphics of wow imho. 8.12 fix the shader flicker but crossfire/sli still lags in wow. my 4870x2.. crossfire "works" ie.. the logo will apear and both cards get some load but i still lag in raids/major towns. my single 4870 did better....

i really wish i didnt have the x2 and i was running two cards so i could disable one for wow.

can you not just disable catalyist AI, and that will disable the crossfire on the x2 i have to do this for flatout ultimate carnage or my fps is crappy

Mekks · 02-13-09, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpanky

can you not just disable catalyist AI, and that will disable the crossfire on the x2 i have to do this for flatout ultimate carnage or my fps is crappy

ehh kinda, this does not fully disable the 2nd core.

ChillPhatCat · 02-13-09, 02:49 PM

I have to agree, crossfire is not needed at all for Wow... just a decent processor and a decent vid card... I get 60 FPS (the cap) with all detail maxed out @ 1680x1050, everywhere in WoW except for Dalaran where it can dip down to maybe 30 FPS with a lot of traffic. My card is getting a 16,600 in 3DMark06.

fast96se · 02-13-09, 03:51 PM

one of the guys in my guild gets 130 fps in raids. His rig isnt anything too special, hes get a core 2 duo @ 3.2, 8 gigs of ram, and two 9800 gtx's running SLI

ChillPhatCat · 02-14-09, 01:50 AM

Heh... I just turned my vertical sync off to see what it would do... Highest was 248 FPS in Shadowmoon valley... 95 FPS in Shatt, ~60-80 for most of Northrend.

Wizzard005 · 01-15-11, 08:49 PM

I know this is a really old post, but I just built a new Rig running crossfire for World of warcraft and it does make a big difference.

I am running Two AMD 6970's. No matter where i am in the game I get 60FPS with ver sync on of course.

I am playing wow at 2560x1600 at ultra on everything.

My old system I have a GTX 470, with you could not run everything on ultra, shadows had to be turned down for the game to run smooth ~ 60FPS

The only difference in crossfire is when raiding or mass pulls with lots of AOE spells there is no more "Lag" or Video slow down.

I hope this helps some people

I do have to say, SLI / Crossfire runs really hot

So if you build a computer, consider Water cooling the video cards....

GotNoRice · 01-16-11, 01:28 PM

World of Warcraft has not had any serious issues with crossfire for quite some time. I think the last issue I can recall was years ago back when I was still running 4850s in crossfire. They introduced the new shadows engine and it didn't work with crossfire, but simply lowering that slider a few notches would have it using the older engine which still worked fine. Several months later the new shadows engine was also working properly with crossfire and that was the last big issue I've ever had.

World of Warcraft even works well with quad crossfire, with better scaling than many games.

thideras · 01-16-11, 01:38 PM

Yeah, patch 3.0 absolutely destroyed SLi and Crossfire setups with that update. I just don't want to take the risk and have performance issues while rendering the game unplayable. The game is so CPU bound, there isn't really a reason for multiple cards.

02-12-09, 07:12 PM	Thread Starter #1
fast96se Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Idaho	Crossfire with World of warcraft I just got my crossfire to work. My fix was updated my mobo bios and getting 8.10 drivers instead of 9.1, if i go higher than 8.10 the crossfire option dissapears. Anyway i logged into wow today with crossfire enabled and it didnt look right. Everything was flashing a bunch. When i disabled crossfire i logged in and it looked fine. Would like to hear what you guys think about this __________________ CPU: Q9550 @ 3.6GHz (425x8.5) 1.25v (Air cooled) MoBo: Asus Maximus II Formula Ram: 2x2gb Corsair xms DDR2 800 GPU Single ATI Radeon 4890 Case NZXT Apollo
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02-12-09, 07:20 PM	#2
henzo Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Detroit	WoW doesnt need crossfire, thats why. It will run on alot of cheap-o cards just fine lol. The in-town lag usually comes from server or internet lag, not graphics intensity. __________________ CPU: Intel Core i7 920 @ 4.347 ghz (207x21) @ 1.41v Cooling: Thermalright 120 Ultra Extreme push/pull Ram: Dominator 3x1gb DDR3 1600 @1656mhz Graphics: 2x HIS HD4890 @ 1010c/1010m mobo: Gigibyte EX58-UD3R F6 Case: Beastly huge HAF 932 PSU: Corsair TX750w HDD: 80g WD and a 500g Barracuda Game Viewing Portal: HG281D @ 1920x1200 & HG216D "Notice how i'm not mad and he's mad. That's being a d ick."
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02-12-09, 08:35 PM	Thread Starter #3
fast96se Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Idaho	well yea wow doesnt need it but why am i getting this problem, id rather not have to disable/enable crossfire when switching between games. __________________ CPU: Q9550 @ 3.6GHz (425x8.5) 1.25v (Air cooled) MoBo: Asus Maximus II Formula Ram: 2x2gb Corsair xms DDR2 800 GPU Single ATI Radeon 4890 Case NZXT Apollo
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02-12-09, 08:54 PM	#4
vixro Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Denver	Don't use crossfire with WoW. Not needed and just causes problems. It's like trying to enable crossfire for Diablo II and not expecting problems. You can't expect new technology to work with extremely old technology all the time. You said it flashes with crossfire on, works with it off. Logical solution is to play it with crossfire off right? You don't lose any performance. __________________ Intel i7-2600K @ 45x100 (4.5ghz) 1.36v G.Skill Ripjaw Z 4x4GB 2134mhz @ DDR3-1068 9-11-10-27-2T - 1.65v ASRock Z68 Extreme4 1.70 Gigabyte GTX 680 2GB @ 1250mhz / 7030mhz Auzen X-Fi Prelude 7.1 on Cardas recabled HD580 Little Dot MKIII Headphone Amplifier (Cardas mini-RCA IC) Silverstone DA750 750w PSU heatware
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02-12-09, 09:48 PM	#5
Will.C New Member Join Date: Feb 2009	The blinking/flickering problem that you have in WoW is indeed a known bug when running crossfire. However, Catalyst 8.12 and further have resolved this issue. Under resolved issues in 8.12, it states: "Setting shadow quality to high or medium may cause flickering in World of Warcraft" If you are experiencing Catalyst issues, you may want to try the 8.12 hotfix drivers If you are unable to get catalyst drivers to install, make sure both HD 4850's have the same bios version. If only 8.10 works, 1) run the game in window mode 2) disable crossfire 4) disable Catalyst AI or 4) set shadow quality to the lowest setting With the brief time i've had with WoW, i can confrim that the latest patch fixes the flickering. Although i am able to see gpu load on both cards, crossfire offers no improvement over a single card, but at least crossfire is compatible now.
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02-13-09, 01:36 AM	#8
henzo Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Detroit	I hadn't thought about all the new content for WoW as I dont play it. It still looks like it can be playable on a weak system with settings accordingly though because of the "cartoony" graphics. The look of the game is what has kept me from it for all this time. __________________ CPU: Intel Core i7 920 @ 4.347 ghz (207x21) @ 1.41v Cooling: Thermalright 120 Ultra Extreme push/pull Ram: Dominator 3x1gb DDR3 1600 @1656mhz Graphics: 2x HIS HD4890 @ 1010c/1010m mobo: Gigibyte EX58-UD3R F6 Case: Beastly huge HAF 932 PSU: Corsair TX750w HDD: 80g WD and a 500g Barracuda Game Viewing Portal: HG281D @ 1920x1200 & HG216D "Notice how i'm not mad and he's mad. That's being a d ick." Last edited by henzo; 02-13-09 at 04:06 PM.
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02-13-09, 02:19 AM	#9
Mekks Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York	the new shader core just kills video cards now. they are over extending the old graphics of wow imho. 8.12 fix the shader flicker but crossfire/sli still lags in wow. my 4870x2.. crossfire "works" ie.. the logo will apear and both cards get some load but i still lag in raids/major towns. my single 4870 did better.... i really wish i didnt have the x2 and i was running two cards so i could disable one for wow. __________________ CPU-----------------------Intel 2600k@4.6 MOTHERBOARD---------Asus p8z68-v Pro/Gen 3 MEMORY-----------------G.Skill (2 x 4GB) DDR3 2133Mhz COOLING----------------Corsair H100 CASE---------------------Corsair 650D VIDEO--------------------Sapphire 7950 OC (1100/1575) MONITOR----------------BenQ FP241VW STORAGE----------------120GB Intel 520 (OS), 2x 64GB Super Talent Ultra Drive ME Raid 0 (Games), 1x WD Black 1TB (Storage) POWER------------------Corsair-850HX Heatware :beer:
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ChillPhatCat Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ballston Spa, NY	I have to agree, crossfire is not needed at all for Wow... just a decent processor and a decent vid card... I get 60 FPS (the cap) with all detail maxed out @ 1680x1050, everywhere in WoW except for Dalaran where it can dip down to maybe 30 FPS with a lot of traffic. My card is getting a 16,600 in 3DMark06.
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02-13-09, 03:51 PM	Thread Starter #13
fast96se Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Idaho	one of the guys in my guild gets 130 fps in raids. His rig isnt anything too special, hes get a core 2 duo @ 3.2, 8 gigs of ram, and two 9800 gtx's running SLI __________________ CPU: Q9550 @ 3.6GHz (425x8.5) 1.25v (Air cooled) MoBo: Asus Maximus II Formula Ram: 2x2gb Corsair xms DDR2 800 GPU Single ATI Radeon 4890 Case NZXT Apollo
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02-14-09, 01:50 AM	#14
ChillPhatCat Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ballston Spa, NY	Heh... I just turned my vertical sync off to see what it would do... Highest was 248 FPS in Shadowmoon valley... 95 FPS in Shatt, ~60-80 for most of Northrend.
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01-15-11, 08:49 PM	#15
Wizzard005 Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kauai, Kapaa, HI	I know this is a really old post, but I just built a new Rig running crossfire for World of warcraft and it does make a big difference. I am running Two AMD 6970's. No matter where i am in the game I get 60FPS with ver sync on of course. I am playing wow at 2560x1600 at ultra on everything. My old system I have a GTX 470, with you could not run everything on ultra, shadows had to be turned down for the game to run smooth ~ 60FPS The only difference in crossfire is when raiding or mass pulls with lots of AOE spells there is no more "Lag" or Video slow down. I hope this helps some people I do have to say, SLI / Crossfire runs really hot So if you build a computer, consider Water cooling the video cards.... __________________ Thank you, Wizzard005 _________________ Core2 Duo E6400 @ 2.13Ghz @ 3.20Ghz 400x8 @1.41vcore \ CPU Cooler: Water Cooling - Custom setup \ Temps: (live in hawaii) 85f in the house 99.8% of the time \ CPU Temps: 37c/58-62c running prime95 x2 \ 2GB OCZ Reaper DDR2 800 4-4-4-15 \ 2 x 74BG SATA 300 10,000RPM HD's \ 2 x 500GB SATA 300 Backup HD 1 x 250 Movie Drive \ 2 x SLI nVidia eVGA 8800 GTS PCI Express Video 560/810 \ DELL 24.0" Widescreen LCD LAN Connection - Fiber from XO
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GotNoRice Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Pleasant Hill, CA	World of Warcraft has not had any serious issues with crossfire for quite some time. I think the last issue I can recall was years ago back when I was still running 4850s in crossfire. They introduced the new shadows engine and it didn't work with crossfire, but simply lowering that slider a few notches would have it using the older engine which still worked fine. Several months later the new shadows engine was also working properly with crossfire and that was the last big issue I've ever had. World of Warcraft even works well with quad crossfire, with better scaling than many games. __________________ Main Rig: i5-2500K @ 5Ghz - ASUS P8Z68-V - 2x EVGA Geforce GTX680 Superclocked in SLI - 16GB DDR3 1600 - X-Fi Titanium PCI-E - Crucial M4 128G - Antec TruePower Quattro 1000w - Corsair 800D LAN Rig: Q6600 @ 3.6Ghz - Gigabyte EP45-UD3P - 2x 4870x2 Quad-Crossfire - 6GB PC8500 - X-Fi XtremeMusic - Intel X25-M G2 80GB - Thermaltake Toughpower 1000w - Thermaltake Armor Jr. Server: Core i5 650 @ 3.85Ghz - Asus P7H55-M PRO - 12GB DDR3 - FSP 550w PSU
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