Thinking about an E8500

Rick James · 02-14-09, 07:16 PM

How hard would it be to hit 4ghz on water?

I7_Guru · 02-14-09, 08:13 PM

You would be able to easily hit 4ghz+ on air...

Steven-1979 · 02-14-09, 08:20 PM

easily

ratbuddy · 02-14-09, 08:49 PM

If you already have a Phenom 2 at 3.7ghz, you'd be chucking cash out the window, unless you just want to say your machine runs at 4ghz..

doz · 02-14-09, 10:11 PM

Im at 4.3 on water w/ a C0. Ive hit 4.5 w/ air on this CPU but my new board isnt handling it so well.

DarkFury · 02-14-09, 10:35 PM

buttering toast?

tester3000 · 02-14-09, 10:56 PM

You will probably be able to hit 4.5Ghz with water. I am running 4Ghz on air and the temp is not my limiting factor. My e8400 hit 50oC max load with a TRUE. But i need 1.41v to get that. I don't want to push any more voltage in it not because of degradation due to heat but because of degradation due to voltage.

So you answer would be: very easily

Rick James · 02-14-09, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ratbuddy

If you already have a Phenom 2 at 3.7ghz, you'd be chucking cash out the window, unless you just want to say your machine runs at 4ghz..

I'm kinda bored with the phenom and thinking about getting back into intel. It was a mistake going with an X4. Its totally unnecessary for what i do on a daily basis.

Anyone have any 4ghz E8500 benchmarks?

Rick James · 02-15-09, 04:34 AM

What kind of memory do i need to run with the E8500? DDR2 1066?

jason4207 · 02-15-09, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick James

What kind of memory do i need to run with the E8500? DDR2 1066?

Depends on the motherboard.

I'd suggest sticking w/ DDR2. DDR2-1066 will allow you to go up to 533FSB w/o having to worry about too much.

doz · 02-15-09, 01:47 PM

Unless you want to run something like 445x9.5 then go w/ some 4-4-4-12 800mhz ram thatll do 900mhz so you get the lower ram timings.

Id rather have the higher FSB and looser 5-5-5-15 timings though.

mattspalace · 02-15-09, 04:11 PM

You need the board in my sig if you're going with an e8500, then get some DDR2-1066 and you'll be set for some silly-high FSB action. 8x533 was cake with my setup; probably will head to ~8x550 before I call it good enough.

If you can swing it, I'd get an e8600 too. They come up on the classies pretty often for under $200. Typically proven good clockers as well.

ghost_recon88 · 02-15-09, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mattspalace

You need the board in my sig if you're going with an e8500, then get some DDR2-1066 and you'll be set for some silly-high FSB action. 8x533 was cake with my setup; probably will head to ~8x550 before I call it good enough.

+1

The Gigabyte EP45-UD3P is an excellent LGA775 board

Rick James · 02-15-09, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mattspalace

You need the board in my sig if you're going with an e8500, then get some DDR2-1066 and you'll be set for some silly-high FSB action. 8x533 was cake with my setup; probably will head to ~8x550 before I call it good enough.

If you can swing it, I'd get an e8600 too. They come up on the classies pretty often for under $200. Typically proven good clockers as well.

Matt,

Do you have any numbers floating around? 1M Super pi times? Would really love to see what a C2D can do at 4ghz+

mattspalace · 02-15-09, 05:30 PM

Heh, I just ran some numbers today for kicks.. I didn't keep any, but my 1M SuperPI time was just a touch over 11 seconds.

e8600 is nice because you get the added benefit of the 10x multi vs the e8500 9.5x - just more options with a 10x multi..

oh I'll just go run it real quick - i'm on my laptop right now.

Back!

11.049 seconds to be exact for the 1M SuperPI run.

doz · 02-15-09, 05:32 PM

I did 10.5 seconds SP 1M @ 4.5ghz w/ my E8400.

If you are shooting for 533 FSB, theres no point in spending the extra money on an E8500 or E8600 if you can get an E0 stepped 8400. You probably wont be running 533x9 as it is.

mattspalace · 02-15-09, 05:34 PM

You will love this board. It's easily in the top three boards I've ever owned. Don't let the low price fool you; there are plenty of $200 boards that don't overclock nearly as well, or as easily.

Doz is correct as well; you really don't need any better than an E0 e8400 if you're looking for 4GHz.

Rick James · 02-15-09, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mattspalace

Heh, I just ran some numbers today for kicks.. I didn't keep any, but my 1M SuperPI time was just a touch over 11 seconds.

e8600 is nice because you get the added benefit of the 10x multi vs the e8500 9.5x - just more options with a 10x multi..

oh I'll just go run it real quick - i'm on my laptop right now.

Back!

11.049 seconds to be exact for the 1M SuperPI run.

My 3.8ghz Phenom 2 can only do the 1M test in 18.719s. Sad.. Thanks guys. I'm going to fry's soon. They don't have the E8600 so i'll have to settle for the E8500 for now.

Rick James · 02-15-09, 05:49 PM

Next question. What are the best overclocking chipsets on the intel side?

doz · 02-15-09, 05:59 PM

P45.

As matt said, the UD3P board is a great board. I tried the DS3L from gigabyte (p45 based as well) and hated it personally. Its the 2nd Gigabyte Ive tried and I just dont like them.

I love the P5Q though (Asus) and its P45 as well. Its all preference. UD3P and P5Q-Pro are 2 of the best choices you can make. If you want to spend more, you can get the P5Q-Deluxe, but I would just go w/ the pro unless you plan on going 5ghz+

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Rick James Disabled Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Tempe, Az	What kind of memory do i need to run with the E8500? DDR2 1066?
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doz Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV	Unless you want to run something like 445x9.5 then go w/ some 4-4-4-12 800mhz ram thatll do 900mhz so you get the lower ram timings. Id rather have the higher FSB and looser 5-5-5-15 timings though. __________________ Asus P8P67 Intel i7-2600k @ 4.9ghz GSkill Ripjaws 8gb 1600mhz c8 EVGA GTX 680 OCZ Agility 2 240gb, Corsair Force 3 180gb, (2)WD 1tb Black HAF 932w/ Corsair HX750 Heat
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mattspalace I been Dolk'ed Senior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stuttgart, Germany	You need the board in my sig if you're going with an e8500, then get some DDR2-1066 and you'll be set for some silly-high FSB action. 8x533 was cake with my setup; probably will head to ~8x550 before I call it good enough. If you can swing it, I'd get an e8600 too. They come up on the classies pretty often for under $200. Typically proven good clockers as well. __________________ Case: Cooler Master HAF XM Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V RAM: G-Skill Ripjaws X-Series 16GB DDR3-1600 SSD: 2 X 120GB Kingston Hyper-X 3K in RAID-0 CPU: Intel i7 3770K @ 4.2GHz - 1.18V CPU Cooler: Thermaltake Water 2.0 Extreme Video Card: EVGA GTX 670 FTW Edition PSU: Corsair AX-750 Monitor: Dell U2410 Last edited by mattspalace; 02-15-09 at 04:21 PM.
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mattspalace I been Dolk'ed Senior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stuttgart, Germany	Heh, I just ran some numbers today for kicks.. I didn't keep any, but my 1M SuperPI time was just a touch over 11 seconds. e8600 is nice because you get the added benefit of the 10x multi vs the e8500 9.5x - just more options with a 10x multi.. oh I'll just go run it real quick - i'm on my laptop right now. Back! 11.049 seconds to be exact for the 1M SuperPI run. __________________ Case: Cooler Master HAF XM Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V RAM: G-Skill Ripjaws X-Series 16GB DDR3-1600 SSD: 2 X 120GB Kingston Hyper-X 3K in RAID-0 CPU: Intel i7 3770K @ 4.2GHz - 1.18V CPU Cooler: Thermaltake Water 2.0 Extreme Video Card: EVGA GTX 670 FTW Edition PSU: Corsair AX-750 Monitor: Dell U2410
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doz Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV	I did 10.5 seconds SP 1M @ 4.5ghz w/ my E8400. If you are shooting for 533 FSB, theres no point in spending the extra money on an E8500 or E8600 if you can get an E0 stepped 8400. You probably wont be running 533x9 as it is. __________________ Asus P8P67 Intel i7-2600k @ 4.9ghz GSkill Ripjaws 8gb 1600mhz c8 EVGA GTX 680 OCZ Agility 2 240gb, Corsair Force 3 180gb, (2)WD 1tb Black HAF 932w/ Corsair HX750 Heat
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mattspalace I been Dolk'ed Senior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stuttgart, Germany	You will love this board. It's easily in the top three boards I've ever owned. Don't let the low price fool you; there are plenty of $200 boards that don't overclock nearly as well, or as easily. Doz is correct as well; you really don't need any better than an E0 e8400 if you're looking for 4GHz. __________________ Case: Cooler Master HAF XM Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V RAM: G-Skill Ripjaws X-Series 16GB DDR3-1600 SSD: 2 X 120GB Kingston Hyper-X 3K in RAID-0 CPU: Intel i7 3770K @ 4.2GHz - 1.18V CPU Cooler: Thermaltake Water 2.0 Extreme Video Card: EVGA GTX 670 FTW Edition PSU: Corsair AX-750 Monitor: Dell U2410 Last edited by mattspalace; 02-15-09 at 05:39 PM.
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Rick James Disabled Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Tempe, Az	Next question. What are the best overclocking chipsets on the intel side?
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02-15-09, 05:59 PM	#20
doz Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV	P45. As matt said, the UD3P board is a great board. I tried the DS3L from gigabyte (p45 based as well) and hated it personally. Its the 2nd Gigabyte Ive tried and I just dont like them. I love the P5Q though (Asus) and its P45 as well. Its all preference. UD3P and P5Q-Pro are 2 of the best choices you can make. If you want to spend more, you can get the P5Q-Deluxe, but I would just go w/ the pro unless you plan on going 5ghz+ __________________ Asus P8P67 Intel i7-2600k @ 4.9ghz GSkill Ripjaws 8gb 1600mhz c8 EVGA GTX 680 OCZ Agility 2 240gb, Corsair Force 3 180gb, (2)WD 1tb Black HAF 932w/ Corsair HX750 Heat
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