[hellgate]

hi guys

This is my 1st post here.i've as prob of sorts.hes my sys config:
1>abit IP35-E
2>2*1GB DDR2 667 @ 800
3>XFX GTX 275
4>Corsair TX750
5>HP 2309m fullHD lcd

hav a Pentium Dual Core E5200 that does upto 3.6GHz stable.anything more & system wont boot into OS even @ 1.55v vcore.hav spoken with my vendor & he has agreed to take back that chip.currently using myfrnds E7300 (M0 stepping) & its doing 4.1GHz stable on air.
the thing is :
is the E5200 @ 3.6GHz a bottleneck for the GTX 275 while gaming @ 1920x1080 with every setting maxxed out?sud i keep the E5200 or get a new proccy?
if i hafta get a new proccy which 1 amongst these wud be the best choice:
1>E7400
2>E8400
3>Q8200 (personally dont lik h)
4>Q9400.

Plz hlp me out in deciding the procc.

Tnx & Regards,
Hellgate

[BobbyBubblehead]

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Guess i`ll read your post now

[BobbyBubblehead]

well for the first two my concern would be the future proof aspect, there starting to program for at least four cores so with them your GTX275 isnt going to be happy for long, you wont be clocking Quads to the same kind of speeds either. but it wont fall apart when the multicore programming kicks in.

think I would look for a cheap quad if I felt I had to do something. otherwise save your spend for when I7`s premium falls off.

I dont have the experience with much other than a Q66 for current form factor stuff though so wait `n see what the cavalry has to say

[jason4207]

Only problem w/ the IP35-E is that Abit no longer makes or supports their mobos. I'm not sure which CPUs are officially supported and which aren't with their last BIOS release.

My 1st choice would be E8400 E0, but I don't think E0 is supported officially.

Next up would be E7400, but the E5200 should perform admirably at 3.6GHz.

[Max47]

If you have $500 you can spend. I would ditch the memory mobo and processor.. Just a thought
Core i7 920 $200
Foxconn Mobo$210 or Gigabyte Mobo$200
Gskill 6gigs$95

[hellgate]

so sud i keep the E5200?or get a new cpu?my main concern is whther the E5200 is being a bottleneck @ 3.6GHz

[Max47]

Originally Posted by hellgate

so sud i keep the E5200?or get a new cpu?my main concern is whther the E5200 is being a bottleneck @ 3.6GHz

If what you have meets the needs of what you use it for then I would leave it as is until it does not and prices drop If you NEED or want to upgrade I would definately go with i7 platform.

[crosshairs]

Out of the 4 chips you listed, I would go E8400....
if you want to go quad,look for a nice used Q6600,my thoughts are its gonna be better than the Q8200 or Q9400, plus your board may not support the new quads....

[hellgate]

Originally Posted by Max47

If what you have meets the needs of what you use it for then I would leave it as is until it does not and prices drop If you NEED or want to upgrade I would definately go with i7 platform.

i use my pc mainly for gaming. @ 1920x1080 th everything maxxedout.so wud the E5200 @ 3.6GHz be a bottleneck for the GTX 275 in these conditions while gaming?

[Max47]

Originally Posted by hellgate

i use my pc mainly for gaming. @ 1920x1080 th everything maxxedout.so wud the E5200 @ 3.6GHz be a bottleneck for the GTX 275 in these conditions while gaming?

I would have to do some research on that card and even Nvidia in general since I have switched back to ATI and haven't owned an Nvidia card in years The last processor I bought before my i7 rig was a P4 Prescott(aside from my dell laptops)... I can't make an educated opinion on that..

But you should expect to have many good years of use out of an i7 rig especially if you upgrade it from time to time.. And the 1366 offers the best processors on the market.

[Bon3thugz43v3r]

Originally Posted by hellgate

i use my pc mainly for gaming. @ 1920x1080 th everything maxxedout.so wud the E5200 @ 3.6GHz be a bottleneck for the GTX 275 in these conditions while gaming?

Yes you would benefit from at least 4.0 ghz. I have a gtx275 and an e8400 that I run at 3.5ghz or 4.0ghz depending on heat. Although I play at 1680x1050,the extra 500mhz gives me another 10fps average in Call of Duty World at War. In World in Conflict it gives me about 8fps average more when clocked at 4.0ghz from 3.5ghz. I would say go for the e8400 now and then upgrade to the i7 down the road.

[Max47]

Originally Posted by Bon3thugz43v3r

I would say go for the e8400 now and then upgrade to the i7 down the road.

As you can see everyone has thier own opinions and motives this is where you would have to weigh your options.. I like to compare, compete, and share with fellow overclockers out there.. So for me to grab one of the newest rigs available satisfies all my gaming and upgradability needs, as well as lets me "join the i7 club" so to speak and share my experiences with others. Above all do what meets your budget and needs.

[Bon3thugz43v3r]

Originally Posted by Max47

As you can see everyone has thier own opinions and motives this is where you would have to weigh your options.. I like to compare, compete, and share with fellow overclockers out there.. So for me to grab one of the newest rigs available satisfies all my gaming and upgradability needs, as well as lets me "join the i7 club" so to speak and share my experiences with others. Above all do what meets your budget and needs.

My main concern is answering the guys question. He wants to know if 3.6ghz is a bottle neck with his core 2 duo and his gtx275.

A lot more money is involved to upgrade to i7. New board, new memory, new cpu and maybe even a new power supply. I am aware that the i7 is great, I wish I had one myself.

[Max47]

Originally Posted by Bon3thugz43v3r

My main concern is answering the guys question. He wants to know if 3.6ghz is a bottle neck with his core 2 duo and his gtx275.

A lot more money is involved to upgrade to i7. New board, new memory, new cpu and maybe even a new power supply. I am aware that the i7 is great, I wish I had one myself.

Right, I was just suggesting it as an alternate option that would solve any issues performance wise on the CPU side.. sorry to push i7s..

Originally Posted by hellgate

hav spoken with my vendor & he has agreed to take back that chip.currently using myfrnds E7300

This is under the assumption that you do still have your original chip?

Hellgate, What I would do is since you said you had access to your friends E7300, use that and your E5200, test your games against each processor... Try using 3dmark and seeing what the performance difference is... that should give you a better idea of what you will get from upgrading your CPU than anyone can suggest.

[jmdixon85]

I don't think the E5200 should hold you back much. Atleast not until most games support 4 cores or more. U've been unlucky getting one that only runs at 3.6Ghz tho. Those chips can normally go to 4+ghz with a good cooler. I mean I've even got my old 65nm E4600 upto 3.52Ghz @ 1.47 Vcore

[hellgate]

Originally Posted by Max47

Hellgate, What I would do is since you said you had access to your friends E7300, use that and your E5200, test your games against each processor... Try using 3dmark and seeing what the performance difference is... that should give you a better idea of what you will get from upgrading your CPU than anyone can suggest.

hav done that.diff is bout 8-10 fps in 3dmark in avg with te E7300 4GHz & 15fps with E7300 @ 4.3GHz.
but in games not getting more than 60fps with fps dropping to 40s too.(more so with the E5200).
regarding i7 do hav a i7 920 bsed rig that i got way back in Dec 2008 but the prob is my cousin has managed to kill the mobo.dont hav that much moolah to get a EVGA X58 Classified now.

[Max47]

I would say you have answered your own question then
As far as your FPS in game, that can be because of a number of things.. Drivers, GPU, CPU, poorly coded game, etc. I get down to 10fps sometimes with DCS blackshark ... The game was made for multiple core's or even Hyperthreading... I have to set the CPU affinity with a tool before I boot the game.. and GTA4 it has decent frame rate but ever few seconds it get jumpy.. kinda annoying but I like the gameplay so I ignore it..

But all and all... You have a better CPU in and you have seen an increase in performance.. if you put in a CPU that clocks higher or has more cores you are likely to see a similar increase. The decision would be: if you think XXX amount of dollars is worth the increase you see and predict according to what you buy.. the go for it

[hellgate]

thnx for the help guys.shall get the E8400 2day evening.lemme see how far i can get it on air cooling.