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Has anyone tried the Innovatek water blocks? And does anyone know where to get them? Also what water blocks do you all use. I'm thinking about getting the DangerDen Maze-2.
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Henry Rollins II said:You must have got that wrong somehow, I read the test and Innovatek whoop Swiftec´s *** real good.
read it:
http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/02q1/020102/index.html
regards,
Henry.
Henry Rollins II said:
Third: I think it is quite pathetic to hear stuff like: "I wouldn´t trust that idiot Tom blablabla..." . Toms Hardware has a quite large staff employed that does nothing but benchmark and test computer stuff all day long. I really don´t think amatuers with a slighly religious point of view of overclocking have enough on their feet to rack down on them. How much stuff did u test and benchmark? How much did you hear from somebody else?
regards,
Henry.
Henry Rollins II said:
First of all: Tom doesn´t make any tests anymore. Tomshardware.com has a staff of about 20 people.
Second: I don´t think the scale of the charts are correct in terms of relation to a real cpu. But they do show the performance difference between the two systems.
Third: I think it is quite pathetic to hear stuff like: "I wouldn´t trust that idiot Tom blablabla..." . Toms Hardware has a quite large staff employed that does nothing but benchmark and test computer stuff all day long. I really don´t think amatuers with a slighly religious point of view of overclocking have enough on their feet to rack down on them. How much stuff did u test and benchmark? How much did you hear from somebody else?
regards,
Henry.
f155mph said:
Nothing against you personally but did you look at the testing unit he use to conduct the test??? It from innovatech, take a look here for your self: http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/02q1/020102/watercooling-08.html
Notice it have the company name stamp on it. Do you think he paid for that thing? Of course not, if they pay for everything they test, all the reviewers will be poor. Hence they wouldn't give it a bad review when someone give you a nice present like that.
VashTheStampede said:
Just because Best Buy's Computer Repair section employs more than 1 person does not automatically make them smart. Just because they are employed in a field of computers does not make them any smarter than your average computer illiterate person..
Henry Rollins II said:
Yes, but we aint talkning about "Best Buy´s Computer repair" here. Tomshardware is THE leading source for testing and benchmarking computer hardware on the internet, and has been so for a looong time.
regards,
Henry.
VashTheStampede said:
Tomshardware is THE misleading source for testing and benchmarking computer hardware on the internet. Like when testing the Duron against the Celeron. He used SDRAM on the Celeron, to be fair he should of used SDRAM for the Duron too, but did he? NOPE! He used DDR! In every non-memory bandwidth related benchmark he posted, the Celeron came out on top, but who did he declare the winner? The Duron.
The fun does not stop there. In his first Koolance review he ran the system overspec and underpowered and blamed Koolance, striking it down as a poor system, due to his and his own staff lack of mental capability.
Probably in the most recent act of biasness, is the fact he said he wouldn't change the FSB on the P4 he tested, saying changing the FSB would make the system unstable in any system, but what did he do on the XP? Change the FSB and overclock it.
He, and his staff, is biased towards Intel and Nvidia, all of his comparison reviews are dripping with it. Hell I just got through reading his 8500 vs Ti500 comparison, COULD HE GET ANY MORE ATI and RADEON IMAGES IN A SINGLE REVIEW!! Hell I don't think I remember seeing any Nvidia graphics except for that one tiny banner at the top. He worships ATI, in that review he was saying stuff like "Even though this 8500 was an early test model I managed to get the core to 300MHz and memory to 620MHz". Anyword about the Ti500? Nope, went right to the Radeon-image laden benchmarks. Did he use any other tests other than Quake3? Nope.
Any true comparison INVOLVES MULTIPLE BENCHMARKS!!!!!!!!! I know the 8500 is good, but Tom and his staff need to be a GREAT DEAL less biased and stop rigging benchmarks in the favor of their favorite thing at the time.
~Vash~
Henry Rollins II said:
Wow, that was long, see if I can narrow it down a bit.
1. Koolance: Shortly after the review, Koolance completely reworked their case. Would they have done this if it were without flaws?
2. By your sig I can tell that you have a Duron with PC100 memory and a GF3 card. That would mean that you are angry with Toms hardware because they tested the Duron with DDR and rate the 8500 higher than the GF3?
3. What would the point of testing the Duron with SDRAM be? Who is likely to buy a Duron? Somebody who has an Athlon socket A with SDRAM memory and wish to "down-grade"? Why would anyone buy a Duron and a new mobo with SDRAM? DDR and SDRAM is about the same price.
4. Tomshardware also made a giant-test of GF3 cards, and has stated that the Ti200 is the best buy in it´s pricerange. Is this in favor of the Radeon 7500?
regards,
Henry.
hpotter said:Has anyone tried the Innovatek water blocks? And does anyone know where to get them? Also what water blocks do you all use. I'm thinking about getting the DangerDen Maze-2.
Thanks