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Downcore that CPU
This is an experiment that I have been wanting to do for some time. I want to downcore my CPU and OC it. I have not read much research on it, and I don't think a lot of people are willing to try it. So, if you have read anything, please let me know. I'm most likely going to try this out come this Saturday. EDIT 1: Charts! System Setup: Phenom II 940 BE M4A79-T Deluxe 4870 512 Asus Matrix Cat 9.7 Windows XP 32bit SP3 Wprime 1024 ![]() Cinebench ![]() Crysis ![]() SuperPi 1M ![]() Wprime 32 ![]() The max speed recorded was 4.3ghz, this was done on Dry Ice. With each step down I was able to play around with the CPU-NB a bit more and the overall speed more. But nothing to significant. I blame this mostly on the fact that I couldn't get the temp below -20C. As for what I received with results, I must say they are not what I expected. On whole I believed that the SuperPi 1M was going to be much different. What I'm not surprised is the scale with Wprime and Cinebench. These programs rely a lot on the number cores on the CPU. As for the Crysis graph, I'll help explain how it is setup. The first bar dictates the min FPS, the second set of bars dictates the max FPS, and the last set of bars dictates the average FPS. Note that in some cases, Crysis was slower when it should have been much faster. Since most of this was done consistantly in the same day, I believe that this is just an error with the software rather than something with the hardware. In conclusion of these preliminary tests, I can see that the number of cores, when applied to the right application, will due its part along with how fast it is. Basically its doing what it is suppose to do. The next update will show how fast I can push 1 core, 2 core, and 3 core. This will come some time after I get my LN2 ![]()
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I would help but Im not entirely sure what the word "Downcore" means. Unless you are trying to say disable 1,2,3 cores of a quad and overclock a single core? Its been done before without a doubt as one core is usually for some reason stronger. I just remember posts saying, "yeah thats nice, but what about the other cores". Im looking for your ATI results regarding vantage and PPU from that other thread. I did some work on it but dont have an ATI card to confirm. ![]()
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oh lols, that won't happen until this weekend as well, or tonight. Depends on the GF factor with the X,Y Parent Principlie that is overall being controlled by the Fate theory. And yes I do mean disabling cores I come up with strange and sometimes un-needed words that describe some action.
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Down Core: Term coined by Dr. Dolk OC.
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with all this respect, I wonder if i can make a cult... Quick Mods, make me a channel just for people to praise me!
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Can someone tell me how to do this? ![]() |
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why in the world would u wanna do this???
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You do it using the ACC feature in the BIOS. The reason to do it? Who knows, it could bring about better performance, it could some how destroy my CPU, it could bring back the originial Pirate Bay. All of wich I some how want but probably won't happen. I'll be working on this project for the rest of the week so make sure to come back and read ![]()
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I still doubt this will be a very good idea. Even if you can disable or down core one of the cores, you will still probably get a very small increase in top speed by doing so and in order to make a difference in any applications the increase would probably have to be larger than 100 or so mhz.
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Ah,i think i get you,you want to shut off some cores to see what speeds the actually cores can do individually to see if its worth getting better cooling.
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Its not just about cooling, but about everything that comprises the CPU itself. I did my first round of tests, started off with 1 core. I'll be posting my results later today in my first post, so keep an eye out for that. What I can say is that there is some changes that you guys may like ![]()
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^ Cool I will be waiting on the results and maybe I will downcore my 3 cores to 2!
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To tinker and mess around with things just for the heck of it.
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Be careful of using a single core with windows. I know at least with XP it was an issue where if you went from a multi-cored PC to a single one and back to multi (turing HT off, or if there was 2 CPU's in the system) it would error out due to the hal.dll being switched and needing to copy it back into the system32 directory (the proper multi-threaded hal.dll that is). Just word of warning.
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Like i have mentioned, I have only seen it for benchmarking purposes to eek that extra, for example, .1 second in Superpi for some boints. Power consumption/savings would be negligable to me b/c if that is breaking the bank, you have other issues to deal with. Im still looking forward to the results though. ![]()
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I can say that the power and temps were dramatically lowered, but is to be expected due to 3 cores being turned off. As far as benchmarking... well lets say I still got a long way to go. Now were did I leave that dri ice...?
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I'm in! Awwww, no popcorn smilie ... ![]()
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So I have Dice runs planned for tomorrow. Tonight I'll be posting my intial WC runs. So far things have been working great, and the results are so far consistant.
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Sweet. Before you do all that jazz, how about the PhysX runs? Those would take 20 minutes.
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Fun experiment Dolk. Never thought about trying it myself (I am more of the mind of trying to get MORE cores out of my CPUs ) lol Will be interesting to see your results though and how much of a differnce you can make ![]() Have you already isolated your strongest core? Or are you just going with core0?
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I still need to post the pics, but I can say that there was only a 100 or 1000 points difference. Which means it didn't help or hurt at all. I'll post those as well tonight @Nec: I have not isolated which core is the strongest just yet. I hope to do that tonight.
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![]() Should be some interesting results!
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So I left work real late yesterday. I was not able to do any testing yesterday, so again no updates. Most likely none until next week ![]() Sorry to disaopint most of you guys. Please make sure to subscribe!
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So what are you saying - your work is interfering with overclocking?!? Man, you gotta' get a different job! ![]() BTW - What are you doing this summer, something career related I hope ...?
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Network Intern... Not really part of the Computer Engineering programm but it pays pretty well ![]()
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Here ya go Dolk, this is my 940 on just 2 cores, didn't touch anything but raise the multiplier one step ! ![]() ![]() Haven't run any stability tests yet but it seem solid !
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