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Brolloks · 09-22-09, 04:54 PM

I think the time has come to strectch the X 8 PCIe lanes and see how it does against dual X 16 lanes.

For this comparison I will use two HD 5870's .... run it on a i7-920 X58 platform and then compare that to a i5-750 P55 platform.

P 55 System :

Motherboard : Asus P7P55D Pro

GPU's : 2 x BFG GTX 285 OC - SLI // 2 x XFX HD5870 CrossFire

RAM : G.Skill 2 x 2gb DDR3-1600 7-8-7-20

HDD : Western Digital Raptor 74gb

OS : Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit

Cooling : TRUE 120

PSU : NorthQ 850W

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X 58 System :

Motherboard : Asrock X58 Extreme

GPU's : 2 x BFG GTX 285 OC - SLI // 2 x XFX HD5870 CrossFire

RAM : G.Skill 2 x 2gb DDR3-1600 7-8-7-20

HDD : Western Digital Raptor 74gb

OS : Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit

Cooling : Zalman CNPS Extreme

PSU : Mushkin 850W

Brolloks · 09-22-09, 04:54 PM

Windows 7 - 64 Bit OS -- Nvidia 190.26 drivers

Brolloks · 09-22-09, 04:55 PM

Windows 7 - 64 Bit OS -- Nvidia 190.26 drivers

Brolloks · 09-22-09, 04:56 PM

Graphs

Brolloks · 09-22-09, 04:56 PM

Reserved 4

jamesman32 · 09-22-09, 05:02 PM

Cant wait to see this thread once you've got you 5870s. I'm gonna try to order 1 tonight...

xtkxhom3r · 09-22-09, 06:51 PM

oh man i cant wait for this one!

thanks for taking the time to test everything brolloks

ratbuddy · 09-22-09, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by xtkxhom3r

thanks for taking the time to test everything brolloks

I don't think he can help himself

Dolk · 09-22-09, 07:48 PM

Where did you get these, and how come they are not mine?

w2richwood · 09-22-09, 07:50 PM

i know you injoy doing this brolloks but thanks for sharing with us
Rich

Alien432 · 09-22-09, 08:03 PM

+1 subscribed

I'd bet x58 wins !

jgv115 · 09-22-09, 08:12 PM

You can send them to me after you are done. I have a special testing machine that compares every graphics card in the world.

jobrien2001 · 09-22-09, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brolloks

I think the time has come to strectch the X 8 PCIe lanes and see how it does against dual X 16 lanes.

For this comparison I will use two HD 5870's .... run it on a i7-920 X58 platform and then compare that to a i5-750 P55 platform.

Brolloks, i dunno if you would be willing to do 1 on a P35 single and CF setup? Not something as detailed as your usual reviews but just want to know if a p35 can keep up with a single 5870 card... CF probably not.

Brolloks · 09-22-09, 09:44 PM

P35 is as scarse as hen's teeth these days, will see what I can find.
The 5870 CF will just kill two X 4 lanes, no sense in doing that.

sandyduff · 09-23-09, 01:28 AM

Subscribed!!

Evilsizer · 09-23-09, 06:18 AM

O.o cant wait!

Shiggity · 09-23-09, 08:20 AM

Woooooo

Dolk · 09-23-09, 08:22 AM

Money on the P55, only if HT is off on i7 920 though.

OnDborder · 09-23-09, 09:34 AM

Brolloks you rule!
Subscribed

ghost_recon88 · 09-23-09, 12:34 PM

Lot's of potential here

jason4207 · 09-23-09, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jobrien2001

Brolloks, i dunno if you would be willing to do 1 on a P35 single and CF setup? Not something as detailed as your usual reviews but just want to know if a p35 can keep up with a single 5870 card... CF probably not.

As single 5870 should run fine on P35. If you can find anything showing a 4870X2 running on P35 that should give you a good idea of what to expect.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brolloks

P35 is as scarse as hen's teeth these days, will see what I can find.
The 5870 CF will just kill two X 4 lanes, no sense in doing that.

P35 is PCIe1.1 x16/x4 all the time. 1 card should be fine, but a 2nd card would be severely choked.

Can't wait to see your next review, bro! I remember the 3870X2 quad-fire review and the driver hunt.

Aztroth · 09-23-09, 02:20 PM

im most definitely subscribed to this one...

kyleboy77 · 09-23-09, 02:40 PM

I wonder if it would be a more fair battle if you were to disable the i7's hyperthreading and run the cpu's at the same clock speed. I know it may not make much of a difference, but it interests me.

Brolloks · 09-23-09, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jason4207

Can't wait to see your next review, bro! I remember the 3870X2 quad-fire review and the driver hunt.

Tell me about it, nearly got into some big trouble with that one

zangler · 09-23-09, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtkxhom3r

oh man i cant wait for this one!

thanks for taking the time to test everything brolloks

+1 !

Brolloks · 09-23-09, 03:53 PM

My order for the 5870's have been delayed, in the meantime I will run a set of gaming and synthetic bechmarks with two GTX 285 OC in SLI on the P55 board and then on a X58 board.

Once I get the two 5870's I will re-run to test the CF setups.

EarthDog · 09-23-09, 03:54 PM

This should show a negligable difference as the other similar tests showed yes? Only the GTX295/HD4870x2 cards are going to saturate the PCIe2.0 x8 bandwidth...

Dont get me wrong, carry on and all, but there are reviews out there already (though not with the 5870) showing this.

ghost_recon88 · 09-23-09, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EarthDog

This should show a negligable difference as the other similar tests showed yes? Only the GTX295/HD4870x2 cards are going to saturate the PCIe2.0 x8 bandwidth...

Dont get me wrong, carry on and all, but there are reviews out there already (though not with the 5870) showing this.

Better to have a review show for sure there is no bottlenecking them assume that just because the last gen cards don't, that the new gen cards won't as well.

EarthDog · 09-23-09, 04:41 PM

Agreed, like I said do it. But if its slower than the GTX295 and Hd4870x2 and those dont saturate the bandwidth, why would 5870?

ghost_recon88 · 09-23-09, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by EarthDog

Agreed, like I said do it. But if its slower than the GTX295 and Hd4870x2 and those dont saturate the bandwidth, why would 5870?

Keep dreaming about it being slower then HD 4870x2 and GTX295 in EVERY SINGLE test

09-22-09, 04:54 PM	#1
Brolloks Intel CPU and Mobo Lead Senior Benching Team Leader Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Houston, TX	HD 5870 CF - X58 vs P55 platform comparison I think the time has come to strectch the X 8 PCIe lanes and see how it does against dual X 16 lanes. For this comparison I will use two HD 5870's .... run it on a i7-920 X58 platform and then compare that to a i5-750 P55 platform. P 55 System : Motherboard : Asus P7P55D Pro GPU's : 2 x BFG GTX 285 OC - SLI // 2 x XFX HD5870 CrossFire RAM : G.Skill 2 x 2gb DDR3-1600 7-8-7-20 HDD : Western Digital Raptor 74gb OS : Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Cooling : TRUE 120 PSU : NorthQ 850W _____________________________________ X 58 System : Motherboard : Asrock X58 Extreme GPU's : 2 x BFG GTX 285 OC - SLI // 2 x XFX HD5870 CrossFire RAM : G.Skill 2 x 2gb DDR3-1600 7-8-7-20 HDD : Western Digital Raptor 74gb OS : Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Cooling : Zalman CNPS Extreme PSU : Mushkin 850W __________________ Should I get a Quad- or Dual-Core? - How about joining us in the Benching Lounge for some secrets Heatware Last edited by Brolloks; 09-25-09 at 10:57 PM.

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Brolloks Intel CPU and Mobo Lead Senior Benching Team Leader Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Houston, TX	P55 - Vantage and 3DMark06 Windows 7 - 64 Bit OS -- Nvidia 190.26 drivers __________________ Should I get a Quad- or Dual-Core? - How about joining us in the Benching Lounge for some secrets Heatware Last edited by Brolloks; 09-25-09 at 10:44 PM.

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EarthDog Intel CPU/Mobo Content Editor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: USA	This should show a negligable difference as the other similar tests showed yes? Only the GTX295/HD4870x2 cards are going to saturate the PCIe2.0 x8 bandwidth... Dont get me wrong, carry on and all, but there are reviews out there already (though not with the 5870) showing this. __________________ Evga P55 FTW / i7 860 @ 4Ghz, 1.33v (w/HT), (H2O) SSDs:30GB Vertex (OS) 60GB Summit (Games), 640GB WDCBlack, 410GB NAS GTX 470 @ 750/1500/1800 (stock v) / 4GB 1600Mhz Gskill Ripjaws @ 7-7-7-20 / X-Fi Extreme Gamer Acer 23" 1920x1080 / Seasonic X750 / Corsair Obsidian 800D MCP655 / MCR320 + PA120.2 / Fusion v1 / EK FC470 / MicroRes My HEATWARE C2D/C2Q Overclocking Guide / i7 Overclocking Guide/Info / Power Supply Guide Want to see your writing featured on the overclockers.com Front Page? PM me, I can help!

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EarthDog Intel CPU/Mobo Content Editor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: USA	Agreed, like I said do it. But if its slower than the GTX295 and Hd4870x2 and those dont saturate the bandwidth, why would 5870? __________________ Evga P55 FTW / i7 860 @ 4Ghz, 1.33v (w/HT), (H2O) SSDs:30GB Vertex (OS) 60GB Summit (Games), 640GB WDCBlack, 410GB NAS GTX 470 @ 750/1500/1800 (stock v) / 4GB 1600Mhz Gskill Ripjaws @ 7-7-7-20 / X-Fi Extreme Gamer Acer 23" 1920x1080 / Seasonic X750 / Corsair Obsidian 800D MCP655 / MCR320 + PA120.2 / Fusion v1 / EK FC470 / MicroRes My HEATWARE C2D/C2Q Overclocking Guide / i7 Overclocking Guide/Info / Power Supply Guide Want to see your writing featured on the overclockers.com Front Page? PM me, I can help!