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Old 12-01-09, 01:42 PM Thread Starter   #1
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Piracy, verizon and other stuff


I wasn't sure where to put this, so if it needs to be moved i understand.

I'll try and make a long story short, I was in a coma and my family had a friend move into my place to help take care of my dogs and pay the bills. While I was home bed ridden verizon flagged me for piracy twice (he downloaded monk and Heroes). I didn't find out for a few months when I set up my computer next to my bed.

I logged on to verizons site and i see a tab on the side bar "Copyrights Violation Notifications" and there I see both notifications. I talk to my friend and he say he will stop. I notice my internet slowing down so I confront him and end up kicking him out.

So I go one with my life and forget about the two "Copyright Violation Notifications", Verizon says in there FAQ "we will not provide your identity to a copyright owner without first receiving a subpoena or other legal process". So I figure no harm no foul.

A few months later my Aunt and mentally challenged cousin fall on hard times and move in. My house has a computer in almost every room, I set down simple rules and check the computers history once a week just to make sure.

Well my cousin unsupervised tried to download some stupid kids movie and I get another notification this time a level 3 "Auto-Dialer Call" in the action taken box and I am a little freaked out on what to do.

I was told sense the internet is in my name I am responsible.

I am just wondering if anyone has gone through this with verizon or another company and if so what happened?
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Old 12-01-09, 02:31 PM   #2
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Well..... how is verizon even detecting it? my isp does not look at what you download as its privacy infringement or something like that... Your best bet would be to get a firewall to block this stuff and show your isp you have made the proper changes to rectify the issue.
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Old 12-01-09, 02:47 PM   #3
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where do you log into see this Copyright Violation notification? verizon.net?

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Old 12-01-09, 02:56 PM   #4
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I see three choices, two of which require a smoothwall (or similar) box, between your modem and the rest of your network.

1. Set up a small-ish whitelist of sites that all computers can access (google.com, msn.com, nbc.com, youtube.com, etc.), and require a password to access any site not on the whitelist.

2. Use Blocklist Manager (or similar) to create an IP filter list to put on the smoothwall and block all non-port 80 traffic to those IPs, so that there is less likelihood of your so-called "friends" (would a real friend use your possessions so that you are implicated in illegal activity?) getting your IP tracked.

3. Tell your "friends" they aren't allowed to touch your computers and/or network.

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Old 12-01-09, 03:05 PM   #5
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how is verizon detecting what you are downloading?? as far as i know to download full movies you will need to use torrents or some kinda of p2p.. but im not aware on how they can detect what you are downloading.

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Old 12-01-09, 03:13 PM   #6
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Well..... how is verizon even detecting it? my isp does not look at what you download as its privacy infringement or something like that... Your best bet would be to get a firewall to block this stuff and show your isp you have made the proper changes to rectify the issue.
Your firewall does nothing, this is your ISP, they can sniff every packet of data it they wanted, encrypted or not.

The way they find out is the companies that are coming after you, simply get your IP from torrent trackers, when you connect to a torrent your IP is shown wide open for anyone to see, they get your IP, find the ISP and report it, then your ISP goes after you.

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also set up a firewall, untangle, pfsense and block this stuff, also lock down your computer with only guest rights so people cant install anything or get Anti-Executable from Faronics.

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Old 12-01-09, 04:41 PM Thread Starter   #7
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I go have firewalls not blocking torrents because you have to shut down everything. I password protected the computers so I am not worried about it happening again just the actions that will be taken and what the "auto-dailer" action is. As in they tried to contact me or they try and contacted the copyright holder? ext

My friend was also using peerguardian this is the isp they know what you are doing lol

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Old 12-01-09, 04:58 PM   #8
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Your firewall does nothing, this is your ISP, they can sniff every packet of data it they wanted, encrypted or not.

The way they find out is the companies that are coming after you, simply get your IP from torrent trackers, when you connect to a torrent your IP is shown wide open for anyone to see, they get your IP, find the ISP and report it, then your ISP goes after you.

peerguardian - your friend.

also set up a firewall, untangle, pfsense and block this stuff, also lock down your computer with only guest rights so people cant install anything or get Anti-Executable from Faronics.
Im talking about a firewall to block sites ?
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thats weird.... Provider Fox and NBC. where did he download monk and heros from?

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Old 12-01-09, 05:13 PM   #10
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Dude, you're screwed!
That's not cool haha I'd like to know more about peer guardian. I wish that the Government would consider the ISPs knowledge of your internet history similar to listening in on calls... I hate big companies being able to monitor your traffic. I am forced to you Comcast ATM and it's nothing but trouble in this department (no I don't pirate). I miss my small WOW ISP

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Old 12-01-09, 06:23 PM Thread Starter   #12
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Im talking about a firewall to block sites ?
Blocking sites wont block torrents and with upnp you have to block every port and site.

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thats weird.... Provider Fox and NBC. where did he download monk and heros from?
I know he used piratebay and demonoid
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Blocking sites wont block torrents and with upnp you have to block every port and site.


I know he used piratebay and demonoid
Block torrent sites and only give your account permisions to install things like torrent software and bam problem solved lol? Or use a firewall filter that contains tracker links and or downloads. keywords etc thats what my work uses and no one has pirated since
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If you're trying to prevent people from doing things on computers that aren't theirs, a blacklist isn't going to solve anything. There are a thousand variations of Proxify, a million variations of TPB, and a billion variations of other illegal sites. The solution is a whitelist, and blocking all ports other than 80 for non-privileged users. If there aren't any HTTP-based warez sites in your whitelist, they can't use your connection to get you in trouble.

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look into an untangle firewall

you could also block extension like .tor and such, untangle does a good job for blocking most p2p as well as it's web filtering blocks alot as well.

then on top of that you do a block all rule and only allow access out no port 80,53 and such, the more your make it hard for them the better.

then you can log all other firewall access, find out who is doing it, if you own all the computer you then lock them down, uninstall all torrent client, block any exe/msi from being installed and your golden!

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I would just close the connections to the 'public' machines. I had a roommate do that under my name, he never used my account again.

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Bottom line is if the net service is under your name, your address, then you're responsible. Unless you can do like Mr.Guvernment and FireMogle suggested, there's really not much else you can do aside from shutting down the net service. If your roomie has access to the pc and the net, then whatever he does falls on your shoulders.

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Old 12-02-09, 09:27 AM   #18
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^^ exactly and that is how the law see's it, imagine if the computer gets a virus that downloads kiddie porn to your system, guess what, your taking the fall, not the people using it.

You are responsible for everything that goes through that connection.

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So what ended up happening with a level 3 audio dialer call?
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but im not aware on how they can detect what you are downloading.
Its not very hard at all, you are neither safe or anonymous with torrents

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