Got me a Celeron 1.2 and a few Questions.

SkDmRkLcY · 01-31-02, 09:17 PM

I got this 1.2 for a new thing to play with and the price was right, it is not one of these newer ones that are OC to great extents but it is not bad either, I have been out of the intel scene for awile and am just a little confused on, One does burnin actually considered to make a diff. now, before it always went back and forth. Also I am currently running at 1500 (12X125) but what should the FSB TIming(ST6) or whatever be set to for that FSB, I am just a little confused on the system they are useing. Maybe I am looking at something wrong. I want to stay as close to spec as possible, but is their anyway to check the speed of the PCI and AGP it is not showing in sandra or CPUID or even cpufsb. Thanks for any help or input.

Yodums · 01-31-02, 10:23 PM

You should be using a 1/4 divider.

If you use the 1/3 divider your PCI spec would be too high of over 40. Although 1/4 would be putting it under spec by just abit.

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Pecos · 01-31-02, 10:29 PM

In the Abit ST6 BIOS, the first menu selection is the one where you set the FSB, voltage and the divisor. If your divisor is set to 3:3:1 and your FSB is 125 MHz, you are way out of PCI and AGP spec.

PCI spec is 33MHz and AGP is 66 MHz. 125/3 is nearly 42MHz. I think the 815x chipsets multiply the PCI clock by 2 to achieve the AGP clock, so your AGP would then be at almost 84MHz!!

You would want to make sure that yer using the 4:4:1 divisor if you're looking for spec clock speeds.

Hope this was what you were looking for...

SkDmRkLcY · 01-31-02, 10:35 PM

Thanks, for the help and info. I am usuing 4:4:1 and it seems ok but 3:3:1 was ok for me as well but I am sure problems would have shown up later, one thing I can not figure out 4:3:1 does not work at all. Just curios. I am really impressed with this CPU so far, I would have loved to get up to 1.6 but I do not think it will happen I am going to try some other stuff tommrow after I can get a new cpu cooler.

ol' man · 02-01-02, 11:29 AM

If you are running 1.5GHz on 1.6v there is a chance you may hit 1600MHz. Just for some insight on the ST6's capabilities, I ran my bus @ 134.5MHz fsb and the dividers @ 3:3:1 for 1.5 days without a hicup. This ST6 is a very inpressive board for high fsb's and out of spec PCI MHz. I wonder if the faster bus will help internet connections since the PCI bus is going faster for my nic card. I know my 1600MHz machine on the same line as a 200MHz pentium my machine was pulling around 290kb/s while the pentium 200 was about 1/5 that on the same line and same nic. I know I know system speed has noithing to do with how fast your connection is but it does seem sysytem performence has a little to do with how fast it can keep up with the info as it comes through the line, understand?

SkDmRkLcY · 02-05-02, 09:29 AM

Well, sorry it has been so long, but I think I may have hit the wall at 1.53 which don't get me wrong is very fast (about 7300-7400) in 3dmark2k1 but I may get another to see if it will do 1.6 my ultimate goal is to get one that will do 1.6 at 1.675V so I can use it in a lan machine(Have not found a good MATX board yet though) I am ordering a better heatsink for it to try but not sure what I am going to get yet, I would rather not take off the IHS yet untill I know if I am going to be keeping this chip or ordering a new one.

takiwa · 02-05-02, 10:22 AM

I guess since no one answered your question about burning-in the chip, I will

You may or may not see an improvement with a burn-in. If it helps you any, you should be able to reach higher FSB with the same or less voltage than you are running now, and be stable. If you are not stable now, you could drop you FSB, increase your voltage, run a few benchmarks for the next 24 hours or so, then boot back up to the o/c FSB you were at. If the burn-in helped, you would (hopefully) be stable, where you weren't before.

SkDmRkLcY · 02-05-02, 01:00 PM

At 125-127 I am stable but anything higher on my FSB it will go into windows upto I think 131 but it will eventually just hard lock. And at 133 no matter what voltage it just gives me a blue screen before it even gets into windows.

DRR93454 · 02-05-02, 05:34 PM

Are you saying you are doing 131 with just the Factory heatsink and fan? If so, it sounds like a winner with decent cooling.

SkDmRkLcY · 02-05-02, 08:36 PM

I wish, no I am at 127 (Best all around I have found, with a ALl copper cooler from Powercooler, it is pretty decent I am looking for something better but I am not going to use a delta fan, I sleep next to this thing.

01-31-02, 09:17 PM	Thread Starter #1
SkDmRkLcY New Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hamilton, OH	Got me a Celeron 1.2 and a few Questions. I got this 1.2 for a new thing to play with and the price was right, it is not one of these newer ones that are OC to great extents but it is not bad either, I have been out of the intel scene for awile and am just a little confused on, One does burnin actually considered to make a diff. now, before it always went back and forth. Also I am currently running at 1500 (12X125) but what should the FSB TIming(ST6) or whatever be set to for that FSB, I am just a little confused on the system they are useing. Maybe I am looking at something wrong. I want to stay as close to spec as possible, but is their anyway to check the speed of the PCI and AGP it is not showing in sandra or CPUID or even cpufsb. Thanks for any help or input.
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01-31-02, 10:23 PM	#2
Yodums Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ottawa, Canada	You should be using a 1/4 divider. If you use the 1/3 divider your PCI spec would be too high of over 40. Although 1/4 would be putting it under spec by just abit. Yodums __________________ Peter Gibbons: Let me ask you something. When you come in on Monday, and you're not feelin' real well, does anyone ever say to you, 'Sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays'? Lawrence: No. No, man. ****, no, man. I believe you'd get your ass kicked sayin' something like that, man.
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01-31-02, 10:29 PM	#3
Pecos Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Probably the bar... Chicagoland!	In the Abit ST6 BIOS, the first menu selection is the one where you set the FSB, voltage and the divisor. If your divisor is set to 3:3:1 and your FSB is 125 MHz, you are way out of PCI and AGP spec. PCI spec is 33MHz and AGP is 66 MHz. 125/3 is nearly 42MHz. I think the 815x chipsets multiply the PCI clock by 2 to achieve the AGP clock, so your AGP would then be at almost 84MHz!! You would want to make sure that yer using the 4:4:1 divisor if you're looking for spec clock speeds. Hope this was what you were looking for... __________________ XP2100+ XP1700+ XP3000+ Mobile XP2400+ Mobile XP2600+
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01-31-02, 10:35 PM	Thread Starter #4
SkDmRkLcY New Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hamilton, OH	Thanks, for the help and info. I am usuing 4:4:1 and it seems ok but 3:3:1 was ok for me as well but I am sure problems would have shown up later, one thing I can not figure out 4:3:1 does not work at all. Just curios. I am really impressed with this CPU so far, I would have loved to get up to 1.6 but I do not think it will happen I am going to try some other stuff tommrow after I can get a new cpu cooler.
	QUOTE Thanks

02-01-02, 11:29 AM	#5
ol' man Member Join Date: Aug 2001	If you are running 1.5GHz on 1.6v there is a chance you may hit 1600MHz. Just for some insight on the ST6's capabilities, I ran my bus @ 134.5MHz fsb and the dividers @ 3:3:1 for 1.5 days without a hicup. This ST6 is a very inpressive board for high fsb's and out of spec PCI MHz. I wonder if the faster bus will help internet connections since the PCI bus is going faster for my nic card. I know my 1600MHz machine on the same line as a 200MHz pentium my machine was pulling around 290kb/s while the pentium 200 was about 1/5 that on the same line and same nic. I know I know system speed has noithing to do with how fast your connection is but it does seem sysytem performence has a little to do with how fast it can keep up with the info as it comes through the line, understand?
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02-05-02, 09:29 AM	Thread Starter #6
SkDmRkLcY New Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hamilton, OH	Well, sorry it has been so long, but I think I may have hit the wall at 1.53 which don't get me wrong is very fast (about 7300-7400) in 3dmark2k1 but I may get another to see if it will do 1.6 my ultimate goal is to get one that will do 1.6 at 1.675V so I can use it in a lan machine(Have not found a good MATX board yet though) I am ordering a better heatsink for it to try but not sure what I am going to get yet, I would rather not take off the IHS yet untill I know if I am going to be keeping this chip or ordering a new one.
	QUOTE Thanks

02-05-02, 10:22 AM	#7
takiwa Member Join Date: Dec 2001	I guess since no one answered your question about burning-in the chip, I will You may or may not see an improvement with a burn-in. If it helps you any, you should be able to reach higher FSB with the same or less voltage than you are running now, and be stable. If you are not stable now, you could drop you FSB, increase your voltage, run a few benchmarks for the next 24 hours or so, then boot back up to the o/c FSB you were at. If the burn-in helped, you would (hopefully) be stable, where you weren't before.
	QUOTE Thanks

02-05-02, 01:00 PM	Thread Starter #8
SkDmRkLcY New Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hamilton, OH	At 125-127 I am stable but anything higher on my FSB it will go into windows upto I think 131 but it will eventually just hard lock. And at 133 no matter what voltage it just gives me a blue screen before it even gets into windows.
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02-05-02, 05:34 PM	#9
DRR93454 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Santa Maria, CA.	Are you saying you are doing 131 with just the Factory heatsink and fan? If so, it sounds like a winner with decent cooling.
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02-05-02, 08:36 PM	Thread Starter #10
SkDmRkLcY New Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hamilton, OH	I wish, no I am at 127 (Best all around I have found, with a ALl copper cooler from Powercooler, it is pretty decent I am looking for something better but I am not going to use a delta fan, I sleep next to this thing.
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