next-gen nVidia product equiv. to ATI 5770?

x509 · Jan 28, 2010

I'm not a gamer, but I am a photographer, so my need is for a card that allows significant performance boost via GPU offload to Adobe apps like Photoshop and Lightroom. :-/

I was thinking about the ATI 5570, because of its combination of performance, relative to older products, and its relatively low power consumption at idle. (I want to watercool both CPU and GPU with one loop.)

However, today a guy I know who worked at Adobe until two months ago told me that Adobe has always optimized its GPU offload for nVidia, not ATI, and recomended to me that I get an nVidia card for my next system. So I'm wondering if anyone can tell me nVidia will be announcing soon that might be competitive with an ATI 5770-class card. :eh?:

Sorry if I'm asking a question that has already been answered.

but I'm just joining this forum today. :eh?:

MattNo5ss · Jan 28, 2010

nVidia's offering is supposedly going to be released at the end of Q1 2010.

Younglin · Jan 28, 2010

I have very little experience with photoshop, lightroom etc. but as far as I know they do not optimize for nvidia. It wouldn't make much sense to optimize for one company when so many people have the other. I'm not saying they don't, I don't know for sure, I'm just saying it wouldn't make sense to me.

MattNo5ss · Jan 28, 2010

I know some programs can take advantage of CUDA, which is nVidia only.

GIXXERGUY6 · Jan 28, 2010

photoshop information can be found here

http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/404/kb404898.html

Some LR information can be found here

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/346509

x509 · Jan 29, 2010

MattNo5ss said:
I know some programs can take advantage of CUDA, which is nVidia only.

The guy I know, the ex-Adobe guy, said that Adobe tends to optimize around CUDA.

I have read the Adobe website, so I know that GPU support in CS 4 is somewhat limited, but as file sizes get larger, it becomes more and more important to leverage GPU capabilities to speed up screen redraws. I'm told that CS 5 will have further advances in this area over CS 4.

I should add that I tend to keep graphics cards for 2-3 years, since I'm not a gamer. Also, since Photoshop supports only one GPU, I have no need for a multi-GPU setup.

I appreciate all the comments.

x509

Younglin · Jan 29, 2010

My commtech professor uses ati radeon 5850's in all his PS machines, and they ran just fine ( much faster than the macs) in PS.

Bobnova · Jan 29, 2010

PS uses OpenGL, so it works on just about anything, at least anything that supports opengl.

x509 · Jan 29, 2010

Younglin said:
My commtech professor uses ati radeon 5850's in all his PS machines, and they ran just fine ( much faster than the macs) in PS.

No doubt. The issue for me is whether an investment of N dollars would yield a faster performing Photoshop system, if I had a choice between "equivalent" ATI and nVidia products. :attn:

Thanks,

x509

MadMan007 · Jan 29, 2010

There are supposed to be smaller Fermi derivatives out in the summer last I knew, could just be a rumor though.

Younglin · Jan 29, 2010

No doubt. The issue for me is whether an investment of N dollars would yield a faster performing Photoshop system, if I had a choice between "equivalent" ATI and nVidia products.

I'd wait for the nvidia cards to come out and then get a 5770, because ati will most likely drop their prices. Besides I kind of doubt it will make much of a performance impact. If your deciding between two mid-power cards go with the cheaper one.

TF2 · Jan 30, 2010

GTX 260 Core 216 is pretty close in performance, but its a last-gen card.

x509 · Jan 30, 2010

Younglin said:
I'd wait for the nvidia cards to come out and then get a 5770, because ati will most likely drop their prices. Besides I kind of doubt it will make much of a performance impact. If your deciding between two mid-power cards go with the cheaper one.

Price is always a consideration, but "performance" for me is not game-related, but Photoshop-related. From what I can tell, Windows 7 Aero requirements are so "basic" that any decent card will run Aero OK.

x509

Hey Zeus · Jan 30, 2010

x509 said:
I'm not a gamer, but I am a photographer, so my need is for a card that allows significant performance boost via GPU offload to Adobe apps like Photoshop and Lightroom.

I was thinking about the ATI 5570, because of its combination of performance, relative to older products, and its relatively low power consumption at idle. (I want to watercool both CPU and GPU with one loop.)

However, today a guy I know who worked at Adobe until two months ago told me that Adobe has always optimized its GPU offload for nVidia, not ATI, and recomended to me that I get an nVidia card for my next system. So I'm wondering if anyone can tell me nVidia will be announcing soon that might be competitive with an ATI 5770-class card.

Sorry if I'm asking a question that has already been answered. but I'm just joining this forum today.

That guy was an idiot and Nvidia doesn't have an equivalent to the 5770.

deed · Jan 30, 2010

Hey Zeus said:
That guy was an idiot and Nvidia doesn't have an equivalent to the 5770.

besides not having direct x 10 what about gtx 295?...

Anyways wouldnt it be best to get a card made just for this like a quadro?

Hey Zeus · Jan 31, 2010

deed said:
besides not having direct x 10 what about gtx 295?...

295 is overkill and not worth it now that the 5 series ati is out. I think the closest nvidia card to the 5770 is the GTX 260 C 216.

x509 · Jan 31, 2010

Hey Zeus said:
That guy was an idiot and Nvidia doesn't have an equivalent to the 5770.

Hey Zeus! You don't know this guy, I do. And he is decidedly NOT an idiot. :argue:

Anyway, I was really asking if/when nVidia might be announcing a next-gen card with performance at the ATI 5770 level.

x509

Hey Zeus · Jan 31, 2010

x509 said:
Hey Zeus! You don't know this guy, I do. And he is decidedly NOT an idiot.

Anyway, I was really asking if/when nVidia might be announcing a next-gen card with performance at the ATI 5770 level.

x509

Fermi will be out in 2 months and i think they're going after the 5870 at first and mainstream cards will be announced later

Bobnova · Jan 31, 2010

In theory Fermi will be out in two months. In reality, who knows.

It'll be some time after that before they start going after the mid range though.

ratbuddy · Jan 31, 2010

Supposedly Nvidia only has a delay on the top end stuff, and the rest of the lineup will rollout very shortly after. Also supposedly, the next generation after Fermi will be out by the end of the year as well.

If you need a card now, go ahead and grab the 5770. If you can wait a couple months, go ahead and see what Nvidia brings to the table.

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