Drop in points after putting second card in

dark bishop · 03-11-10, 12:56 AM

Well the oven trick worked and I now have a fully functioning 8800gt again. Gave it some burn in and it didn't explode so I put it to folding again.

Problem is that my gtx285 used to get around 8-9k ppd but now its stuck down around 4k even with its over clock. (for safety I'm leaving the 8800gt @ stock)

I've deleted the que.dat, work folder, and fah cores from each folder to try and get it cleared up but no luck.

each card is attached to its own monitor btw.

GIXXERGUY6 · 03-11-10, 01:11 AM

deleting the work sets back the cause.

did you set the gpu's to idle? as well as the cpu at idle?

Wicked_Pixie · 03-11-10, 01:13 AM

Only time I noticed a PPD drop when adding a 2nd card is when I forget to put "-gpu 1" in the shortcut. That happened to me quite a few times.

You can easily check if your newly added card is working by checking GPU-z and check the GPU loads between your GTX285 and 8800GT.

dark bishop · 03-11-10, 01:25 AM

The 8800gt doesnt show any load :/ ? of course it didnt show before hand either.

Both cards are working on P6602's. 8800 (R3, C357, G0) 285 (R1, C210, G1)

I know they are both working cause the temps go up or down depending on whether folding is on or not.

Wicked_Pixie · 03-11-10, 01:54 AM

If it's not registering any GPU load on your 8800GT and your GTX 285 PPD is cut in half, I am almost sure that the GTX 285 is working on the same client.

T o test, close one client and see if your PPD goes up on your GTX.

Do you have the -gpu x flags assigned for each client in the target line in the shortcut, like so? Assuming you are using the console client.

I have not used the systray client in ages and forgot how to do that.

dark bishop · 03-11-10, 10:07 AM

yes, both have the -gpu x flag, i am using the systray but im thinking of switching to console.

dark bishop · 03-11-10, 10:24 AM

even after shutting off folding on the 8800 the 285 is still hovering around 4k ppd?! WTH?!

Wicked_Pixie · 03-11-10, 11:05 AM

I found someone having the same issue as you are at folding forum.
Link

Worth a shot.

Mark620 · 03-11-10, 12:08 PM

Disable cpu affinity lock?

Are you folding on the CPU too?
If so, I have the same problem.
Q6600 with 2ea 8800GT's on Asus P5N-D, 2 gb ram, Win XP
When I run all 3 clients - fewer PPD.
Best PPD is 2 GPU's (NO SMP)

I also have the restart overclock loss on one gpu...seems all my multi gpu rigs do that...

dark bishop · 03-11-10, 12:10 PM

Thanks pixie, I had swapped cards before without needing to reinstall drivers so I kinda skipped it this time. Windows said new hardware and recognized it so I thought all was well.

dark bishop · 03-11-10, 02:03 PM

as far as folding on the cpu yes i am, when the gpu's are going its down between 2-4k, when not gpu folding its up around 7k.

dark bishop · 03-11-10, 04:58 PM

had to re install all my clients and nv drivers but its up and going again.

dark bishop · 03-12-10, 12:49 PM

I dont know whats going on?

Right after re-installing drivers and the clients the 8800 was around 4k where it should be while the 285 was around 8-10k, and the cpu was around 3k. Now the cpu is up to 5k, the 8800 is down to 2k and the 285 is down to 4k.

Wicked_Pixie · 03-12-10, 01:58 PM

Set the cpu priority to idle on the smp; low for gpu clients. If you already done that, add NV_FAH_CPU_AFFINITY to environment variable and set it to 15.

dark bishop · 03-12-10, 02:23 PM

I figured it out!

Its nvidia's stupid drivers thats the problem, gpuz and evga precision never showed that it had downclocked into 2d mode! I applied a patch someone on the evga boards came up with to lock it into 3d high power via a registry edit.

KGH · 03-12-10, 03:11 PM

would please share this patch?
this is a common problem with running multi-cards now.

at least I encountered few times and had to reboot/reinstall driver, which is painful.

dark bishop · 03-12-10, 03:27 PM

certainly sir, here you are, just unzip and follow the extremely simple instructions.

KGH · 03-12-10, 03:49 PM

thank you

Wicked_Pixie · 03-12-10, 05:47 PM

Thanks for the heads-up db!

Saved... just in case I come across this issue.

03-11-10, 12:56 AM	Thread Starter #1
dark bishop Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Folding the PWN, Salem Oregon	Drop in points after putting second card in Well the oven trick worked and I now have a fully functioning 8800gt again. Gave it some burn in and it didn't explode so I put it to folding again. Problem is that my gtx285 used to get around 8-9k ppd but now its stuck down around 4k even with its over clock. (for safety I'm leaving the 8800gt @ stock) I've deleted the que.dat, work folder, and fah cores from each folder to try and get it cleared up but no luck. each card is attached to its own monitor btw. __________________ Phenom II 1090t 4.0Ghz \| Mushkin 8gb ddr3 Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5 \| MSI 6950 2gb TwinFrozr Silverstone 700w silent modular Windows 7 ultimate 64-bit Corsiar H80 HEAT
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03-11-10, 01:11 AM	#2
GIXXERGUY6 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Northwest Ohio	deleting the work sets back the cause. did you set the gpu's to idle? as well as the cpu at idle? __________________ Thermaltake vh6000bws EVGA x58 SLI LE 3x SLI SilverStone ZM1200M i7 920 D0 - 3.8 Folding away 1.35v(1.23v load) Megahalems Rev.B push pull R4's 1tb Seagate 7200.11 Sata,5 500gb 2- EVGA GTS450 1gb My Heat Thanks for kicking my card in the RAMDAC's
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03-11-10, 01:13 AM	#3
Wicked_Pixie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA	Only time I noticed a PPD drop when adding a 2nd card is when I forget to put "-gpu 1" in the shortcut. That happened to me quite a few times. You can easily check if your newly added card is working by checking GPU-z and check the GPU loads between your GTX285 and 8800GT. __________________ Folding in loving memory of Grandpa C. (April 2010) Alzheimer's and Parkinson's “ But we in it shall be remember'd; We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother... " Henry V -Billy Shakespeare Heatware
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03-11-10, 01:25 AM	Thread Starter #4
dark bishop Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Folding the PWN, Salem Oregon	The 8800gt doesnt show any load :/ ? of course it didnt show before hand either. Both cards are working on P6602's. 8800 (R3, C357, G0) 285 (R1, C210, G1) I know they are both working cause the temps go up or down depending on whether folding is on or not. __________________ Phenom II 1090t 4.0Ghz \| Mushkin 8gb ddr3 Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5 \| MSI 6950 2gb TwinFrozr Silverstone 700w silent modular Windows 7 ultimate 64-bit Corsiar H80 HEAT
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03-11-10, 01:54 AM	#5
Wicked_Pixie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA	If it's not registering any GPU load on your 8800GT and your GTX 285 PPD is cut in half, I am almost sure that the GTX 285 is working on the same client. T o test, close one client and see if your PPD goes up on your GTX. Do you have the -gpu x flags assigned for each client in the target line in the shortcut, like so? Assuming you are using the console client. I have not used the systray client in ages and forgot how to do that. __________________ Folding in loving memory of Grandpa C. (April 2010) Alzheimer's and Parkinson's “ But we in it shall be remember'd; We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother... " Henry V -Billy Shakespeare Heatware
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03-11-10, 10:07 AM	Thread Starter #6
dark bishop Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Folding the PWN, Salem Oregon	yes, both have the -gpu x flag, i am using the systray but im thinking of switching to console. __________________ Phenom II 1090t 4.0Ghz \| Mushkin 8gb ddr3 Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5 \| MSI 6950 2gb TwinFrozr Silverstone 700w silent modular Windows 7 ultimate 64-bit Corsiar H80 HEAT
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03-11-10, 10:24 AM	Thread Starter #7
dark bishop Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Folding the PWN, Salem Oregon	even after shutting off folding on the 8800 the 285 is still hovering around 4k ppd?! WTH?! __________________ Phenom II 1090t 4.0Ghz \| Mushkin 8gb ddr3 Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5 \| MSI 6950 2gb TwinFrozr Silverstone 700w silent modular Windows 7 ultimate 64-bit Corsiar H80 HEAT
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03-11-10, 11:05 AM	#8
Wicked_Pixie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA	I found someone having the same issue as you are at folding forum. Link Worth a shot. __________________ Folding in loving memory of Grandpa C. (April 2010) Alzheimer's and Parkinson's “ But we in it shall be remember'd; We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother... " Henry V -Billy Shakespeare Heatware
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03-11-10, 12:08 PM	#9
Mark620 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Spencer Mountain, TN	Disable cpu affinity lock? Are you folding on the CPU too? If so, I have the same problem. Q6600 with 2ea 8800GT's on Asus P5N-D, 2 gb ram, Win XP When I run all 3 clients - fewer PPD. Best PPD is 2 GPU's (NO SMP) I also have the restart overclock loss on one gpu...seems all my multi gpu rigs do that... __________________ Fold for Team32 I'm going to bite the bullet, too! President Obama ordered the cabinet to cut $100 million from the 3.5 trillion federal budget. I'm so impressed by this sacrifice that I have decided to do the same thing with my personal budget. I spend about $1,000 a month in household expenses, but it's time to get out the cutting axe. I'm going to cut my spending at exactly the same ratio! It looks like instead of spending $1,000 a month, I'm going to have to cut that number by three cents. Yes, I'm going to have to get by with $999.97, but that's what sacrifice is all about. I'll just have to do without some things, that are, frankly, luxuries – three cents worth. "There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation...One is by sword...The other is by debt."John Adams, 1826 Last edited by Mark620; 03-11-10 at 12:18 PM.
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03-11-10, 12:10 PM	Thread Starter #10
dark bishop Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Folding the PWN, Salem Oregon	Thanks pixie, I had swapped cards before without needing to reinstall drivers so I kinda skipped it this time. Windows said new hardware and recognized it so I thought all was well.
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03-11-10, 02:03 PM	Thread Starter #11
dark bishop Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Folding the PWN, Salem Oregon	as far as folding on the cpu yes i am, when the gpu's are going its down between 2-4k, when not gpu folding its up around 7k. __________________ Phenom II 1090t 4.0Ghz \| Mushkin 8gb ddr3 Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5 \| MSI 6950 2gb TwinFrozr Silverstone 700w silent modular Windows 7 ultimate 64-bit Corsiar H80 HEAT
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03-11-10, 04:58 PM	Thread Starter #12
dark bishop Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Folding the PWN, Salem Oregon	had to re install all my clients and nv drivers but its up and going again. __________________ Phenom II 1090t 4.0Ghz \| Mushkin 8gb ddr3 Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5 \| MSI 6950 2gb TwinFrozr Silverstone 700w silent modular Windows 7 ultimate 64-bit Corsiar H80 HEAT
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03-12-10, 12:49 PM	Thread Starter #13
dark bishop Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Folding the PWN, Salem Oregon	I dont know whats going on? Right after re-installing drivers and the clients the 8800 was around 4k where it should be while the 285 was around 8-10k, and the cpu was around 3k. Now the cpu is up to 5k, the 8800 is down to 2k and the 285 is down to 4k. Attached Images __________________ Phenom II 1090t 4.0Ghz \| Mushkin 8gb ddr3 Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5 \| MSI 6950 2gb TwinFrozr Silverstone 700w silent modular Windows 7 ultimate 64-bit Corsiar H80 HEAT
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03-12-10, 01:58 PM	#14
Wicked_Pixie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA	Set the cpu priority to idle on the smp; low for gpu clients. If you already done that, add NV_FAH_CPU_AFFINITY to environment variable and set it to 15.
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03-12-10, 02:23 PM	Thread Starter #15
dark bishop Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Folding the PWN, Salem Oregon	I figured it out! Its nvidia's stupid drivers thats the problem, gpuz and evga precision never showed that it had downclocked into 2d mode! I applied a patch someone on the evga boards came up with to lock it into 3d high power via a registry edit. __________________ Phenom II 1090t 4.0Ghz \| Mushkin 8gb ddr3 Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5 \| MSI 6950 2gb TwinFrozr Silverstone 700w silent modular Windows 7 ultimate 64-bit Corsiar H80 HEAT
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03-12-10, 03:11 PM	#16
KGH Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Jose, CA	would please share this patch? this is a common problem with running multi-cards now. at least I encountered few times and had to reboot/reinstall driver, which is painful. __________________ Heatware: KGH
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03-12-10, 03:49 PM	#18
KGH Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Jose, CA	thank you __________________ Heatware: KGH
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03-12-10, 05:47 PM	#19
Wicked_Pixie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA	Thanks for the heads-up db! Saved... just in case I come across this issue. __________________ Folding in loving memory of Grandpa C. (April 2010) Alzheimer's and Parkinson's “ But we in it shall be remember'd; We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother... " Henry V -Billy Shakespeare Heatware
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