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potentially horrible? YES
Will the MPAA abuse this? YES
Will the consumer have ANY recourse once it is proven that the MPAA is abusing this? NO.

Yet again, welcome to the new boss, same as the old boss. Nothing changes regardless of what is said, money rules and those who have the most of it make the rules the rest have to follow.

With the way that reads along with other approvals lately, the only way to circumvent this will be to buy grey market items (china DVD players), DIY with a very limited selection, or flat out violate the law when the crack is found.
 
I'm not worried. Do you worst, RIAA and MPAA. As soon as you come up with some new technology, it will be broken. You can't win, you can just make yourself enough of a pain in the *** to discourage the technologically disinclined.
 
I dunno. This is something that a lot of young people care about and take seriously, almost to the point of being militant.

As long as our generation doesn't sell out like the hippies, real positive change may happen.
 
Personally I don't care how they do it. They pay for everything and then people treat this stuff as if it were free. If you don't want the intrusion then just don't buy into it. If you want the latest greatest then pony up. I see absolutely nothing wrong with this.
 
My favorite part is how the FCC said they only intend to use this...blah blah blah... (insert claim of complete innocence here) And his reply is:
Allowing the MPAA to get SOC in your set-top box but "never planning on using it" is like buying a freezer full of chocolate ice-cream and never planning on eating it.
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Just remember, the FCC is government and that means control. Sooner or later they will control what you see and how you see it if you don't pay attention. Thier powers are growing and just because it doesn't directly affect you now, doesn't mean the measures put in place won't effect you later.
 
TommyHolly said:
My favorite part is how the FCC said they only intend to use this...blah blah blah... (insert claim of complete innocence here) And his reply is:


Just remember, the FCC is government and that means control. Sooner or later they will control what you see and how you see it if you don't pay attention. Thier powers are growing and just because it doesn't directly affect you now, doesn't mean the measures put in place won't effect you later.
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Hey if it is what the people want let them have it. Lemmings!!!
 
Fortunately: I don't really believe in the FCC.

The very few GOOD things the FCC has ever done were all accidental.

I think the censorship is stupid, the corporate pandering is stupid, and any time they step out of those two main areas of expertise, the results are STUPID.

Fortunately we live in an age where you have the power to VETO whatever the hell they do.

I don't mind getting my A/V hardware shipped to me from Japan and I don't mind getting my movies from Europe.
 
rainless said:
Fortunately: I don't really believe in the FCC.

The very few GOOD things the FCC has ever done were all accidental.

I think the censorship is stupid, the corporate pandering is stupid, and any time they step out of those two main areas of expertise, the results are STUPID.

Fortunately we live in an age where you have the power to VETO whatever the hell they do.

I don't mind getting my A/V hardware shipped to me from Japan and I don't mind getting my movies from Europe.
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Well said my good man
 
Maybe I'm missing something here but I dont see how this will actually work at all... What exactly is the SOC supposed to be able to do and what can it affect (device wise)?
 
TommyHolly said:
My favorite part is how the FCC said they only intend to use this...blah blah blah... (insert claim of complete innocence here) And his reply is:


Just remember, the FCC is government and that means control. Sooner or later they will control what you see and how you see it if you don't pay attention. Thier powers are growing and just because it doesn't directly affect you now, doesn't mean the measures put in place won't effect you later.
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I like how you were able to take what the article said and twist it in to 'the evil gubment is taking over!' Well played, sir.
 
It'd be interesting to see how this happens if they happened to reach a computer that is run by a pro hacker. The hacker, if he catches on, could counter and render MIAA/RIAA's computers into junk.
 
The whole thing is so full of holes an reasoning.

First, it's ridiculous because this can't ever stop piracy or get first-run movies into your living room. Even with SOC, the studios are not going to release high-value movies that are still in theatrical distribution for viewing in your house, where you could set up a tripod and high-quality camera (along with ideal lighting) in order to make your own camcordered copy and put it online.

Now, the FCC could have solved this by saying that only movies that are in their first theatrical release run can have SOC turned on, but they didn't, because they knew that the MPAA was lying through its teeth about using SOC to enable the "new business model" of showing you first run movies in your home.
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Exactly, unless they digitally sign each movie like they do in theaters with special random watermarks on a frame thus being able to trace it back to the person who released it as most people wouldn't know to look for that.

SOC only works with DRM-crippled outputs, like those locked with HDCP, DTLA, etc.
Now that some content will have SOC on it, every manufacturer will race to add SOC (and hence HDCP and DTLA and so on) to their devices

The committees that run DTLA and HDCP and other DRM cartels are absolutely in thrall to the MPAA. When I've attended DRM committee meetings, I've watched the MPAA reps tie the consumer electronics guys in knots, playing them off against each other, bullying them, dirty tricking them

Putting DTLA or HDCP in your devices isn't simple: in order to do so, you have to comply with an enormous about of restrictions that the MPAA dreams up and crams into the license agreements (much of these agreements are secret, and not available for regulators or consumer to inspect)

Ergo: now that the FCC has allowed SOC in devices, all devices will have SOC, and since SOC comes with DRM, and since the studios control DRM licensing, and since they shove all kinds of restrictive crap into DRM licenses, the FCC has essentially just guaranteed that the future of all media will be controlled by Hollywood, to our eternal torment and detriment
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Scary thought but true, the future will be run by companies, not the government, what i do hope is our generation is far more tech savy then last, i think why alot of this has been approved and so on, i do hope going forward slowly we will get more intelligent people into the government world who can see the bad side of all of this.
 
burningcpu said:
I dunno. This is something that a lot of young people care about and take seriously, almost to the point of being militant.

As long as our generation doesn't sell out like the hippies, real positive change may happen.
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We are screwed then, damn effeminate generation of ours.
 
rollincoaster said:
Who wants to impose this on the FCC to control what porn they watch? Maybe the SEC will step in.
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They already do to a point. I mean beastiality, child and several other kinds of porn are illegal nationally. Local laws even ban basic "soft-core" types of porn. Recently here, a woman had a web-site selling amature videos of herself and got raided and shut down by the county. Poor woman got booked and jailed on TONS of charges ie: obscenity, exhibitionism, prostitution and I don't even know how many others. Not sure what happened to her or if she's been to trial yet.
 
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