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GIXXERGUY6

GIXXERGUY6

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I am confused. I don't have my current settings noted, but here is what happens. My computer will restart about once a day. I don't know what is going on. I have my settings set the same and I keep rebooting as stated above.

Should I tinker with voltage, freq's or vtt...or something else? It has only started since I bumped to 4.0, but just recently started rebooting. It was running solid for weeks on end and then started this. I don't have the time right now to shut folding down and run some tests, but previously it was 8 hours stable on p95 at 4.0.. I don't get it.


Lets hear some input and I'll figure out what to do.

Thanks
 
Yep up the vcore or vvt or down the clock. Folding will find any weakness in your overclock!!
 
Are you getting any BSOD's? How are temps? Put a DMM on the PSU to check voltages under load?

Also, keep in mind, Prime stable doesn't always mean folding stable. I have had rigs that would run Prime95 for 36 hours with no errors, and choke after an hour of folding. Also, a run down of your settings will make it easier for us to point you in the right direction.:beer:
 
Yep. Your overclock is not stable. I would bump up the volts or drop your overclock to previously stable state. I am having a very similar situation with a couple of my folders. I have recently started bumping my folders up from 3.6ghz to 3.8ghz and am having similar results on two of my machines. They would run weeks on end at 3.6 but 3.8 has proven to be a little more difficult.
 
I downclocked my cpu from 4.2 to 3.8
My mem is @ 1800 2:10
There is really no big difference in tpf w/one gpu
I have noticed lately that my once very stable 4.2 is still stable but their seems to be some differences in the WU's.
I never changed anything in my settings, but was forced to downclock due to resent shutdowns.
I don't know if anyone else has experienced this also, but for some reason my machine became unstable lately.....
 
For all we know, it could be temps, voltage, or even a bad PSU causing the shut downs. It could also be an OS issue as Wega! pointed out. The best thing in this situation is to get a rundown of the details before we just start saying "up the voltage". It could be RAM timings causing the problem, which vCore will not fix.
 
after a few tests, I thought the same thing (inflated OS) so I installed a new OS..no change, Thats when I downclocked.
I actually put the memory in a different rig and tested seemed ok
but who knows after a year and a half could be parts are wearing out on 4.2 24/7
:shrug:
 
does it do it with the same wu's or is it with different wu's. as some will gather more heat than others, and offer more stress as well
 
I have a problem aswell with my 8600gt gpu client.... keeps telling me i have an unstable machine. nothing has changed? restarted and reinstalled the client but it just doesnt fix it?
 
very rarely get or see a BSOD. It usually happens well after my monitor turns itself off.

sometimes when I'm using it as it's folding it will freeze on me, but not all the time. Sometimes I come home to it and have to reboot it as it won't turn the monitor on, but I don't let the pc itself sleep.. I don't get it.
 
I had a similar problem to what you are describing a few years ago with an old socket A rig. It turned out that I had an under-powered PSU, which caused some ripple to do some damage to the mobo. That may not be the case in your rig, but it is something worth looking into. What PSU is running it? Does it give you the same problems if you drop the CPU down to 3.8?
 
Rizo-uk said:
I have a problem aswell with my 8600gt gpu client.... keeps telling me i have an unstable machine. nothing has changed? restarted and reinstalled the client but it just doesnt fix it?
Click to expand...
Some of the WUs don't play well with 8600GTs. Happened to me quite a few times when I was running one. They're just too much for them. And with the "anti-cherrypicking" that Stanford has to run on the servers, you'll keep getting assigned the same unit, which will EUE, and put you into a 24 hour pause.
 
Is this true of the 8800gt-s as well? Because I'm about to attempt to get the GPU client going in wine...

Also how good is it at getting out of the way? It's my only card, and i can renice it to help some but...

Sorry if this is threadjacking

I agree with either underpowered PSU or unstable OC though
 
Answer to threadjack:
FAH runs well on all the nVidia 96sp and up cards. The 8600GT, with only 32sp, runs into trouble on some WUs.

More threadjack (total and complete, sorry GIX):
If you're running a Debian based linux and are SMP folding, don't bother trying GPU folding on any kernel newer than 2.6.28 (shipped with Ubuntu 9.04). On the newer kernels, the gpu interferes with SMP folding to a degree that the net gain from adding the gpu is less than 1000 ppd at a cost of 100+ watts power consumption.
I last tried GPU folding under wine with an 8800GT on a Q6600 @ 3.24 along with SMP folding using Ubuntu 10.10 and the latest nVidia drivers. Here's what happened:

SMP only performance:

Code: 
Project ID: 6701
 Core: GRO-A3
 Credit: 921
 Frames: 100


Name: CR L 1
 Path: \\Cr-l1\fah\SMP\
 Number of Frames Observed: 300

 Min. Time / Frame : 00:10:37 - 7,216 PPD
 Avg. Time / Frame : 00:10:42 - 7,132 PPD
 Cur. Time / Frame : 00:10:45 - 7,091 PPD
 R3F. Time / Frame : 00:10:43 - 7,113 PPD
 All  Time / Frame : 00:10:44 - 7,102 PPD
 Eff. Time / Frame : 00:10:47 - 7,069 PPD

8800GT only performance:
Code: 
Project ID: 6600
 Core: GROGPU2
 Credit: 450
 Frames: 100

 Name: CR-L1 8800GT
 Path: \\Cr-l1\fah\GPU\
 Number of Frames Observed: 13

 Min. Time / Frame : 00:01:32 - 4,226 PPD
 Avg. Time / Frame : 00:01:32 - 4,226 PPD
 Cur. Time / Frame : 00:01:32 - 4,226 PPD
 R3F. Time / Frame : 00:01:32 - 4,226 PPD
 All  Time / Frame : 00:01:32 - 4,226 PPD
 Eff. Time / Frame : 00:01:39 - 3,927 PPD

Performance with SMP (nice 19) and GPU (nice 13):

Code: 
Project ID: 6600
 Core: GROGPU2
 Credit: 450
 Frames: 100

Name: CR-L1 8800GT
 Path: \\Cr-l1\fah\GPU\
 Number of Frames Observed: 103

 Min. Time / Frame : 00:01:32 - 4,226 PPD
 Avg. Time / Frame : 00:01:32 - 4,226 PPD
 Cur. Time / Frame : 00:01:32 - 4,226 PPD
 R3F. Time / Frame : 00:01:32 - 4,226 PPD
 All  Time / Frame : 00:01:32 - 4,226 PPD
 Eff. Time / Frame : 00:01:41 - 3,850 PPD

Project ID: 6701
 Core: GRO-A3
 Credit: 921
 Frames: 100

Name: CR L 1
 Path: \\Cr-l1\fah\SMP\
 Number of Frames Observed: 300

 Min. Time / Frame : 00:10:37 - 7,216 PPD
 Avg. Time / Frame : 00:10:56 - 6,905 PPD
 [COLOR="Red"]Cur. Time / Frame : 00:19:45 - 3,245 PPD[/COLOR]!!
 R3F. Time / Frame : 00:15:44 - 4,073 PPD
 All  Time / Frame : 00:13:27 - 4,765 PPD
 Eff. Time / Frame : 00:14:04 - 4,556 PPD

7471 ppd with both SMP and GPU, 7132 with SMP only. I've tried GPU + SMP with 9.10, 10.04 and 10.10 with the same results. 9.04 works and that's why all the guides recommend using it.
 
ahh. i have arch... its arch based haha. but its kernel 2.6.35.8... so not worth it?
 
ChasR said:
Answer to threadjack:
FAH runs well on all the nVidia 96sp and up cards. The 8600GT, with only 32sp, runs into trouble on some WUs.

More threadjack (total and complete, sorry GIX):
If you're running a Debian based linux and are SMP folding, don't bother trying GPU folding on any kernel newer than 2.6.28 (shipped with Ubuntu 9.04). On the newer kernels, the gpu interferes with SMP folding to a degree that the net gain from adding the gpu is less than 1000 ppd at a cost of 100+ watts power consumption.
I last tried GPU folding under wine with an 8800GT on a Q6600 @ 3.24 along with SMP folding using Ubuntu 10.10 and the latest nVidia drivers. Here's what happened:

SMP only performance:

Code: 
Project ID: 6701
 Core: GRO-A3
 Credit: 921
 Frames: 100


Name: CR L 1
 Path: \\Cr-l1\fah\SMP\
 Number of Frames Observed: 300

 Min. Time / Frame : 00:10:37 - 7,216 PPD
 Avg. Time / Frame : 00:10:42 - 7,132 PPD
 Cur. Time / Frame : 00:10:45 - 7,091 PPD
 R3F. Time / Frame : 00:10:43 - 7,113 PPD
 All  Time / Frame : 00:10:44 - 7,102 PPD
 Eff. Time / Frame : 00:10:47 - 7,069 PPD

8800GT only performance:
Code: 
Project ID: 6600
 Core: GROGPU2
 Credit: 450
 Frames: 100

 Name: CR-L1 8800GT
 Path: \\Cr-l1\fah\GPU\
 Number of Frames Observed: 13

 Min. Time / Frame : 00:01:32 - 4,226 PPD
 Avg. Time / Frame : 00:01:32 - 4,226 PPD
 Cur. Time / Frame : 00:01:32 - 4,226 PPD
 R3F. Time / Frame : 00:01:32 - 4,226 PPD
 All  Time / Frame : 00:01:32 - 4,226 PPD
 Eff. Time / Frame : 00:01:39 - 3,927 PPD

Performance with SMP (nice 19) and GPU (nice 13):

Code: 
Project ID: 6600
 Core: GROGPU2
 Credit: 450
 Frames: 100

Name: CR-L1 8800GT
 Path: \\Cr-l1\fah\GPU\
 Number of Frames Observed: 103

 Min. Time / Frame : 00:01:32 - 4,226 PPD
 Avg. Time / Frame : 00:01:32 - 4,226 PPD
 Cur. Time / Frame : 00:01:32 - 4,226 PPD
 R3F. Time / Frame : 00:01:32 - 4,226 PPD
 All  Time / Frame : 00:01:32 - 4,226 PPD
 Eff. Time / Frame : 00:01:41 - 3,850 PPD

Project ID: 6701
 Core: GRO-A3
 Credit: 921
 Frames: 100

Name: CR L 1
 Path: \\Cr-l1\fah\SMP\
 Number of Frames Observed: 300

 Min. Time / Frame : 00:10:37 - 7,216 PPD
 Avg. Time / Frame : 00:10:56 - 6,905 PPD
 [COLOR="Red"]Cur. Time / Frame : 00:19:45 - 3,245 PPD[/COLOR]!!
 R3F. Time / Frame : 00:15:44 - 4,073 PPD
 All  Time / Frame : 00:13:27 - 4,765 PPD
 Eff. Time / Frame : 00:14:04 - 4,556 PPD

7471 ppd with both SMP and GPU, 7132 with SMP only. I've tried GPU + SMP with 9.10, 10.04 and 10.10 with the same results. 9.04 works and that's why all the guides recommend using it.
Click to expand...

Shame on you for jacking my thread :D:attn:


I highly doubt it's my 1200 Zeus with only the motheboard, proc, ram, and fans being ran! I'm guessing something isn't stable with the clock. I have tomorrow off and might tinker with it for a while and see what I can figure out.

temps are normal btw!
 
At least I acknowledged I was jacking the thread and it was useful info if not pertinent.

Pertinent to the thread:
It's not real unusual to have the max stable overclock degrade over time. Caps age, vr's age, PS's start to ripple. FAH pushes everything to the max and that ages it a bit faster when combined with a high OC.
 
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