Adding a GTX 465 to the loop

BugFreak · 11-06-10, 08:56 AM

I am running my sig pc right now but it seems I need to upgrade my video card for some one of the new games coming out. Or at least to run them at the levels I like. I think I am going to go with a GTX 465, will my current radiators handle it or should I consider replacing the single with another duel? I am running push/pull on the single and only push on the duel at this time. The processor will remain at the current o/c and the vid card may get a little o/c...

m0r7if3r · 11-06-10, 09:16 AM

Have you looked at the gtx465 to gtx460 comparisons?

I'd say you probably need more rad...how do your temps look right now?

BugFreak · 11-06-10, 09:37 AM

Yes, I have compared the two. In terms of cost to performance the 465 is closer to the 470 and I get 256 interface vs the 192 of the 460. The cost to go up is minimal as well.

My current temps are 19c on the cpu and 42 gpu with almost silent fan operation.

m0r7if3r · 11-06-10, 09:44 AM

long as you're not gonna realize it later. I just checked, the TDP of an 8800gt is 105w and the tdp of a gtx465 is 200w (those are quick googling numbers, could be off, I didn't crosscompare or anything), so you're effectively doubling the heat dump of the gfx into the loop. The way I would go about this would be to add the card first, see how the temps look, then if you need it add the rad...unless you lose money on shipping that way or smn.

Gunlance · 11-06-10, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BugFreak

Yes, I have compared the two. In terms of cost to performance the 465 is closer to the 470 and I get 256 interface vs the 192 of the 460. The cost to go up is minimal as well.

My current temps are 19c on the cpu and 42 gpu with almost silent fan operation.

the gtx 460 1gb has a 256 interface.

good chart can be found here
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...mi,2684-2.html

BugFreak · 11-06-10, 02:03 PM

Yup, I realize that Gun but the cost when upgrading to the 256 version of the 460 is almost equal to the 465 with more benefits. I figure why not go for the 465 at that cost. At least from what I have found... or am I misreading because I would love to save cash on the rest of this build?

Now back to the radiator issue...Any thoughts?

Wega! · 11-06-10, 03:09 PM

You could start out with just adding 2 more fans to the RX240 and see how that works out.

Conumdrum · 11-06-10, 03:14 PM

19C on the CPU? How do you figure that? Most AMD CPUs load in the 50's with your setup under load. What are you measuring it with? What are you loading the CPU with?

BugFreak · 11-06-10, 04:02 PM

Using Core Temp, should I use other?

m0r7if3r · 11-06-10, 04:05 PM

core temp is fine, what are you loading with?

BugFreak · 11-06-10, 04:07 PM

Updated it with a pic but I don't understand the loaded with? I have used OCCT to test load it if that is what you mean.

Wega! · 11-06-10, 04:08 PM

Looks like nothing, it says 0% load... Fire up some Prime95, or start folding

QuietIce · 11-06-10, 04:09 PM

Yes, what is your temp in OCCT when it's running? Still mid-30's ...?

Wega! · 11-06-10, 04:09 PM

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Updated it with a pic but I don't understand the loaded with? I have used OCCT to test load it if that is what you mean.

Yes what kind og temps are you getting after running the CPU at 100% load for 30 mins?

BugFreak · 11-06-10, 04:10 PM

Update here in 30min...

BugFreak · 11-06-10, 04:44 PM

Ok I hit 31 max under OCCT. I would add a couple to that because it is a little cooler outside but that sounds about right from my stress tests when initially doing the o/c.

Conumdrum · 11-06-10, 06:00 PM

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Ok I hit 31 max under OCCT. I would add a couple to that because it is a little cooler outside but that sounds about right from my stress tests when initially doing the o/c.

You ran the test for 30 min? OCCT is enough for a load for normal use. You need 30 min for water temps to stabilize. And Coretemp is all thats availble for AMD processors, and it works right. Just to make sure, make sure you have the latest coretemp program too.

You'll be fine with the ONE GPU added to the loop, might need bit better fans, give it a try.

BugFreak · 11-06-10, 06:52 PM

Yes, I also have ran this same setup for 8 hours with the same results. Here is the 30min from earlier. Also I have been running this setup for a little over a month now with good reliability.

Thanks for the input on the fans though. I was trying to avoid rebuilding it after I get everything in there and do a one time tear down/test period but it seems multiple will be the only option here.

QuietIce · 11-07-10, 01:49 AM

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And Coretemp is all thats availble for AMD processors, and it works right.

HWMonitor also reads core temps - though I still prefer Core Temp.

And, of course, OCCT reads them as well ...

Wega! · 11-07-10, 02:04 AM

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Thanks for the input on the fans though. I was trying to avoid rebuilding it after I get everything in there and do a one time tear down/test period but it seems multiple will be the only option here.

Well you have some very nice temps there, and if you dont mind that they will make a jump when you add the GTX465, I think you will be fine with your current rads. If not you still have the option to add two more fans to the double rad, thats pretty easy to do, and is not what I consider "rebuilding".

11-06-10, 08:56 AM	Thread Starter #1
BugFreak Join Date: Apr 2010	Adding a GTX 465 to the loop I am running my sig pc right now but it seems I need to upgrade my video card for some one of the new games coming out. Or at least to run them at the levels I like. I think I am going to go with a GTX 465, will my current radiators handle it or should I consider replacing the single with another duel? I am running push/pull on the single and only push on the duel at this time. The processor will remain at the current o/c and the vid card may get a little o/c... __________________ AMD Phenom 1055T @ 3.6 ASUS M4A89TD Pro @ 301 Bus Mushkin Redline 996999 PC31600 7,8,7,24 1T eVGA nVidia 460 GTX XSPC Rasa, MCP 655, Thermochill 120.1, XSPC RX240, EK FC460 GTX Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. -Albert Einstein
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11-06-10, 09:16 AM	#2
m0r7if3r Member Water Cooling Sticky Reading Enforcement Official Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Marietta, GA	Have you looked at the gtx465 to gtx460 comparisons? I'd say you probably need more rad...how do your temps look right now? __________________ If years were seasons, this December would be the December of our December. -Abed #sixseasonsandamovie Heat
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11-06-10, 09:37 AM	Thread Starter #3
BugFreak Join Date: Apr 2010	Yes, I have compared the two. In terms of cost to performance the 465 is closer to the 470 and I get 256 interface vs the 192 of the 460. The cost to go up is minimal as well. My current temps are 19c on the cpu and 42 gpu with almost silent fan operation. __________________ AMD Phenom 1055T @ 3.6 ASUS M4A89TD Pro @ 301 Bus Mushkin Redline 996999 PC31600 7,8,7,24 1T eVGA nVidia 460 GTX XSPC Rasa, MCP 655, Thermochill 120.1, XSPC RX240, EK FC460 GTX Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. -Albert Einstein
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11-06-10, 09:44 AM	#4
m0r7if3r Member Water Cooling Sticky Reading Enforcement Official Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Marietta, GA	long as you're not gonna realize it later. I just checked, the TDP of an 8800gt is 105w and the tdp of a gtx465 is 200w (those are quick googling numbers, could be off, I didn't crosscompare or anything), so you're effectively doubling the heat dump of the gfx into the loop. The way I would go about this would be to add the card first, see how the temps look, then if you need it add the rad...unless you lose money on shipping that way or smn. __________________ If years were seasons, this December would be the December of our December. -Abed #sixseasonsandamovie Heat
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11-06-10, 02:03 PM	Thread Starter #6
BugFreak Join Date: Apr 2010	Yup, I realize that Gun but the cost when upgrading to the 256 version of the 460 is almost equal to the 465 with more benefits. I figure why not go for the 465 at that cost. At least from what I have found... or am I misreading because I would love to save cash on the rest of this build? Now back to the radiator issue...Any thoughts? __________________ AMD Phenom 1055T @ 3.6 ASUS M4A89TD Pro @ 301 Bus Mushkin Redline 996999 PC31600 7,8,7,24 1T eVGA nVidia 460 GTX XSPC Rasa, MCP 655, Thermochill 120.1, XSPC RX240, EK FC460 GTX Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. -Albert Einstein Last edited by BugFreak; 11-06-10 at 02:09 PM.
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11-06-10, 04:02 PM	Thread Starter #9
BugFreak Join Date: Apr 2010	Using Core Temp, should I use other? __________________ AMD Phenom 1055T @ 3.6 ASUS M4A89TD Pro @ 301 Bus Mushkin Redline 996999 PC31600 7,8,7,24 1T eVGA nVidia 460 GTX XSPC Rasa, MCP 655, Thermochill 120.1, XSPC RX240, EK FC460 GTX Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. -Albert Einstein
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m0r7if3r Member Water Cooling Sticky Reading Enforcement Official Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Marietta, GA	core temp is fine, what are you loading with? __________________ If years were seasons, this December would be the December of our December. -Abed #sixseasonsandamovie Heat
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11-06-10, 04:07 PM	Thread Starter #11
BugFreak Join Date: Apr 2010	Updated it with a pic but I don't understand the loaded with? I have used OCCT to test load it if that is what you mean. __________________ AMD Phenom 1055T @ 3.6 ASUS M4A89TD Pro @ 301 Bus Mushkin Redline 996999 PC31600 7,8,7,24 1T eVGA nVidia 460 GTX XSPC Rasa, MCP 655, Thermochill 120.1, XSPC RX240, EK FC460 GTX Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. -Albert Einstein
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Wega! Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Denmark!	Looks like nothing, it says 0% load... Fire up some Prime95, or start folding __________________ You say Lady Gaga, I say Dash Berlin You say Hannah Montana, I say Orjan Nilsen You say Owl City, I say Above & Beyond You say Justin Bieber, I say Armin Van Buuren You say Taylor Swift, I say Dj Tiësto In Trance we trust! Benching mayhem: Asus Rampage Extreme, Gigabyte Ep45 UD3P, QX9650, Q9550, E6300, 4x Cedar Mill's, Corsair Dominators 2000Mhz 8-9-8-24, Crucial Ballistix DDR2, Asus GTX480, XFX GTX260, Inno 8800GTX, Zotac 8800GT, Piotres CPU pot, EK Supreme HF, MCW60 Mo-Ra 3 Pro, Ek DC 4.0 and a Corsair TX750 Daily driver: Asus P5Q Pro, Q8400, OCZ PC8000, GTX460, Enzotech Sapphire, EK GTX460 full block, XSPC res/pump and a HWLabs GTX480.
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QuietIce Disabled Join Date: May 2006 Location: Anywhere but there	Yes, what is your temp in OCCT when it's running? Still mid-30's ...?
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11-06-10, 04:10 PM	Thread Starter #15
BugFreak Join Date: Apr 2010	Update here in 30min... __________________ AMD Phenom 1055T @ 3.6 ASUS M4A89TD Pro @ 301 Bus Mushkin Redline 996999 PC31600 7,8,7,24 1T eVGA nVidia 460 GTX XSPC Rasa, MCP 655, Thermochill 120.1, XSPC RX240, EK FC460 GTX Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. -Albert Einstein
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11-06-10, 04:44 PM	Thread Starter #16
BugFreak Join Date: Apr 2010	Ok I hit 31 max under OCCT. I would add a couple to that because it is a little cooler outside but that sounds about right from my stress tests when initially doing the o/c. __________________ AMD Phenom 1055T @ 3.6 ASUS M4A89TD Pro @ 301 Bus Mushkin Redline 996999 PC31600 7,8,7,24 1T eVGA nVidia 460 GTX XSPC Rasa, MCP 655, Thermochill 120.1, XSPC RX240, EK FC460 GTX Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. -Albert Einstein
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11-06-10, 06:52 PM	Thread Starter #18
BugFreak Join Date: Apr 2010	Yes, I also have ran this same setup for 8 hours with the same results. Here is the 30min from earlier. Also I have been running this setup for a little over a month now with good reliability. Thanks for the input on the fans though. I was trying to avoid rebuilding it after I get everything in there and do a one time tear down/test period but it seems multiple will be the only option here. __________________ AMD Phenom 1055T @ 3.6 ASUS M4A89TD Pro @ 301 Bus Mushkin Redline 996999 PC31600 7,8,7,24 1T eVGA nVidia 460 GTX XSPC Rasa, MCP 655, Thermochill 120.1, XSPC RX240, EK FC460 GTX Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. -Albert Einstein
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