[SinCitiesSin]

Ok hey guys i've had the 480 for a while now and im wanting to water cool. my only exp with wc is i have an H50 lol but i'd like to get serious i am restricted by my case Azza helios 910 but i can put this in(see attachment). This is also in my budget i had it priced out by a person at a local enthusiast shop who water cools a lot. My question before i buy it is is this a good deal a good block will if provide enough cooling to ramp the card up to 882/1762/2256 while keeping temps under 80 degrees. To make it fit in my case i plan to remove my hdd cage and mount the dual 140mm rad in the front of the case(intaking air from the front with 2 140mm fans obviously) i then plan to mount my hdd behind the rad or by the psu not sure yet and cause i have extra fans i was gonna put the rad in a push pull config (will that help) with the case i have intake in the bottom and i cut out a new hole in the top of the case so that there is now a 140 and a 120 mm exhaust on the top. Id like your honest opinions.

Ps system.
Asus P7P55D Pro mb
i7 860 @ 4gHz with H50 push pull
4gb g.skill pi series @ 1940mHz
160bg main drive
1tb storage
1000w silverstone strider psu
ASUS GTX 480
BFG GTS 250 physX
Case Azza Helios 910

[m0r7if3r]

http://skinneelabs.com/gtx480-fc.html

[Conumdrum]

So, the person who made this list watercools a lot? Really?
The rad he chose is very out of date, poor air and water flow charecteristics. It's a bad choice for a rad.
This rad is only $40, and a MUCH better performer. And there are even better ones, at more money. You are welcome to learn about radiators and fans, a good start is Skinneelabs.com. Get a drink and spend a few days learning.
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swmcqupo2x.html

Feser non conductive snake oil liquid that does nothing but wastes your money and clog blocks? Your money, your nightmare.

Distilled water and a biocide is a smarter choice. $6.

That pump res combo is pretty weak, but just for a GPU it's fine. Not the best quality by far.

And m0r gave you a very important link you can learn to decide yourself. But your GPU block choice is a good one.

And IF you might plan to go to SLI 480, better look at DOUBLING your rad size from a smallish 120x2 size.

[SinCitiesSin]

so after reading a bit i found this http://ncix.com/products/index.php?s...re=THERMALTAKE how is it compared to the previous the flow rate is over double and the sizes for fittings and barbs are teh same as before and its thermaltake. im doing my research slowly but are there and specific pumps or reses i should look into considering my cases size limitations? they dont need to be in one unit just need to fit lol

[m0r7if3r]

we have a saying around here that friends don't let friends buy thermaltake...they make the occasional golden egg, but it's mostly lemons...and bad ones at that...personally, I avoid everything of theirs, regardless of reviews. I can tell you they inflate numbers on their pumps and fans like you wouldn't believe. Good pumps are the mcp355/ddc and the mcp 655/d5

[Conumdrum]

Yep, you need to step back and decide if you want to really watercool. If you do, then you better jump in with both feet, a pad of paper, a few weeks of learning. Then you'll understand.

Please start here, bookmark each link and read, don't gloss one teeny bit, dig deep, reread till your at least comfortable with the terminoligies and some of the good parts out there. Right now you know it's watercooled, but you haven't got a single clue whats needed under the hood.

We'll help you a lot but untimately it's your stuff, we can get tired (we do) of the same questions day after day. Sometimes we just give up. We really respond to folks who realize it's up to them and take the time to learn. Your not special, your just another of many we will try to help build a great watercooled rig. What happens is up to you.

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/s...96&postcount=3




Ohh take my reply from your 'experts' input and let him read it.....

[SinCitiesSin]

from reading about cleaning does the rad and other oarts absoultely need to be cleaned with distilled water??

[m0r7if3r]

people will give you different opinions, i'd say that you don't needa use distilled except for your final wash.

[SinCitiesSin]

The distiller water is non conductive correct? Thats why its recomended?
And can where do you buy it lol I'm going to read more

[m0r7if3r]

Nothing will be nonconductive in your loop, not feser, not distilled, nothin. Distilled is recommended because it won't clog your loop.

[SinCitiesSin]

So the gtx 480 has a heat wattage output that is super high so my loop has to be able to remove that heat I get that. And to have a good loop I want a delta T of 5 degrees which is the difference between ambient room temps and the water temp leaving the rad I get all that but now I'm not sure which parts to look into is there a forum about how to pick a pump res tubing ect?

[m0r7if3r]

this is the watercooling board...what issues are you having with picking a pump and tubing?

[SinCitiesSin]

well at most i can fit is a dual 140m rad so that should be easy to pick out i;ll just read reviews but for the pump what do i want for flow rate? Obviously higher = better i want the pump to be able to puxh through what im cooling and the size of the res is that important im getting a good handle of what i need to get a pump a res tubes distilled water fittings barbs clams on the block but how can you tell if a res/ pump is good or not it cant be only based on the flow rate its never that simple.