Questions about a Kingpin pot

Wega! · 01-09-11, 03:20 PM

Please take a look at this pot (Pic takes some time to load) : http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/2176/salg.png

Is that pot made for DICE or LN2? And how can i see if it's for one thing or the other?
What would a fair price be for this particular pot?
Is it a good pot?
Would it be a good place to start if someone wanted to try out DICE?

Hardass · 01-09-11, 03:35 PM

Mind if I ask why you think that is a Kingpin pot?

cold.nut · 01-09-11, 03:37 PM

that looks like it is an original F1 (prototype). not F1EE edition though.

great pot!

Wega! · 01-09-11, 03:41 PM

Hardass: He he because the sellers says it is a kingpin pot

I know nothing about pot's myself, thats why I'm asking all these questions about it

You dont think it's a Kingpin?

cold.nut: Ok, sounds good

Is it made for DICE or LN2? Or can it be used for both?

Hardass · 01-09-11, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Wega!

Hardass: He he because the sellers says it is a kingpin pot

I know nothing about pot's myself, thats why I'm asking all these questions about it

You dont think it's a Kingpin?

cold.nut: Ok, sounds good

Is it made for DICE or LN2? Or can it be used for both?

I asked because I can not tell what it is by that pic. cold.nut seems to be sure so will leave it to him to answer.

Bobnova · 01-09-11, 03:57 PM

I've never seen that pot before. It's half aluminum half copper, rectangular, light, and the base looks vaguely like the early F1.

I wouldn't buy it unless it is very cheap indeed.

Any pot can be used for both, but that one lacks the surface area to be good with high heat cpus on dice and the mass to be good with mid to high heat cpus on ln2.

It'll be workable for both, but better can be had.

ChanceCoats123 · 01-09-11, 04:00 PM

As has been stated, I'm not quite sure what brand of pot that is. Possibly an early, early KP pot, but definitely not recent, and definitely not an F1. IIRC, from the beginning, the F1 and the F1EE have been milled from solid Cu. The only cpu pots of KP, I know of, that are Al + Cu are the Venom and the Dragon Evo.

Wega! · 01-09-11, 04:07 PM

He is asking $145 for it.

Hardass · 01-09-11, 04:15 PM

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He is asking $145 for it.

Our bench team members say this is one of the best DICE pots out at the moment.
http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...product_id=972

Bobnova · 01-09-11, 05:13 PM

I wouldn't pay more then maybe 75 bucks for it.
I love my koolance rev2 though. It has it's issues (has a fat bottom, mostly, and the stock threaded rods are dubious at best though easily replaceable), but it can keep a 980x nice and cold so i forgive it

ChanceCoats123 · 01-09-11, 09:23 PM

Definitely. For that many monies, V2 all the way.

m0r7if3r · 01-09-11, 09:26 PM

I know the F1 (pre f1ee) had F1 cut into it...but it was solid copper. this might be a prototype of that or something. Regardless, it's not a great pot and certainly not worth that amount of money for dice...might be worth it for nostalgia

Wega! · 01-10-11, 01:12 AM

Ok, thanks guys

I'm gonna let this one go then, unless he is willing to go down in price. Problem is that there are not very many pots for sale in EU, and I havent been able to find one sigle reseller of Koolance that also sells their pots. But I'm not in a hurry, so something else should turn up sometime

cold.nut · 01-10-11, 08:36 AM

you guys are right on the F1 design. however, the key word was "Prototype F1". if I recall, Vince was experimenting with Cu/Al and just plain Cu. This happened to be a Cu/Al mix.

thats my input!

Seebs · 01-10-11, 02:41 PM

FWIW...
Neuromancer has a Gemini listed in the classies for $200... If you're planning on getting your feet wet that would definitely be a better investment.

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/s...d.php?t=665255

hokiealumnus · 01-10-11, 03:07 PM

Depends on how much it is to ship to Denmark.

Wega, if that shipping is cost-prohibitive, look into a Duniek or a BartX unit. They both operate out of Europe AFAIK.

nzaneb · 01-10-11, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hokiealumnus

look into a Duniek or a BartX unit.

That

Wega! · 01-10-11, 04:34 PM

Shipping is a problem. I looked at the Koolance pot's but the shipping cost was just as much as the cheap pot they have.

The BartX looks like an option. With shipping I can get the Eco version for around $135, thats not too bad

Just need to find a plave where i can buy DI now... Called 5 different places today, with no result

EarthDog · 01-10-11, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Wega!

Called 5 different places today, with no result

http://www.dryicedirectory.com/Countries/Denmark.htm

m0r7if3r · 01-10-11, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Wega!

Shipping is a problem. I looked at the Koolance pot's but the shipping cost was just as much as the cheap pot they have.

The BartX looks like an option. With shipping I can get the Eco version for around $135, thats not too bad

Just need to find a plave where i can buy DI now... Called 5 different places today, with no result

I'd recommend against buying new, fwiw. You can get better stuff for the same price if you go used (not sure if you are looking at new stuff or used stuff, just figured i'd throw it out there)

01-09-11, 03:20 PM	Thread Starter #1
Wega! Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Denmark!	Questions about a Kingpin pot Please take a look at this pot (Pic takes some time to load) : http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/2176/salg.png Is that pot made for DICE or LN2? And how can i see if it's for one thing or the other? What would a fair price be for this particular pot? Is it a good pot? Would it be a good place to start if someone wanted to try out DICE? __________________ You say Lady Gaga, I say Dash Berlin You say Hannah Montana, I say Orjan Nilsen You say Owl City, I say Above & Beyond You say Justin Bieber, I say Armin Van Buuren You say Taylor Swift, I say Dj Tiësto In Trance we trust! Benching mayhem: Asus Rampage Extreme, Gigabyte Ep45 UD3P, QX9650, Q9550, E6300, 4x Cedar Mill's, Corsair Dominators 2000Mhz 8-9-8-24, Crucial Ballistix DDR2, Asus GTX480, XFX GTX260, Inno 8800GTX, Zotac 8800GT, Piotres CPU pot, EK Supreme HF, MCW60 Mo-Ra 3 Pro, Ek DC 4.0 and a Corsair TX750 Daily driver: Asus P5Q Pro, Q8400, OCZ PC8000, GTX460, Enzotech Sapphire, EK GTX460 full block, XSPC res/pump and a HWLabs GTX480.
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01-09-11, 03:35 PM	#2
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01-09-11, 03:37 PM	#3
cold.nut Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Utah	that looks like it is an original F1 (prototype). not F1EE edition though. great pot! __________________ HeatWare "If you aren't having fun, then you're doing it wrong!"
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01-09-11, 03:41 PM	Thread Starter #4
Wega! Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Denmark!	Hardass: He he because the sellers says it is a kingpin pot I know nothing about pot's myself, thats why I'm asking all these questions about it You dont think it's a Kingpin? cold.nut: Ok, sounds good Is it made for DICE or LN2? Or can it be used for both? __________________ You say Lady Gaga, I say Dash Berlin You say Hannah Montana, I say Orjan Nilsen You say Owl City, I say Above & Beyond You say Justin Bieber, I say Armin Van Buuren You say Taylor Swift, I say Dj Tiësto In Trance we trust! Benching mayhem: Asus Rampage Extreme, Gigabyte Ep45 UD3P, QX9650, Q9550, E6300, 4x Cedar Mill's, Corsair Dominators 2000Mhz 8-9-8-24, Crucial Ballistix DDR2, Asus GTX480, XFX GTX260, Inno 8800GTX, Zotac 8800GT, Piotres CPU pot, EK Supreme HF, MCW60 Mo-Ra 3 Pro, Ek DC 4.0 and a Corsair TX750 Daily driver: Asus P5Q Pro, Q8400, OCZ PC8000, GTX460, Enzotech Sapphire, EK GTX460 full block, XSPC res/pump and a HWLabs GTX480.
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01-09-11, 03:57 PM	#6
Bobnova Air Superiority Senior Member Benching Team Leader Join Date: May 2009 Location: Humboldt	I've never seen that pot before. It's half aluminum half copper, rectangular, light, and the base looks vaguely like the early F1. I wouldn't buy it unless it is very cheap indeed. Any pot can be used for both, but that one lacks the surface area to be good with high heat cpus on dice and the mass to be good with mid to high heat cpus on ln2. It'll be workable for both, but better can be had. __________________ "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." -- Einstein (maybe) How to check your PSU with a multimeter. 17bXw5t51rEBXGavJFMJsC8g7HQgThUGc7 Heatware.
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01-09-11, 04:00 PM	#7
ChanceCoats123 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Illinois	As has been stated, I'm not quite sure what brand of pot that is. Possibly an early, early KP pot, but definitely not recent, and definitely not an F1. IIRC, from the beginning, the F1 and the F1EE have been milled from solid Cu. The only cpu pots of KP, I know of, that are Al + Cu are the Venom and the Dragon Evo. __________________ Ed - "Aight it's pulling down... Thing is really tuned for LN2 though." This is the team you are looking for... 1EeNkR3VPihwHCGt2VKSjJHetiKHZt9U1e
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01-09-11, 04:07 PM	Thread Starter #8
Wega! Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Denmark!	He is asking $145 for it. __________________ You say Lady Gaga, I say Dash Berlin You say Hannah Montana, I say Orjan Nilsen You say Owl City, I say Above & Beyond You say Justin Bieber, I say Armin Van Buuren You say Taylor Swift, I say Dj Tiësto In Trance we trust! Benching mayhem: Asus Rampage Extreme, Gigabyte Ep45 UD3P, QX9650, Q9550, E6300, 4x Cedar Mill's, Corsair Dominators 2000Mhz 8-9-8-24, Crucial Ballistix DDR2, Asus GTX480, XFX GTX260, Inno 8800GTX, Zotac 8800GT, Piotres CPU pot, EK Supreme HF, MCW60 Mo-Ra 3 Pro, Ek DC 4.0 and a Corsair TX750 Daily driver: Asus P5Q Pro, Q8400, OCZ PC8000, GTX460, Enzotech Sapphire, EK GTX460 full block, XSPC res/pump and a HWLabs GTX480.
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01-09-11, 05:13 PM	#10
Bobnova Air Superiority Senior Member Benching Team Leader Join Date: May 2009 Location: Humboldt	I wouldn't pay more then maybe 75 bucks for it. I love my koolance rev2 though. It has it's issues (has a fat bottom, mostly, and the stock threaded rods are dubious at best though easily replaceable), but it can keep a 980x nice and cold so i forgive it __________________ "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." -- Einstein (maybe) How to check your PSU with a multimeter. 17bXw5t51rEBXGavJFMJsC8g7HQgThUGc7 Heatware.
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01-09-11, 09:23 PM	#11
ChanceCoats123 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Illinois	Definitely. For that many monies, V2 all the way. __________________ Ed - "Aight it's pulling down... Thing is really tuned for LN2 though." This is the team you are looking for... 1EeNkR3VPihwHCGt2VKSjJHetiKHZt9U1e
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01-09-11, 09:26 PM	#12
m0r7if3r Member Water Cooling Sticky Reading Enforcement Official Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Marietta, GA	I know the F1 (pre f1ee) had F1 cut into it...but it was solid copper. this might be a prototype of that or something. Regardless, it's not a great pot and certainly not worth that amount of money for dice...might be worth it for nostalgia __________________ If years were seasons, this December would be the December of our December. -Abed #sixseasonsandamovie Heat
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01-10-11, 01:12 AM	Thread Starter #13
Wega! Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Denmark!	Ok, thanks guys I'm gonna let this one go then, unless he is willing to go down in price. Problem is that there are not very many pots for sale in EU, and I havent been able to find one sigle reseller of Koolance that also sells their pots. But I'm not in a hurry, so something else should turn up sometime __________________ You say Lady Gaga, I say Dash Berlin You say Hannah Montana, I say Orjan Nilsen You say Owl City, I say Above & Beyond You say Justin Bieber, I say Armin Van Buuren You say Taylor Swift, I say Dj Tiësto In Trance we trust! Benching mayhem: Asus Rampage Extreme, Gigabyte Ep45 UD3P, QX9650, Q9550, E6300, 4x Cedar Mill's, Corsair Dominators 2000Mhz 8-9-8-24, Crucial Ballistix DDR2, Asus GTX480, XFX GTX260, Inno 8800GTX, Zotac 8800GT, Piotres CPU pot, EK Supreme HF, MCW60 Mo-Ra 3 Pro, Ek DC 4.0 and a Corsair TX750 Daily driver: Asus P5Q Pro, Q8400, OCZ PC8000, GTX460, Enzotech Sapphire, EK GTX460 full block, XSPC res/pump and a HWLabs GTX480.
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01-10-11, 08:36 AM	#14
cold.nut Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Utah	you guys are right on the F1 design. however, the key word was "Prototype F1". if I recall, Vince was experimenting with Cu/Al and just plain Cu. This happened to be a Cu/Al mix. thats my input! __________________ HeatWare "If you aren't having fun, then you're doing it wrong!"
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01-10-11, 02:41 PM	#15
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01-10-11, 03:07 PM	#16
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01-10-11, 04:34 PM	Thread Starter #18
Wega! Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Denmark!	Shipping is a problem. I looked at the Koolance pot's but the shipping cost was just as much as the cheap pot they have. The BartX looks like an option. With shipping I can get the Eco version for around $135, thats not too bad Just need to find a plave where i can buy DI now... Called 5 different places today, with no result __________________ You say Lady Gaga, I say Dash Berlin You say Hannah Montana, I say Orjan Nilsen You say Owl City, I say Above & Beyond You say Justin Bieber, I say Armin Van Buuren You say Taylor Swift, I say Dj Tiësto In Trance we trust! Benching mayhem: Asus Rampage Extreme, Gigabyte Ep45 UD3P, QX9650, Q9550, E6300, 4x Cedar Mill's, Corsair Dominators 2000Mhz 8-9-8-24, Crucial Ballistix DDR2, Asus GTX480, XFX GTX260, Inno 8800GTX, Zotac 8800GT, Piotres CPU pot, EK Supreme HF, MCW60 Mo-Ra 3 Pro, Ek DC 4.0 and a Corsair TX750 Daily driver: Asus P5Q Pro, Q8400, OCZ PC8000, GTX460, Enzotech Sapphire, EK GTX460 full block, XSPC res/pump and a HWLabs GTX480.
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