CPU Replacement

Hrobakca · 04-03-11, 09:34 PM

Currently im running a AMD Phenom II X2 550 BE 3.1 GHZ

any sugggestions??

Im Running a ASUS M4A78 Plus MOBO

trents · 04-03-11, 10:00 PM

What's your price range?

QuietIce · 04-04-11, 09:13 AM

Does that board have the ability to unlock the CPU? If not, you might consider a low-cost board that does. No guarantees of course but if your CPU will unlock it would be a cheaper solution than an upgraded CPU.

cfh1973 · 04-04-11, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by QuietIce

Does that board have the ability to unlock the CPU? If not, you might consider a low-cost board that does. No guarantees of course but if your CPU will unlock it would be a cheaper solution than an upgraded CPU.

I agree. I looked up your board and you do not have the chipset to unlock. I would spend your money on a MOBO that has a chipset that allows the unlocking of your other cores.

saint19 · 04-04-11, 12:04 PM

The mobo doesn't comes with core unlocker and spend money in a mobo with it is waste money in old technology unless that he goes with AM3 mobo, that also will means new DDR3 RAM.

I join to trents question, I think that best option here is a CPU X3 with L3 cache or wait for BD.

jstutman · 04-04-11, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by saint19

The mobo doesn't comes with core unlocker and spend money in a mobo with it is waste money in old technology unless that he goes with AM3 mobo, that also will means new DDR3 RAM.

I join to trents question, I think that best option here is a CPU X3 with L3 cache or wait for BD.

Agree.

Especially, with the possibility your unlocked core is unstable. I bet you would feel very happy spending money on a new MB for nothing

X3 or wait for BD

Hrobakca · 04-04-11, 01:37 PM

recomennd any good boards that will fit in my case? apevia dream 2 case

saint19 · 04-04-11, 02:30 PM

If this: http://www.apevia.com/searchresult.a...s=DREAMER%20II is your case and you want still use your current DDR2 RAM, I suggest your go with a MSI K9A2 Platinum: http://www.yourstoreonline.net/atx_a...omp=googlebase

Yeah, it's expensive but a very good mobo but very hard to find one new since this mobo is AM2/AM2+ socket.

Hrobakca · 04-04-11, 03:19 PM

Well my current board will support 16GB RAM

QuietIce · 04-04-11, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by saint19

If this: http://www.apevia.com/searchresult.a...s=DREAMER%20II is your case and you want still use your current DDR2 RAM, I suggest your go with a MSI K9A2 Platinum: http://www.yourstoreonline.net/atx_a...omp=googlebase

Yeah, it's expensive but a very good mobo but very hard to find one new since this mobo is AM2/AM2+ socket.

Are you sure that board will unlock X2's???

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Originally Posted by Hrobakca

recomennd any good boards that will fit in my case? apevia dream 2 case

Almost any board will fit that case. The real question here is what do you use the machine for? If it's just gaming you already have a good gaming chip (for most games) but maybe need a better board to get a higher overclock - and see if you can unlock to a quad. If you use it for video encoding, newer games, or anything else that uses more than two cores then you should probably go with a quad - maybe a 645 if you want to keep it cheap?

saint19 · 04-04-11, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by QuietIce

Are you sure that board will unlock X2's???

Almost any board will fit that case. The real question here is what do you use the machine for? If it's just gaming you already have a good gaming chip (for most games) but maybe need a better board to get a higher overclock - and see if you can unlock to a quad. If you use it for video encoding, newer games, or anything else that uses more than two cores then you should probably go with a quad - maybe a 645 if you want to keep it cheap?

Sorry, I just took in mind the part of "fit in my case", I forgot the unlock feature. I was recommended that mobo for overclock the current CPU without unlock and support AM3 line until 1090T with BIOS update.

Mjolnir · 04-04-11, 11:22 PM

What's the issue though that's making you think about replacing it? If its just gaming, save your money for now. If you do multi-threaded tasks, then think about an upgrade.. But for gaming you'll find that the HD4870 + your Dual core are perfectly fine as a pair. You won't really see any huge bottlenecks.

If you're upgrading for the sake of upgrading, save up some money for a new machine altogether IMO. (Looking at a Sandy Bridge system here...)

Also have you OC'd the cpu at all? Do you have a custom cooler? if not, get one perhaps (something cheap, Cooler Master Hyper 212+ comes to mind) and do some OC'ing. Should be plenty really for just gaming..

Hrobakca · 04-05-11, 07:28 AM

I havent overclocked...yet a bit worried on how to do and also blowing the chip....and it is the Black edition i pulled it out and checked serial number on chip....only paid 230 for the system....and no cooler at all

trents · 04-05-11, 07:37 AM

Get the best 92 mm fan-based tower cooler you can for your CPU. Your case is too narrow to take the 120 mm fan-base tower coolers which are the best, of course.

Hrobakca · 04-09-11, 05:06 PM

well with no core unlocker....no sense overclocking

QuietIce · 04-09-11, 05:18 PM

Huh? That are lots of great dual-core gaming rigs out there running 4+ GHz. No reason not to overclock just because you can't get to a quad (with your current board).

Do the specific games/apps you have actually use more than two cores and, if so, how much of those cores do they use? Some games may use over two cores but don't use them much, so there's very little improvement from a dual-core to a quad.

wagex · 04-09-11, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by QuietIce

Huh? That are lots of great dual-core gaming rigs out there running 4+ GHz. No reason not to overclock just because you can't get to a quad (with your current board).

Do the specific games/apps you have actually use more than two cores and, if so, how much of those cores do they use? Some games may use over two cores but don't use them much, so there's very little improvement from a dual-core to a quad.

true that raising my brother e6750 dual core from 3.3 to 4ghz raised his black ops fps about 10-20 fps on the next video setting up

Hrobakca · 04-09-11, 06:17 PM

I just have no idea what to do to over clock the ram video card and cpu

saint19 · 04-09-11, 08:49 PM

For overclock the CPU we need use the BIOS and for the GPU I use MSI afterburner, works with all GPUs even if aren't MSI brand.

Before give you some advices about overclock, we need know something. What cooler do you have?, overclock with the stock cooler is a little risky because doesn't gives you good temps.

Hrobakca · 04-10-11, 07:48 AM

yea just a stock cooler

04-03-11, 09:34 PM	Thread Starter #1
Hrobakca Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Vandergrift PA	CPU Replacement Currently im running a AMD Phenom II X2 550 BE 3.1 GHZ any sugggestions?? Im Running a ASUS M4A78 Plus MOBO __________________ MOBO:ASrock Z77 Extreme 4 CPU:i5-3670k GPU:Radaeon 7950 Memory:G.Skill Ripjaw X 8GB Cooling:Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus PSU:Rosewill Green series 630w Case:Rosewill Challenger(almost too small with the cooler
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04-03-11, 10:00 PM	#2
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04-04-11, 09:13 AM	#3
QuietIce Disabled Join Date: May 2006 Location: Anywhere but there	Does that board have the ability to unlock the CPU? If not, you might consider a low-cost board that does. No guarantees of course but if your CPU will unlock it would be a cheaper solution than an upgraded CPU. Last edited by muddocktor; 06-04-12 at 12:18 PM.
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04-04-11, 12:04 PM	#5
saint19 Member Join Date: Mar 2011	The mobo doesn't comes with core unlocker and spend money in a mobo with it is waste money in old technology unless that he goes with AM3 mobo, that also will means new DDR3 RAM. I join to trents question, I think that best option here is a CPU X3 with L3 cache or wait for BD. __________________ CPU: Phenom II X6 1090T @ 3.8GHz with NB @ 3000MHz both using 1.325V Cooling: EK Supreme HF Full Nickel + MCP655-D5 + MCR320-QP Mobo: Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5 Rev. 2.0 with F4 BIOS GPU: MSI GTX 680 Lightning 2GB RAM: 2x2GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer 1600MHz 8-8-8-21-1T 1.65V SSD: Corsair Force GT 120GB HDD: 2x500GB Itachi 3Gb/s Case: Cooler Master HAF X PSU: Corsair AX1200 Windows 7 Pro x64 Cooler Master CPU Cooler fight : Hyper TX3 Evo vs 212 Evo
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04-04-11, 01:37 PM	Thread Starter #7
Hrobakca Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Vandergrift PA	recomennd any good boards that will fit in my case? apevia dream 2 case __________________ MOBO:ASrock Z77 Extreme 4 CPU:i5-3670k GPU:Radaeon 7950 Memory:G.Skill Ripjaw X 8GB Cooling:Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus PSU:Rosewill Green series 630w Case:Rosewill Challenger(almost too small with the cooler
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04-04-11, 02:30 PM	#8
saint19 Member Join Date: Mar 2011	If this: http://www.apevia.com/searchresult.a...s=DREAMER%20II is your case and you want still use your current DDR2 RAM, I suggest your go with a MSI K9A2 Platinum: http://www.yourstoreonline.net/atx_a...omp=googlebase Yeah, it's expensive but a very good mobo but very hard to find one new since this mobo is AM2/AM2+ socket. __________________ CPU: Phenom II X6 1090T @ 3.8GHz with NB @ 3000MHz both using 1.325V Cooling: EK Supreme HF Full Nickel + MCP655-D5 + MCR320-QP Mobo: Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5 Rev. 2.0 with F4 BIOS GPU: MSI GTX 680 Lightning 2GB RAM: 2x2GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer 1600MHz 8-8-8-21-1T 1.65V SSD: Corsair Force GT 120GB HDD: 2x500GB Itachi 3Gb/s Case: Cooler Master HAF X PSU: Corsair AX1200 Windows 7 Pro x64 Cooler Master CPU Cooler fight : Hyper TX3 Evo vs 212 Evo
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04-04-11, 03:19 PM	Thread Starter #9
Hrobakca Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Vandergrift PA	Well my current board will support 16GB RAM __________________ MOBO:ASrock Z77 Extreme 4 CPU:i5-3670k GPU:Radaeon 7950 Memory:G.Skill Ripjaw X 8GB Cooling:Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus PSU:Rosewill Green series 630w Case:Rosewill Challenger(almost too small with the cooler
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04-04-11, 11:22 PM	#12
Mjolnir Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia	What's the issue though that's making you think about replacing it? If its just gaming, save your money for now. If you do multi-threaded tasks, then think about an upgrade.. But for gaming you'll find that the HD4870 + your Dual core are perfectly fine as a pair. You won't really see any huge bottlenecks. If you're upgrading for the sake of upgrading, save up some money for a new machine altogether IMO. (Looking at a Sandy Bridge system here...) Also have you OC'd the cpu at all? Do you have a custom cooler? if not, get one perhaps (something cheap, Cooler Master Hyper 212+ comes to mind) and do some OC'ing. Should be plenty really for just gaming.. __________________ \m/ OverClockers mATX L33T Club \m/ Motherboard - Asus Maximus Gene V Z77 CPU - i5 2500K @ 4.5ghz 1.3v /w Corsair H60 SE + GT AP-13 /w Scythe Kaze Master Fan Controller (GT AP-13/AP 181) RAM - 8GB G Skill Ripjaws 1600mhz. GPU - Asus GTX 670 DCUII Storage - Samsung 840 Pro 256GB + 2TB Seagate Cuda. Case - Silverstone TJ08-E PSU - Corsair HX650 OS - Windows 7 Ult 64 Peripherals - Leopold FC700R Graphite Brown MX + G500 Mouse Screen(s) - Dell U2711 Audio - Audioengine 5+ + Audioengine D1 + Wharfdale SW150 /w Shure SRH 840 Headphones
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04-05-11, 07:28 AM	Thread Starter #13
Hrobakca Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Vandergrift PA	I havent overclocked...yet a bit worried on how to do and also blowing the chip....and it is the Black edition i pulled it out and checked serial number on chip....only paid 230 for the system....and no cooler at all __________________ MOBO:ASrock Z77 Extreme 4 CPU:i5-3670k GPU:Radaeon 7950 Memory:G.Skill Ripjaw X 8GB Cooling:Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus PSU:Rosewill Green series 630w Case:Rosewill Challenger(almost too small with the cooler
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04-05-11, 07:37 AM	#14
trents Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Centralia, WA	Get the best 92 mm fan-based tower cooler you can for your CPU. Your case is too narrow to take the 120 mm fan-base tower coolers which are the best, of course. __________________ Custom built desktop #1: Phenom II X4 960T Zosma unlocked to 6 cores/4.0 ghz/Noctua D14 CPU cooler/GSkill Ripjaws 1600 2x4gb/Asus M5A97 motherboard/Coolermaster HAF 912/case/OCZ 750W PSU/Nvidia 8800 GTS 640mb GPU/WD Caviar Black 500 GB hard drive Custom built desktop #2: PII X4 955 4.1 ghz, Asus M5A97 motherboard, Coolermaster Hyper 212 plus, Nvidia Geforce 220 video card, Enermax 465W PSU, 2x2gb PNY 1600 ram. Toshiba SatelliteL775 laptop/17.3" display, AMD 3400M APU, 8 gb of 1333 Jesus said, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but through me". John 14:6
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04-09-11, 05:06 PM	Thread Starter #15
Hrobakca Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Vandergrift PA	well with no core unlocker....no sense overclocking __________________ MOBO:ASrock Z77 Extreme 4 CPU:i5-3670k GPU:Radaeon 7950 Memory:G.Skill Ripjaw X 8GB Cooling:Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus PSU:Rosewill Green series 630w Case:Rosewill Challenger(almost too small with the cooler
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04-09-11, 05:18 PM	#16
QuietIce Disabled Join Date: May 2006 Location: Anywhere but there	Huh? That are lots of great dual-core gaming rigs out there running 4+ GHz. No reason not to overclock just because you can't get to a quad (with your current board). Do the specific games/apps you have actually use more than two cores and, if so, how much of those cores do they use? Some games may use over two cores but don't use them much, so there's very little improvement from a dual-core to a quad. Last edited by muddocktor; 06-04-12 at 12:20 PM.
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04-09-11, 06:17 PM	Thread Starter #18
Hrobakca Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Vandergrift PA	I just have no idea what to do to over clock the ram video card and cpu __________________ MOBO:ASrock Z77 Extreme 4 CPU:i5-3670k GPU:Radaeon 7950 Memory:G.Skill Ripjaw X 8GB Cooling:Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus PSU:Rosewill Green series 630w Case:Rosewill Challenger(almost too small with the cooler
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04-09-11, 08:49 PM	#19
saint19 Member Join Date: Mar 2011	For overclock the CPU we need use the BIOS and for the GPU I use MSI afterburner, works with all GPUs even if aren't MSI brand. Before give you some advices about overclock, we need know something. What cooler do you have?, overclock with the stock cooler is a little risky because doesn't gives you good temps. __________________ CPU: Phenom II X6 1090T @ 3.8GHz with NB @ 3000MHz both using 1.325V Cooling: EK Supreme HF Full Nickel + MCP655-D5 + MCR320-QP Mobo: Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5 Rev. 2.0 with F4 BIOS GPU: MSI GTX 680 Lightning 2GB RAM: 2x2GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer 1600MHz 8-8-8-21-1T 1.65V SSD: Corsair Force GT 120GB HDD: 2x500GB Itachi 3Gb/s Case: Cooler Master HAF X PSU: Corsair AX1200 Windows 7 Pro x64 Cooler Master CPU Cooler fight : Hyper TX3 Evo vs 212 Evo
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04-10-11, 07:48 AM	Thread Starter #20
Hrobakca Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Vandergrift PA	yea just a stock cooler __________________ MOBO:ASrock Z77 Extreme 4 CPU:i5-3670k GPU:Radaeon 7950 Memory:G.Skill Ripjaw X 8GB Cooling:Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus PSU:Rosewill Green series 630w Case:Rosewill Challenger(almost too small with the cooler
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