Prime stable for days.. 124 BSOD when idle...

repilce · 04-18-11, 07:17 PM

title basically says it..

can run prime blend or small fft for days, but when the computer sits idle.. it 124's... c states are off.. all power saving features disabled. as long as it's loaded.. things are great.. i've never had a problem like this...

let the Q&A begin..

Bobnova · 04-18-11, 07:48 PM

What's the vcore at load, and what's the vcore at idle?

repilce · 04-18-11, 07:50 PM

atm it's 1.385 @ load, 1.4 flat at idle.. did the same thing after a bout 2 weeks of "stability" before at 1.72v load 1.39idle after i had to shut down F@H to mess with my VM.. it seems my computer is stable under load.. and not at idle..

doz · 04-18-11, 07:50 PM

Lower the overclock, itll go away. I had the SAME issue. I dropped the overclock to 4.5ghz and no problems. I could play games all day long, prime95 all day long, linx all day, but idling it would BSOD, make no sense.

I got so frustrated I lowered the clock and it magically made it all better. Ive yet to figure it out or understand.

ChanceCoats123 · 04-18-11, 08:09 PM

124 is "paged_fault_in_non_paged_area" right? I would begin to wonder about the stability of your ram.

Woomack · 04-19-11, 01:52 AM

It's cpu related error for SB, usually happens when cpu voltage is too low. Even if cpu is in idle then one of cores can hit max clock for short time as it's never 0% load.
Try to set different LLC or check PLL voltage +/- 1 step.
Offset option with C states enabled is more stable from what I noticed.

mastrdrver · 04-20-11, 01:39 AM

124 can also be vvt related. Not sure on SB but from a handful of comments 124 could still be either vcore or vvt.

Before you do the below P95 stress go get HyperPi and see if it completes 32M digits without and error or bsod. HyperPi is what I use when I want to know if I even stand a chance when it comes to LinX, IBT, P95, etc.

I prefer to not only run Small FFTs but also the reverse equivalent:
1) From the main screen where you can select "Small FFTs", "Blend", etc select "Custom"
2) Set FFTs minimum to 512, maximum to 4096
3) If selected, uncheck "Run FFTs in place"
4) Open up task manager and enter (roughly) the most ram you can in to the field "Memory to use"

I set the maximum memory use by adding the current system usage plus 500MB. Vista and 7 will dump cached memory when it starts loading up to the max.

MIAHALLEN · 04-20-11, 09:55 AM

I concur...memory stability is suspect

theELVISCERATOR · 04-20-11, 10:25 AM

I got this to go away by raising VccIO thanks to someone on the forums...1.17 fixed it.

I lowered vcore 2 steps even and still no issues.

repilce · 05-02-11, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theELVISCERATOR

I got this to go away by raising VccIO thanks to someone on the forums...1.17 fixed it.

I lowered vcore 2 steps even and still no issues.

I somehow missed this post, I never have came back to this issue on mine, due to time/frustration, I have a week off coming up after this one though so i plan on re-visiting this problem.

You were having the same issue i described?

doz · 05-02-11, 09:49 PM

Going to give this a shot. I increased VccIO to 1.15v and it didnt help previously. Will try going a little higher I guess see if it helps.

theELVISCERATOR · 05-03-11, 02:40 PM

my issue came back...idle freezes it was the ram set at 1T at stock voltage!....set it to 2T and that really fixed it. (sigged ram). Gskill said to raise voltage up to 1.65 for ocing!.... no issues for days, so I will now ramp up memory and voltage and see what I can get away with....

repilce · 05-03-11, 06:32 PM

Well interestingly enough, It looks like I am on the right path to making my problem go away too.. currently testing back up to 4.6, but enabling c states and speed step have seemed so far to have corrected my "idle" error's.

Category 5 · 05-06-11, 05:40 PM

Had this on my i7 970 and a couple bumps in vcore seems to have fixed it. Was Prime stable for days and ITBT stable for 20 runs. Revisited ITBT to find that after about 50 or so runs it's fail. vcore up to 1.33 (4GHz) got me through 120 runs of ITBT and other issues have gone away too.

repilce · 05-06-11, 06:07 PM

Wow that's a super run of IBT..

I was good at 4.6 for some time(6 days) iirc going through the motions.. finally did have a 124, went in and changed vccio from set 1.05 (which fluctuated according to bios from 1.039 to 1.089

) to AUTO setting. So far I'm working on day# 4 so time will tell.

edit:// thinking now that 120 runs of IBT dont sound to bad, prime small fft get's mine hotter.. and i'm not quite satisfied with my loop temps although they are well withing spec.. we'll se what happens

04-18-11, 07:17 PM	Thread Starter #1
repilce Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: E600000 - E60000FF	Prime stable for days.. 124 BSOD when idle... title basically says it.. can run prime blend or small fft for days, but when the computer sits idle.. it 124's... c states are off.. all power saving features disabled. as long as it's loaded.. things are great.. i've never had a problem like this... let the Q&A begin.. __________________ It's got a cpu, mobo, ram, video card, and PSU... Black belt Ubercloxx0r My Heat
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04-18-11, 07:50 PM	Thread Starter #3
repilce Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: E600000 - E60000FF	atm it's 1.385 @ load, 1.4 flat at idle.. did the same thing after a bout 2 weeks of "stability" before at 1.72v load 1.39idle after i had to shut down F@H to mess with my VM.. it seems my computer is stable under load.. and not at idle.. __________________ It's got a cpu, mobo, ram, video card, and PSU... Black belt Ubercloxx0r My Heat
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04-18-11, 07:50 PM	#4
doz Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV	Lower the overclock, itll go away. I had the SAME issue. I dropped the overclock to 4.5ghz and no problems. I could play games all day long, prime95 all day long, linx all day, but idling it would BSOD, make no sense. I got so frustrated I lowered the clock and it magically made it all better. Ive yet to figure it out or understand. __________________ Asus P8P67 Intel i7-2600k @ 4.9ghz GSkill Ripjaws 8gb 1600mhz c8 EVGA GTX 680 OCZ Agility 2 240gb, Corsair Force 3 180gb, (2)WD 1tb Black HAF 932w/ Corsair HX750 Heat
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04-19-11, 01:52 AM	#6
Woomack Senior Memory Guru Premium Member #19 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Poznan, Poland	It's cpu related error for SB, usually happens when cpu voltage is too low. Even if cpu is in idle then one of cores can hit max clock for short time as it's never 0% load. Try to set different LLC or check PLL voltage +/- 1 step. Offset option with C states enabled is more stable from what I noticed. __________________ Memory tests: G.Skill RipjawsX 2133C9@2500+C7, 16GB G.Skill RipjawsX 1600C9@1866C9 1.5V, Crucial Ballistix Elite 1600@2133, 8GB Corsair GX3 2000C8@2252C9 - P67, Adata 2000-G CL9@2250 7-10-7-25, Adata 2000-G v2.0 CL9@2000 6-9-6-24, Adata 1600-G CL9@1850 9-9-9-24, Kingston 2133 Grey 9-11-9-27, Team Xtreem 2666 C11 Guides: Ivy Bridge Memory Overclocking Guide, GTX470 Bios Mod, How to fix ME in Z77 Reviews: Geil EVO Veloce 2133 C10, Crucial Ballistix 1600 LP Other: Biostar I45@600MHz+ FSB, G.Skill/PSC @1523MHz/AMD, 1539MHz/Intel, P6X58D-E@248bclk
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04-20-11, 01:39 AM	#7
mastrdrver Member Join Date: Oct 2008	124 can also be vvt related. Not sure on SB but from a handful of comments 124 could still be either vcore or vvt. Before you do the below P95 stress go get HyperPi and see if it completes 32M digits without and error or bsod. HyperPi is what I use when I want to know if I even stand a chance when it comes to LinX, IBT, P95, etc. I prefer to not only run Small FFTs but also the reverse equivalent: 1) From the main screen where you can select "Small FFTs", "Blend", etc select "Custom" 2) Set FFTs minimum to 512, maximum to 4096 3) If selected, uncheck "Run FFTs in place" 4) Open up task manager and enter (roughly) the most ram you can in to the field "Memory to use" I set the maximum memory use by adding the current system usage plus 500MB. Vista and 7 will dump cached memory when it starts loading up to the max. __________________ Cooler Master HAF 932 \| Core i7 920 \| Asus P6T6 Revolution \| 6GB Corsair Dominators \| Crossfire XFX 5870 Enermax Revolution 85+ 1050w \| Viewsonic VX2835wm \| Twin 300GB VR (Raid 0) \| W7 Professional x64 3.801Ghz Cores (4C/8T) \| 3.62Ghz unCore \| 1810Mhz 7-8-7-21 Memory \| 900Mhz Core, 1250Mhz GDDR5 1.225 vCore LLC \| 1.375 vQPI/VVT \| 1.24 vIOH \| 1.20 vICH \| 1.66 vDimm \| Differential Amplitude 800mV Passive Noctua NH-D14 \| Zalman VF3000A \| 200mm HAF 500RPM (Q-Fan) \| 140MM Masscool 800RPM (Q-Fan)
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04-20-11, 10:25 AM	#9
theELVISCERATOR Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Michiana	I got this to go away by raising VccIO thanks to someone on the forums...1.17 fixed it. I lowered vcore 2 steps even and still no issues. __________________ Intel 2600k @4.5ghz Megahalem/Corsair SP120 Pull Gskill Sniper 8gb DDR3-2133cas8 @ 1866 MSI P67A-GD65 BIOS 2.4 Galaxy Winforce GTX670 @1215/3404 SLI Xfi Fatality Pro Sound Boot /Adata SX900 256gb SSD Storage/ 2x 640GB WDAAK Raid 0 Antec 1200/Corsair 750 TX PSU / Win7 Pro 64bit Yamakasi 30" IPS 2560x1600
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05-02-11, 09:49 PM	#11
doz Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV	Going to give this a shot. I increased VccIO to 1.15v and it didnt help previously. Will try going a little higher I guess see if it helps. __________________ Asus P8P67 Intel i7-2600k @ 4.9ghz GSkill Ripjaws 8gb 1600mhz c8 EVGA GTX 680 OCZ Agility 2 240gb, Corsair Force 3 180gb, (2)WD 1tb Black HAF 932w/ Corsair HX750 Heat
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05-03-11, 02:40 PM	#12
theELVISCERATOR Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Michiana	my issue came back...idle freezes it was the ram set at 1T at stock voltage!....set it to 2T and that really fixed it. (sigged ram). Gskill said to raise voltage up to 1.65 for ocing!.... no issues for days, so I will now ramp up memory and voltage and see what I can get away with.... __________________ Intel 2600k @4.5ghz Megahalem/Corsair SP120 Pull Gskill Sniper 8gb DDR3-2133cas8 @ 1866 MSI P67A-GD65 BIOS 2.4 Galaxy Winforce GTX670 @1215/3404 SLI Xfi Fatality Pro Sound Boot /Adata SX900 256gb SSD Storage/ 2x 640GB WDAAK Raid 0 Antec 1200/Corsair 750 TX PSU / Win7 Pro 64bit Yamakasi 30" IPS 2560x1600
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05-03-11, 06:32 PM	Thread Starter #13
repilce Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: E600000 - E60000FF	Well interestingly enough, It looks like I am on the right path to making my problem go away too.. currently testing back up to 4.6, but *enabling* c states and speed step have seemed so far to have corrected my "idle" error's. __________________ It's got a cpu, mobo, ram, video card, and PSU... Black belt Ubercloxx0r My Heat
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05-06-11, 05:40 PM	#14
Category 5 Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ft. Lauderdale	Had this on my i7 970 and a couple bumps in vcore seems to have fixed it. Was Prime stable for days and ITBT stable for 20 runs. Revisited ITBT to find that after about 50 or so runs it's fail. vcore up to 1.33 (4GHz) got me through 120 runs of ITBT and other issues have gone away too. __________________ Core i7 970 @ 4.0GHz 1.331v Corsair H50 Push/Pull Asus P6X58D-E 405 Bios 6GB (2x3) Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1600 - 9-9-9-24 XFX 6950 (flashed 6970) 2GB Corsair TX850W
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05-06-11, 06:07 PM	Thread Starter #15
repilce Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: E600000 - E60000FF	Wow that's a super run of IBT.. I was good at 4.6 for some time(6 days) iirc going through the motions.. finally did have a 124, went in and changed vccio from set 1.05 (which fluctuated according to bios from 1.039 to 1.089 ) to AUTO setting. So far I'm working on day# 4 so time will tell. edit:// thinking now that 120 runs of IBT dont sound to bad, prime small fft get's mine hotter.. and i'm not quite satisfied with my loop temps although they are well withing spec.. we'll se what happens __________________ It's got a cpu, mobo, ram, video card, and PSU... Black belt Ubercloxx0r My Heat
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