[Thalan]

Has any one overclocked this CPU and have you had any problems with it? Mine doesn't seem to like being overclocked at all even with the Corsaire H20 Cooler with dual fans on it.

[Seebs]

Plenty of people have overclocked that chip and others from that line as well.
Here's what I suggest you do..

Get CPUz --> http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
Get HWMonitor --> http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

Once you have those two programs installed...

- Run CPUz and HWMontior and take a screenshot of the settings show on them. From CPUz you should get screenshots of the Main, Memory, Motherboard tabs... You can open multiple instances of the program and set each one to a different tab; that way you can have all the information on a single screenshot.

After you have done this and you have the screenshots; come back and post them here..

If people are going to help you; they will need much more information than you're giving them... You need to post what motherboard you're using, what ram, what PSU, what video card, etc...

[Thalan]

Here are a few links to pics of my CPUID screen shots

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...reenshots.jpg/

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The RAM it shows is incorrect. I just put 4 Gigs of pc 8500 1066MHz RAM in.

[trents]

Thalan,

Looks like you might have Cool N Quiet and C1E still enabled. I say that because your Core Voltage in the pics is only 1.264. The first thing I would do would be to disable those two "green" down-throttling bios settings. They tend to create instability when trying to overclock past a certain point. I would also go into Control Panel>Power Settings and make sure you have it set to "Performance" level.

Having said that, do you realize you are running a CPU that is rated at 125 watts TDP when the motherboard you are using is only rated at 95 watts TDP? Your are very fortunate the system will even boot, much less provide a stable overclock. This also could be the reason the Core Voltage is so low. The motherboard might have reduced it in order to function with that 125W TDP processor.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...xconn%20M61PMV

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103471

[Seebs]

+ 1 to what Trents said...

- Disable CnQ, C1E and whatever powersaving features you have on the BIOS.

-- The most important part though is your Motherboard is underpowered and running the cpu just at stock is putting more strain on the MoBo than it was designed to take. You need a board designed for 125W chips.

[trents]

You need this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16813138147R

[theflyingrat]

125W CPU + Bottom-feeder GeForce 6100 motherboard = combination for absolutely no overclock.

The motherboard is the core of how well your system will clock. Your CPU has almost nothing to do with how poorly it's overclocking at this point...

Trents' link above is a good place to start. There are still some half-decent AM2+ motherboards kicking around out there. Just don't expect a $50 budget-board to do the CPU any favors.

ETA : Just noticed my Decennial badge! Neat-o!!!

[Thalan]

So what kind of motherboard would you suggest for this CPU. price really doesn't matter to me as long as it works the way I want it to. Also do you know why the CPUID shows a slower RAM tham what it has? It has PC8500 1066MHz RAM in it and CPUID is showing a PC6200 800MHz

[trents]

Any AM2+ with at least a 125W TDP would work. I've already referenced one for you. 790FX, 790GX, or 790X would be the best bet for a heavy duty board. The FX chipset is the most robust. The 790X is fine too but has no on-board video. Since AM2+ is outgoing technology the choices are not as good as they were 1-2 years ago. But if you look around you should find one. Check the classifieds of this forum and check ebay.

Your ram speed is slower than its rated for because 800 mhz is the auto, default bios setting. If you want to make it go to 1066 you would have to go into bios and manually set the ram speed to 533/1066. I find that a lot of CPUs and a lot of motherboards won't run it that fast in a stable way, however. Better to go with 400/800 and tighten the timings a bit.

[theflyingrat]

Here's another to check out...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130266
The manual claims to have the full Cell Menu, where you can manipulate the multiplier from, so you should be good to go on the overclocking front.

That is, assuming you have a case that an ATX motherboard will fit into...

[QuietIce]

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[Thalan]

Originally Posted by QuietIce

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Could you upload a shot of the Memory and SPD tabs with the new RAM?

That is a shot with the new ram. for some reason it it not registering right. It has 4 gigs of Kingston HyperX 8500 1066MHz but is shows less.

[trents]

CPU-z SPD tab shows 2 gb in slot 1. What does it show in slot 2? It will only show one slot at a time. The Memory tab shows all 4 gb, however. As it should be. If you want to run it at 533 DDR/1066 DDR2 mhz you will have to set that manually in bios. The "Auto" default is 400 DDR/800 DDR2 mhz. 533/1066 is actually the overclocked setting offered by the memory manufacturer. 1066 ram is actually very good 800 ram that when overclocked (at higher than normal voltage or relaxed timing or both) is capable of doing 1066. Unfortunately the CPU itegrated memory controller or the motherboard electronics may not allow you to be stable at 1066.

[QuietIce]

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[Thalan]

Originally Posted by trents

CPU-z SPD tab shows 2 gb in slot 1. What does it show in slot 2? It will only show one slot at a time. The Memory tab shows all 4 gb, however. As it should be. If you want to run it at 533 DDR/1066 DDR2 mhz you will have to set that manually in bios. The "Auto" default is 400 DDR/800 DDR2 mhz. 533/1066 is actually the overclocked setting offered by the memory manufacturer. 1066 ram is actually very good 800 ram that when overclocked (at higher than normal voltage or relaxed timing or both) is capable of doing 1066. Unfortunately the CPU itegrated memory controller or the motherboard electronics may not allow you to be stable at 1066.

Here is a link to the pic of both slots in CPUID.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...amslots12.png/

As you can see they show PC2-6400 (400HMz) when it should be PC2-8500 (800-1066MHz). The PC2-6400 wasn't even the type of ram I had in it. I had PC2-5400 667MHz in it then recently upgraded it to the PC2-8500.

[trents]

PC2-6400 is the same as DDR2 800. Just a different rating scheme, that's all. CPU-z will display your memory speed in terms of Double Data Rate (DDR) bus speed and not the quad pumped DDR2 raw transfer speed. To convert CPU-z memory speed ratings to DDR2 then just mulitiply by 2x. PC2-8500 is the "overclocked" rating of your ram. Your ram started life as PC2-6400 but further testing at the factory showed that with extra voltage or relaxed timings it would run at the equivalent of PC2-8500 so the company advertised it that way. But at heart, it is PC2-6400; at normal voltages and timings that is. That is the way these things work. Similarly, DDR3 1600 is really the overclocked rating of DDR3 1333 that proved it would run at 1600 with extra volts or relaxed timings. QuietIce tried to explained this ealier. Either we are not explaining it adequately or you are not accepting our explanation.

To illustrate the point with my own memory, sold as DDR3 1600, I have attached a pic. Note that to run it at 1600 I have to bump up the volts and relax the timings as compared to slower speeds I might set it to.

[Thalan]

Originally Posted by trents

PC2-6400 is the same as DDR2 800. Just a different rating scheme, that's all. CPU-z will display your memory speed in terms of Double Data Rate (DDR) bus speed and not the quad pumped DDR2 raw transfer speed. To convert CPU-z memory speed ratings to DDR2 then just mulitiply by 2x. PC2-8500 is the "overclocked" rating of your ram. Your ram started life as PC2-6400 but further testing at the factory showed that with extra voltage or relaxed timings it would run at the equivalent of PC2-8500 so the company advertised it that way. But at heart, it is PC2-6400; at normal voltages and timings that is. That is the way these things work. Similarly, DDR3 1600 is really the overclocked rating of DDR3 1333 that proved it would run at 1600 with extra volts or relaxed timings. QuietIce tried to explained this ealier. Either we are not explaining it adequately or you are not accepting our explanation.

To illustrate the point with my own memory, sold as DDR3 1600, I have attached a pic. Note that to run it at 1600 I have to bump up the volts and relax the timings as compared to slower speeds I might set it to.

Ok I got it now. I guess I just wasn't understanding it, but now I do.

[trents]

Its also helpful to keep in mind that the de facto standard for AM2+ CPUs and motherboards is DDR2 800 (PC2-6400). Even though many advertise as being compatible with with ram running at 1066, many people find they will not do so in a reliable, stable way; especially when overclocking the CPU.

By the way, we would like it better if you directly uploaded your pics with your post instead of linking them to Image Shack. To do this, click on the "Go Advanced" button in the new post window. Then scroll down to "Manage Attachments" and click on that. Then an upload manager window will pop up. Click on "Choose File", locate the file to upload and then click on "Upload" and finally, "Save Changes". If the pic is too big to fit nicely in the post, go back and redo, using the paper clip tool in th Advanced new post window. Its up by the white smiley face and the font size/font color tool. The paper clip tool automatically resizes the pics appropriately.

[Thalan]

Got It. I did notice that the BIOS on the motherboard only offer what seems to be just a basic possibility of adjustments for over clocking. The only real change it would allow was to change the voltage by -0.05 or +0.05. I'm guessing that a Intel setup would allow more than what a AMD would or that I'm gonna have to get the motherboard stated previously.

[QuietIce]

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