Help me choose my weapon.. Going 1155

Theocnoob · 05-17-11, 02:38 PM

Asus P8Z68-V Pro or Gigabyte Z68UD4?

The slot layout of the Asus board is more convenient for me. Otherwise the Gigabyte board appears to have more power phasing, plus it has 2x the copper in the ground layer.

Asus board has a (seemingly superior) Lotes socket to the Giga's Foxconn socket

Reviews on both scarce.

Thoughts?

Also considering the P67AUD3P as I know from experience it is solid for cheap.. and I don't NEED any Z68 features but I still want them so I can say I have them...

MattNo5ss · 05-17-11, 02:53 PM

For SB, I would just go with the cheapest board with the features you want/need and from a manufacturer you feel comfortable with. Mainly b/c the board doesn't matter much at all with SB OCing. You have to get lucky with the chip, some hit a wall at 5.3GHz and some at 5.9GHz (absolute max clocks). For 24/7 clocks at least 4.5GHz should be doable.

You are able to use the IGP with the P8Z68-V Pro, but not with the Z68X-UD4. Both of those have 2-way SLI/CFX at x8/x8. The P67A-UD3P has no SLI, but CFX only at x16/x4...

The board with the most features from the ones you've listed is the P8Z68-V Pro. If you'll never use IGP, then I would go with the Z68X-UD4 or Z68X-UD3P to save some money and still have x8/x8 SLI/CFX.

EarthDog · 05-17-11, 02:56 PM

Agree! ^^

Theocnoob · 05-17-11, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattNo5ss

For SB, I would just go with the cheapest board with the features you want/need and from a manufacturer you feel comfortable with. Mainly b/c the board doesn't matter much at all with SB OCing. You have to get lucky with the chip, some hit a wall at 5.3GHz and some at 5.9GHz (absolute max clocks). For 24/7 clocks at least 4.5GHz should be doable.

You are able to use the IGP with the P8Z68-V Pro, but not with the Z68X-UD4. Both of those have 2-way SLI/CFX at x8/x8. The P67A-UD3P has no SLI, but CFX only at x16/x4...

The board with the most features from the ones you've listed is the P8Z68-V Pro. If you'll never use IGP, then I would go with the Z68X-UD4 or Z68X-UD3P to save some money and still have x8/x8 SLI/CFX.

Z68UD4 and the Z68V pro are the same price.
The Giga board does support the igpu. AFAIK it dummies the signal through the PCIE bus and uses the discreet GPU as an out..

I don't need SLI or CF.
So you think I should just go cheap and get a UD3P?

EarthDog · 05-17-11, 03:05 PM

I dont think so... It has to have the ports on the I/O in order to use the iGPU on the CPU.

Theocnoob · 05-17-11, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by EarthDog

I dont think so... It has to have the ports on the I/O in order to use the iGPU on the CPU.

It uses some lucid logix solution....

This is what happens when the g d reviews aren't out a week after the platform releases...

MattNo5ss · 05-17-11, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Theocnoob

Z68UD4 and the Z68V pro are the same price.

On NewEgg, the P8Z68-V Pro is $210 and the Z68X-UD4-B3 is $190. So, there's a little difference. Unless I'm looking at the wrong boards...

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Originally Posted by Theocnoob

The Giga board does support the igpu. AFAIK it dummies the signal through the PCIE bus and uses the discreet GPU as an out..

I haven't heard of that, and I don't see it mentioned on Gigabyte's website. That would be pretty neat though.

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Originally Posted by Theocnoob

I don't need SLI or CF.
So you think I should just go cheap and get a UD3P?

Personally, that's what I would do. I won't ever use SLI/CFX either, but I like to buy boards with SLI/CFX support for better resale value.

There's not a huge difference in price, we're talking like $40 at most here. So, it prolly won't break the bank if you wanted the Asus or UD4.

EarthDog · 05-17-11, 03:14 PM

I have one that I will install tonight for review (Asrock Z68 Extrem4

)....

After researching this more, glad I did, it seems you are right I believe. How that magic works, no clue. Back to reading...

Theocnoob · 05-17-11, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EarthDog

I have one that I will install tonight for review (Asrock Z68 Extrem4

)....

After researching this more, glad I did, it seems you are right I believe. How that magic works, no clue. Back to reading...

I was right? Cool.

_______________

The store I'm looking at has that Asus board and the Giga board at the same price. (The Z boards) so that's not an issue. And ya it's $40. Meh. Basically, I don't want Asus products anymore. They work but they're very poorly made. That's the only reason I'm considering the Giga P board. I also built on it and it was very well behaved.

MattNo5ss · 05-17-11, 03:21 PM

What I thought the boards without video output use the IGP for is for decode/encode tasks, not for display. So, the IGP isn't just idle like on 1156, it can actually be used for something when it's not being used for display.

Theocnoob · 05-17-11, 03:24 PM

That too. But apparently you can make it 'ride' your discreet GPU as a passive output somehow. Or at least it sounded that way.

EarthDog · 05-17-11, 03:25 PM

It seems that it is used in specific tasks, yes.

This LucidLogix link is what Im reading...

SamSaveMax · 05-17-11, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EarthDog

I have one that I will install tonight for review (Asrock Z68 Extrem4

)....

After researching this more, glad I did, it seems you are right I believe. How that magic works, no clue. Back to reading...

You're the man. I've my eyes on this Asrock Z68 Extreme4 as well.
(though I like Gigabyte...but most of their Z68 board requires a discreet GPU so that is out of my picture)
I'll be waiting for your indepth review.
Thanks.

EDIT: I couldn't find anywhere it stated LucidVirtual is supported with those Gigabyte board that required discreet GPU. Any link?

Theocnoob · 05-17-11, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by EarthDog

I have one that I will install tonight for review (Asrock Z68 Extrem4

)....

Hook that board up yet?

EarthDog · 05-17-11, 08:48 PM

Running on it now.

stunt · 05-18-11, 07:30 AM

I got a z68 extreme4 mobo this week and it came without an I/O shield. RMA'd it and now they are out of stock with no ETA on restock. Ended up switching to a MSI z68a-gd80.

That cost me another 40 bucks but I want to get this build done. And the MSI had close to everything I wanted next to the Asrock mobo.

Oh, their also out of the Asus P8Z68-V Pro.

edit on edit: I just checked NE and the do have the Asus P8Z68-V Pro. They showed out of stock yesterday because that would have been my next choice after Asrock. Bummer.

05-17-11, 02:38 PM	Thread Starter #1
Theocnoob Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Near Toronto Canada	Help me choose my weapon.. Going 1155 Asus P8Z68-V Pro or Gigabyte Z68UD4? The slot layout of the Asus board is more convenient for me. Otherwise the Gigabyte board appears to have more power phasing, plus it has 2x the copper in the ground layer. Asus board has a (seemingly superior) Lotes socket to the Giga's Foxconn socket Reviews on both scarce. Thoughts? Also considering the P67AUD3P as I know from experience it is solid for cheap.. and I don't NEED any Z68 features but I still want them so I can say I have them... __________________ 2600K @ 4.8Ghz Maximus IV Extreme GTX 580 HX850
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MattNo5ss b4n4n4 dr4g0n d00m3d m0d3r4t0r Overclockers.com Editor Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: AL	For SB, I would just go with the cheapest board with the features you want/need and from a manufacturer you feel comfortable with. Mainly b/c the board doesn't matter much at all with SB OCing. You have to get lucky with the chip, some hit a wall at 5.3GHz and some at 5.9GHz (absolute max clocks). For 24/7 clocks at least 4.5GHz should be doable. You are able to use the IGP with the P8Z68-V Pro, but not with the Z68X-UD4. Both of those have 2-way SLI/CFX at x8/x8. The P67A-UD3P has no SLI, but CFX only at x16/x4... The board with the most features from the ones you've listed is the P8Z68-V Pro. If you'll never use IGP, then I would go with the Z68X-UD4 or Z68X-UD3P to save some money and still have x8/x8 SLI/CFX. __________________ i7 3770K \| ASUS Maximus V Gene \| 4x2GB Dominator GT DDR3-1600 6-6-6-20 \| EVGA GTX780 SC ACX \| 256GB OCZ Vertex 4 \| SeaSonic X750 E8700/E6750/P4 631 \| Rampage Extreme & EP45T-Extreme & Commando \| DDR2 D9 or any DDR3 \| 1 of 20ish GPUs \| 50GB OCZ Vertex 2 \| SeaSonic SS-1000XP O/C Author Profile \| HWBot Profile \| Heatware (92-0-0) \m/ OverClockers mATX L33T Club \m/ Projects: Copper-Framed, MDF Station \| PVC-Framed, MDF Station \| Custom Cascade Cart/Case \| Untitled TJ07 Build
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EarthDog Senior PITA Member Overclockers.com Editor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Stuck in Maryland...	I have one that I will install tonight for review (Asrock Z68 Extrem4 ).... After researching this more, glad I did, it seems you are right I believe. How that magic works, no clue. Back to reading... __________________ Should I R0 my SSD? / Sandy/Ivybridge Overclocking Guide / Haswell Overclocking Guide / AMD Overclocking Guide / Power Supply Guide SSD Reliability/Write Endurance / JOIN THE BENCHING TEAM! / Bulldozer Overclocking Guide Want to see your writing featured on the overclockers.com Front Page? PM me, I can help! "We have more information and more ways of accessing it than ever, yet seem increasingly less inclined to do so."- Michael Wilbon
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MattNo5ss b4n4n4 dr4g0n d00m3d m0d3r4t0r Overclockers.com Editor Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: AL	What I thought the boards without video output use the IGP for is for decode/encode tasks, not for display. So, the IGP isn't just idle like on 1156, it can actually be used for something when it's not being used for display. __________________ i7 3770K \| ASUS Maximus V Gene \| 4x2GB Dominator GT DDR3-1600 6-6-6-20 \| EVGA GTX780 SC ACX \| 256GB OCZ Vertex 4 \| SeaSonic X750 E8700/E6750/P4 631 \| Rampage Extreme & EP45T-Extreme & Commando \| DDR2 D9 or any DDR3 \| 1 of 20ish GPUs \| 50GB OCZ Vertex 2 \| SeaSonic SS-1000XP O/C Author Profile \| HWBot Profile \| Heatware (92-0-0) \m/ OverClockers mATX L33T Club \m/ Projects: Copper-Framed, MDF Station \| PVC-Framed, MDF Station \| Custom Cascade Cart/Case \| Untitled TJ07 Build
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05-17-11, 03:24 PM	Thread Starter #11
Theocnoob Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Near Toronto Canada	That too. But apparently you can make it 'ride' your discreet GPU as a passive output somehow. Or at least it sounded that way. __________________ 2600K @ 4.8Ghz Maximus IV Extreme GTX 580 HX850
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