Say Hello To Linux 3.0; Linus Just Tagged 3.0-rc1

Evilsizer · 05-30-11, 07:48 PM

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...item&px=OTUwMg

mbentley · 05-31-11, 11:51 AM

yeah, i'd heard about that through the grape vine. sounds like it isn't going to be some big revolutionary change. it will certainly be weird to see a number besides 2.6.x though

Stratus_ss · 05-31-11, 01:42 PM

Ya its going to be just more of the same which is too bad in my estimation, a brand new name to me signals "awsome"

ihrsetrdr · 05-31-11, 11:22 PM

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Yep, hitting the middle-age crazies...that explains it.

Enablingwolf · 06-03-11, 07:50 PM

The biggest deal is the Sandy Bridge stuff. Other than that, mundane progression.

Evilsizer · 06-03-11, 07:58 PM

you know i would have figured more work going into the arm stuff. given how much more ARM tablets are coming out... though on the flip side they may not want to put much effort into seeing as most of the tablets are coming with andriod, but i dont know what andriod is based off of.

Enablingwolf · 06-03-11, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Evilsizer

you know i would have figured more work going into the arm stuff. given how much more ARM tablets are coming out... though on the flip side they may not want to put much effort into seeing as most of the tablets are coming with andriod, but i dont know what andriod is based off of.

ARM is and has been pretty stable in its instruction set advancements over the years. So it would be pretty mundane for any Unix/Unix-like kernel to adapt and include.

Evilsizer · 06-03-11, 08:26 PM

i guess then what im getting at is, will they run into issues with newer multi core arm cpus?

Enablingwolf · 06-03-11, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Evilsizer

i guess then what im getting at is, will they run into issues with newer multi core arm cpus?

It would be harder if they do 64bit ARM. (90% of ARM is still 32bit instruction set.) Multicore is mostly based on the programmer and how many threads are going to be used.

Adding instruction sets to the the kernel is harder than attaching features to the OS.

Simplistically... Not close, but close enough.. Kernel runs hardware. The OS runs software and userland, given the platform by the kernel. Linux is just a kernel.

johan851 · 06-07-11, 10:56 PM

I don't really care if they just want to get past 2.6. It seems like a major release number change warrants a major change. Doing what amounts to a minor release or a point revision and marking it as a major revision is just confusing.

Oh well. Maybe it is the middle age thing.

I.M.O.G. · 06-07-11, 11:29 PM

Boring. Just a number. I like the bikeshed reference though.

Enablingwolf · 06-08-11, 01:15 AM

I am in the camp of, it should be related to date reference numbering.

dropadrop · 06-10-11, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mbentley

yeah, i'd heard about that through the grape vine. sounds like it isn't going to be some big revolutionary change. it will certainly be weird to see a number besides 2.6.x though

I guess the current model of pushing improvements out pretty quickly also in minor number increments would make it difficult to have a significant change at once.

thideras · 06-10-11, 01:25 PM

Aren't they removing a bunch of old modules as well? I thought that was the reason for the large version change.

mbentley · 06-10-11, 01:27 PM

yeah, from what i read, they are removing some extremely old, legacy hardware support which is almost hardly used anymore. it makes sense why they can remove it without much worry seeing as hardware that old wouldn't be running a modern kernel anyway. in a modern kernel, it is just bloat.

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Evilsizer Senior Fourm Spammer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Austin,Texas	you know i would have figured more work going into the arm stuff. given how much more ARM tablets are coming out... though on the flip side they may not want to put much effort into seeing as most of the tablets are coming with andriod, but i dont know what andriod is based off of. __________________ i7 920@3.6ghz \| Asus R2G \| GK F3-12800CL7D-4GBRH \| Galaxy GTX660 GC \| C650TX \| OCZ VERTEX EX 120GB, VERTEX 250GB i3 330m \| Jetway NF98 \| 2x2gig DDR3-1066 \| pico 120WI i5 2450 \| Jetway JNF9G-QM77 \| 2x2gig DDR3-1333 \| WIP "I Love To Camp!" "Commensing Shock Therapy!" I'm jonnyGURU of jonnyGURU.com and we don't overload PSU's - JonnyGURU HeatWare
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