Speculative question: Ivy Bridge vs. sandy bridge-e

mas5acre · 09-21-11, 10:46 PM

I know they are not out yet, but with sandy bridge-e not being out for very long until ivy bridge popping out....Is it worth it? I mean why release an updated architecture chip so soon before a new architecture chip. Current roadmap data puts Sandy bridge-e to soon with ivy bridge as early as march or april 2012. Currently running specs in sig, but wanted more cores and was thinking about sandy bridge-e.

Maybe they just know something we don't and the world will end in 2012.

I.M.O.G. · 09-21-11, 11:00 PM

My initial reaction - no clue. There is nothing but talk on Ivy Bridge and 20% improvement claims over SB based on no evidence.

But really, that doesn't much matter. Ivy bridge will drop into the same board as whatever SB-E you might run, so if you are feeling itchy just get an SB-E when you can and if you want to go the Ivy Bridge route once they drop, you won't lose much by selling the SB-E to upgrade to Ivy Bridge. If when Ivy Bridge drops it doesn't look that enticing or you are happy with the SB-E already - you've answered your own question.

But really, since they fit in the same board, there is no reason to wait. You can just upgrade and resell when the time comes only taking a modest hit. I think SB-E is supposed to release around $600+, so taking a hit for $50 or so by reselling doesn't seem too big of a deal.

I should mention though, Ivy Bridge does give you 3D transistor bling...

Archer0915 · 09-21-11, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by I.M.O.G.

My initial reaction - no clue. There is nothing but talk on Ivy Bridge and 20% improvement claims over SB based on no evidence.

But really, that doesn't much matter. Ivy bridge will drop into the same board as whatever SB-E you might run, so if you are feeling itchy just get an SB-E when you can and if you want to go the Ivy Bridge route once they drop, you won't lose much by selling the SB-E to upgrade to Ivy Bridge. If when Ivy Bridge drops it doesn't look that enticing or you are happy with the SB-E already - you've answered your own question.

But really, since they fit in the same board, there is no reason to wait. You can just upgrade and resell when the time comes only taking a modest hit. I think SB-E is supposed to release around $600+, so taking a hit for $50 or so by reselling doesn't seem too big of a deal.

UHHH? My last read 1155 was IB and SB-E was 2011. IB is supposed to work with many current SB boards.

I.M.O.G. · 09-21-11, 11:08 PM

Crap, gotcha. Now I get it... I was forgetting SB-E is a bastardized different socket. Good catch.

No clue why they go backwards compatible with IvyBridge to SB but SB-E is on its own. Dumb.

MattNo5ss · 09-21-11, 11:15 PM

Yeah, you said Ivy Bridge (LGA1155) will drop in SB-E (LGA2011) boards. You should have been saying SB, not SB-E.

I.M.O.G. · 09-21-11, 11:15 PM

You were right on Archer and I was screwing up. So to clarify:

SB: 1155
SB-E: 2011
Ivybridge: 1155 (but you'll need a new board with updated chipset to get all the benefits)

I updated my last reply before I saw your last post, after figuring out what you were talking about, I realized my error. Thanks.

Archer0915 · 09-21-11, 11:20 PM

Well I pulled that post to prevent confusion. Man I thought there was some kind of change or something. Well let me go wipe myself after the pants crap you made me do.

As far as the socket change I believe the memory controller is the main issue and I think SB-E will be quad channel mem.

PolRoger · 09-22-11, 09:07 AM

Doesn't Intel's roadmap show SB-E getting its own 22nm die shrink further down the road after mainstream IB is already out?

Bobnova · 09-25-11, 11:13 AM

I thought SB-E was 22nm.

Archer0915 · 09-25-11, 11:18 AM

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I thought SB-E was 22nm.

SB-E is up and then 22 IB then 22 SB-E. It is a smart process Intel is undertaking here. Using the 32 process which is pr oven for their next high end cpu while getting the bugs out on the less complicated IB for the consumer. When the IB gets out there the 22 SB-E will probably be under final development.

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I.M.O.G. Glorious Leader Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Rootstown, OH	My initial reaction - no clue. There is nothing but talk on Ivy Bridge and 20% improvement claims over SB based on no evidence. But really, that doesn't much matter. Ivy bridge will drop into the same board as whatever SB-E you might run, so if you are feeling itchy just get an SB-E when you can and if you want to go the Ivy Bridge route once they drop, you won't lose much by selling the SB-E to upgrade to Ivy Bridge. If when Ivy Bridge drops it doesn't look that enticing or you are happy with the SB-E already - you've answered your own question. But really, since they fit in the same board, there is no reason to wait. You can just upgrade and resell when the time comes only taking a modest hit. I think SB-E is supposed to release around $600+, so taking a hit for $50 or so by reselling doesn't seem too big of a deal. I should mention though, Ivy Bridge does give you 3D transistor bling... __________________ The OC Forums Way We are a team. We are a community. We are a fellowship made strong by mutual respect and shared dedication to the task of enriching all who come here. The OC Forums Thank You Thread Put your computer to work for our OC Forum Teams! Try out our POST TEMPLATES, they save you time answering common questions! I spend half my money on CPUs, GPUs, and Liquid Nitrogen. The other half I waste. Last edited by I.M.O.G.; 09-21-11 at 11:06 PM.
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I.M.O.G. Glorious Leader Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Rootstown, OH	Crap, gotcha. Now I get it... I was forgetting SB-E is a bastardized different socket. Good catch. No clue why they go backwards compatible with IvyBridge to SB but SB-E is on its own. Dumb. __________________ The OC Forums Way We are a team. We are a community. We are a fellowship made strong by mutual respect and shared dedication to the task of enriching all who come here. The OC Forums Thank You Thread Put your computer to work for our OC Forum Teams! Try out our POST TEMPLATES, they save you time answering common questions! I spend half my money on CPUs, GPUs, and Liquid Nitrogen. The other half I waste. Last edited by I.M.O.G.; 09-21-11 at 11:14 PM.
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