Help with HD3650 AGP PSU

zxzxzx · 10-12-11, 01:14 AM

Hi to all,

As you can see the rig in my signature, it is very old but I am considering upgrading it with a HD3650 from Amaze or Powercolour (probably Amaze) but I was unsure if my PSU could run it. According to gpureview it takes less than 75w and on other forums around 5A. My PSU is 175w and has 3A on the 12v rail.

King107s · 10-12-11, 11:48 AM

WOW

OK, please do not spend any money on this system man!

For very very little money you could replace this entire setup with something that would kill it in every way!

This system is like a blast from the past... I mean this stuff has got to be nearly 10 years old at this point...

I could give you advice on it but for every penny spent on this thing you could be saving towards something to replace it...

grumperfish · 10-12-11, 12:57 PM

As said, do not spend the money on that card. You would need to buy a new powersupply (at a premium given that you have an SFF case), and you would pay a premium for an AGP card. I had a 3850AGP card at one point with a faster CPU (on my brother's PC before we replaced it) and the 3850 made zero difference as it was completely CPU-limited. Drivers were also a nightmare given how out-of-date they are for that card model.

Save up the money for a completely new system and do not waste it on piecemeal upgrades to the one you have currently. It will cost far, far less in the medium-term, and a modern low-mid end system will be considerably faster. Besides, given the age of your current system, it's only a matter of time until the board goes, or some other component, so you'd be replacing more old parts at a premium. Just buy new.

King107s · 10-12-11, 01:19 PM

Ya, thats what I thinking too, I'd be suprised if some of the capacitors haven't started to leak already...

zxzxzx · 10-13-11, 01:52 AM

Thanks for the recommendations with this and yes I know how old my system is. I was considering a new motherboard and all the other parts but this upgrade is kinda free from a friend of mine, I was just unsure of whether I could make use of it. I followed the links on the 'Dual PSU How-Tos' thread and hooked up a 300w PSU with 12A on the 12v rail. Since the 3650 uses an extra power connector, would it be ok if 36w came from the 175w PSU & the rest from the 300w. The reason that I do not use the 300w PSU as my primary is because my motherboard is from an OEM which only accepts a 14-pin PSU.

Oh & I also found a 3.06ghz P4 on ebay for about $10 with shipping so I might buy that.

zxzxzx · 10-16-11, 01:49 AM

Thanks for all the help you've given me guys, but i will now no longer need a 3650 because I got a new PCI-E motherboard

grumperfish · 10-16-11, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by zxzxzx

Thanks for all the help you've given me guys, but i will now no longer need a 3650 because I got a new PCI-E motherboard

Not a bad move really. Which board & CPU did you get?

zxzxzx · 10-16-11, 09:40 AM

The new rig is in my sig. The motherboard & CPU & HDDs & RAM were free and everything else I paid for or already had.

King107s · 10-17-11, 12:23 PM

I would lose that voodoo card if i were you. I doubt its doing you any good...

zxzxzx · 10-17-11, 05:51 PM

The voodoo2 reminds me of the good times. It only takes a few watts of power and doesn't really affect my performance.

10-12-11, 01:14 AM	Thread Starter #1
zxzxzx Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Australia	Help with HD3650 AGP PSU Hi to all, As you can see the rig in my signature, it is very old but I am considering upgrading it with a HD3650 from Amaze or Powercolour (probably Amaze) but I was unsure if my PSU could run it. According to gpureview it takes less than 75w and on other forums around 5A. My PSU is 175w and has 3A on the 12v rail. __________________ AMD Phenom II X6 1065T \| Asus M3A32-MVP \| CrossfireX 3x HD 4800 series \| 4Gb DDR2 800 Intel Pentium G620 @ stock \| Gigabyte GA-H61M DS2 \|1Gb DDR3 1333\| Intel HD Graphics 2000 Intel Pentium 4 541 @ 3.8GHz \| MSI 7036 \| 1Gb DDR 400 \| GeForce 7200GS Lenovo Thinkpad Edge11 \| Intel Celeron U3400 \| 2Gb DDR3 1333 \| Intel HD Graphics
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10-12-11, 11:48 AM	#2
King107s Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Florida	WOW OK, please do not spend any money on this system man! For very very little money you could replace this entire setup with something that would kill it in every way! This system is like a blast from the past... I mean this stuff has got to be nearly 10 years old at this point... I could give you advice on it but for every penny spent on this thing you could be saving towards something to replace it... __________________ CPU Intel Core i7-2600K @ 4.9 GHz on H2O MB ASRock Z77 Extreme9 RAM G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 2133 9-11-10-28 VC Sapphire Dual-X OC 7970 3GB 1050/1500 (3DMark11 P10551) SSD 120GB OCZ Vertex 3 SATAIII HDD RAID0 2x1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 PSU Corsair AX1200 Case Corsair Obsidian 800D w/ Aerocool Shark Black ed. fans Cooling EK Supreme HF Rev 2 block, BIX GTX360 Rad, AFC1212D-PWM Fans, Primochill Myraid Res, Swiftech MCP655-B, Prolimatech PK-1 TIM, PrimoChill Liquid Utopia, PrimoFlex PRO LRT Tubing 1/2" ID 3/4" UV Blue
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10-12-11, 12:57 PM	#3
grumperfish Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: South Florida	As said, do not spend the money on that card. You would need to buy a new powersupply (at a premium given that you have an SFF case), and you would pay a premium for an AGP card. I had a 3850AGP card at one point with a faster CPU (on my brother's PC before we replaced it) and the 3850 made zero difference as it was completely CPU-limited. Drivers were also a nightmare given how out-of-date they are for that card model. Save up the money for a completely new system and do not waste it on piecemeal upgrades to the one you have currently. It will cost far, far less in the medium-term, and a modern low-mid end system will be considerably faster. Besides, given the age of your current system, it's only a matter of time until the board goes, or some other component, so you'd be replacing more old parts at a premium. Just buy new. __________________ Desktop: i7 2600K @ 4.6ghz w/ TR HR-02 + SD 120x38mm // Gigabyte Z68XP-UD3P // XFX 6950 2GB 16GB G-Skill RipjawsX 1600mhz // Samsung 830 128GB // 6TB // Thermaltake Armor // Corsair TX750 Server: Q6600 G0 // Gigabyte EP35-DS3R // 4GB G-Skill DDR2 // 4850 512MB // 4.25TB // Corsair TX650 Laptop: Latitude D630 // C2M T7300 // 4GB DDR2 // X3100 // 160GB Smoothwall: P4 2.4C // 1GB DDR // AOpen MX4GVR // 80GB // Corsair CX430 I like HEAT
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10-12-11, 01:19 PM	#4
King107s Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Florida	Ya, thats what I thinking too, I'd be suprised if some of the capacitors haven't started to leak already... __________________ CPU Intel Core i7-2600K @ 4.9 GHz on H2O MB ASRock Z77 Extreme9 RAM G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 2133 9-11-10-28 VC Sapphire Dual-X OC 7970 3GB 1050/1500 (3DMark11 P10551) SSD 120GB OCZ Vertex 3 SATAIII HDD RAID0 2x1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 PSU Corsair AX1200 Case Corsair Obsidian 800D w/ Aerocool Shark Black ed. fans Cooling EK Supreme HF Rev 2 block, BIX GTX360 Rad, AFC1212D-PWM Fans, Primochill Myraid Res, Swiftech MCP655-B, Prolimatech PK-1 TIM, PrimoChill Liquid Utopia, PrimoFlex PRO LRT Tubing 1/2" ID 3/4" UV Blue
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10-13-11, 01:52 AM	Thread Starter #5
zxzxzx Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Australia	Thanks for the recommendations with this and yes I know how old my system is. I was considering a new motherboard and all the other parts but this upgrade is kinda free from a friend of mine, I was just unsure of whether I could make use of it. I followed the links on the 'Dual PSU How-Tos' thread and hooked up a 300w PSU with 12A on the 12v rail. Since the 3650 uses an extra power connector, would it be ok if 36w came from the 175w PSU & the rest from the 300w. The reason that I do not use the 300w PSU as my primary is because my motherboard is from an OEM which only accepts a 14-pin PSU. Oh & I also found a 3.06ghz P4 on ebay for about $10 with shipping so I might buy that. __________________ AMD Phenom II X6 1065T \| Asus M3A32-MVP \| CrossfireX 3x HD 4800 series \| 4Gb DDR2 800 Intel Pentium G620 @ stock \| Gigabyte GA-H61M DS2 \|1Gb DDR3 1333\| Intel HD Graphics 2000 Intel Pentium 4 541 @ 3.8GHz \| MSI 7036 \| 1Gb DDR 400 \| GeForce 7200GS Lenovo Thinkpad Edge11 \| Intel Celeron U3400 \| 2Gb DDR3 1333 \| Intel HD Graphics Last edited by zxzxzx; 10-13-11 at 01:57 AM.
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10-16-11, 01:49 AM	Thread Starter #6
zxzxzx Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Australia	Thanks for all the help you've given me guys, but i will now no longer need a 3650 because I got a new PCI-E motherboard __________________ AMD Phenom II X6 1065T \| Asus M3A32-MVP \| CrossfireX 3x HD 4800 series \| 4Gb DDR2 800 Intel Pentium G620 @ stock \| Gigabyte GA-H61M DS2 \|1Gb DDR3 1333\| Intel HD Graphics 2000 Intel Pentium 4 541 @ 3.8GHz \| MSI 7036 \| 1Gb DDR 400 \| GeForce 7200GS Lenovo Thinkpad Edge11 \| Intel Celeron U3400 \| 2Gb DDR3 1333 \| Intel HD Graphics
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10-16-11, 09:40 AM	Thread Starter #8
zxzxzx Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Australia	The new rig is in my sig. The motherboard & CPU & HDDs & RAM were free and everything else I paid for or already had. __________________ AMD Phenom II X6 1065T \| Asus M3A32-MVP \| CrossfireX 3x HD 4800 series \| 4Gb DDR2 800 Intel Pentium G620 @ stock \| Gigabyte GA-H61M DS2 \|1Gb DDR3 1333\| Intel HD Graphics 2000 Intel Pentium 4 541 @ 3.8GHz \| MSI 7036 \| 1Gb DDR 400 \| GeForce 7200GS Lenovo Thinkpad Edge11 \| Intel Celeron U3400 \| 2Gb DDR3 1333 \| Intel HD Graphics
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10-17-11, 12:23 PM	#9
King107s Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Florida	I would lose that voodoo card if i were you. I doubt its doing you any good... __________________ CPU Intel Core i7-2600K @ 4.9 GHz on H2O MB ASRock Z77 Extreme9 RAM G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 2133 9-11-10-28 VC Sapphire Dual-X OC 7970 3GB 1050/1500 (3DMark11 P10551) SSD 120GB OCZ Vertex 3 SATAIII HDD RAID0 2x1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 PSU Corsair AX1200 Case Corsair Obsidian 800D w/ Aerocool Shark Black ed. fans Cooling EK Supreme HF Rev 2 block, BIX GTX360 Rad, AFC1212D-PWM Fans, Primochill Myraid Res, Swiftech MCP655-B, Prolimatech PK-1 TIM, PrimoChill Liquid Utopia, PrimoFlex PRO LRT Tubing 1/2" ID 3/4" UV Blue
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10-17-11, 05:51 PM	Thread Starter #10
zxzxzx Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Australia	The voodoo2 reminds me of the good times. It only takes a few watts of power and doesn't really affect my performance. __________________ AMD Phenom II X6 1065T \| Asus M3A32-MVP \| CrossfireX 3x HD 4800 series \| 4Gb DDR2 800 Intel Pentium G620 @ stock \| Gigabyte GA-H61M DS2 \|1Gb DDR3 1333\| Intel HD Graphics 2000 Intel Pentium 4 541 @ 3.8GHz \| MSI 7036 \| 1Gb DDR 400 \| GeForce 7200GS Lenovo Thinkpad Edge11 \| Intel Celeron U3400 \| 2Gb DDR3 1333 \| Intel HD Graphics
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