Steam wth?

Theocnoob · 10-13-11, 04:20 PM

I buy Deus Ex this morning(physical copy) Install it. Come back like 3 hours later to play, and the steam box pops up and says its loading. Then says this game is currently unavailable. WHat the hell is that supposed to mean?

Efonzerellie · 10-13-11, 04:30 PM

same thing just happened to me with TF2

Janus67 · 10-13-11, 05:16 PM

"Steam servers are too busy to handle your request. Please try again in a few minutes."

when trying to open any game. If only it was Origin, we wouldn't have these issues!

Theocnoob · 10-14-11, 10:09 AM

I own the game, I will play it when I damn well please, period. I hope someone from Steam is reading.

Tokae · 10-14-11, 03:22 PM

Rage did that with me!

I bought my copy from Bestbuy.. I install it, BAM its in my Steam?!?!?

Shell · 10-14-11, 04:26 PM

As you know steam is DRM that has to call home for the game to work, only way around is to go into offline mode when it is working.

madhatter256 · 10-14-11, 04:47 PM

Where the installation of the store-bought games independent of steam? Meaning they just placed a shortcut, installed in their own non-steam folder in program files, etc.? Or did it ask you to install steam during installation of the game?

From what I'm reading here sounds like Steam 'detected' your install and made it part of it without your permission...

Theocnoob · 10-14-11, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by madhatter256

Where the installation of the store-bought games independent of steam? Meaning they just placed a shortcut, installed in their own non-steam folder in program files, etc.? Or did it ask you to install steam during installation of the game?

From what I'm reading here sounds like Steam 'detected' your install and made it part of it without your permission...

That's what it does my friend. If you have Steam installed, which I do, and you buy games from Steam, which I do, when you buy a boxed RETAIL game that happens to be available on Steam it just eats it. Even the installer is the 'steam installer' with the little percentage bar that scrolls across but doesn't tell you what/where is installing. And it installs itself to the /steam folder.

As with all things, once you let them become big enough, they become inherently evil... I mean, unless their motto is not to be evil. Right?

doz · 10-15-11, 12:10 PM

http://deusex.com/game/reqs

It says right there on the requirements that it uses the Steam platform...... That should tell you that Steam is REQUIRED, retail or not...... You purchased the game like that (Im sure if you look at the box, itll say the same thing).

SolidxSnake · 10-15-11, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Theocnoob

That's what it does my friend. If you have Steam installed, which I do, and you buy games from Steam, which I do, when you buy a boxed RETAIL game that happens to be available on Steam it just eats it. Even the installer is the 'steam installer' with the little percentage bar that scrolls across but doesn't tell you what/where is installing. And it installs itself to the /steam folder.

As with all things, once you let them become big enough, they become inherently evil... I mean, unless their motto is not to be evil. Right?

Retail games that are steam only (Deus Ex) are done through steam. BC2, for instance, is a game that was offered retail and through Steam, and doesn't play through steam if you have the retail version. I know this because I have the retail version and my friends have the Steam version, and I am greatly envious of them.

So to counter your point, Steam does not "eat up" games that happen to be available on steam unless that game is specifically required to use Steam.

As far as the game being unavailable (happened to me yesterday morning with Metro 2033, well.. Steam wouldn't even open), if you're already on and the game is unavailable, I'd just restart into offline mode, problem solved. If it's an online game that you want to play and Steam is down, well, I guess that's something you have to deal with. Not anything new for servers to occasionally have issues, right?

Theocnoob · 10-15-11, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SolidxSnake

Retail games that are steam only (Deus Ex) are done through steam. BC2, for instance, is a game that was offered retail and through Steam, and doesn't play through steam if you have the retail version. I know this because I have the retail version and my friends have the Steam version, and I am greatly envious of them.

So to counter your point, Steam does not "eat up" games that happen to be available on steam unless that game is specifically required to use Steam.

Many of the games I have purchased retail have had a STEAM installer and plopped themselves into my STEAM directory. Metro 2033 is another example.

Supertrucker · 10-15-11, 07:47 PM

Many games, including games not released by valve, are steam only games, that 100% require steam to play, whether you had steam installed before you bought them or not. Like fallout, new vegas. It is a steam only title, even if you bought an in store copy of the game, you have to install steam and launch it through steam, as steam is the publishers chosen method of drm.

Ive never once had a retail game that was not a steam required game force me to install through steam with a retail copy of the game.

SolidxSnake · 10-15-11, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Theocnoob

Many of the games I have purchased retail have had a STEAM installer and plopped themselves into my STEAM directory. Metro 2033 is another example.

You missed my entire post. There are plenty of retail games that are steam only (Deus Ex, and Metro, whatever other games you know of), but there are other ones that are both (BFBC2) and Steam doesn't automatically take over the retail install of the game.

The game will say "requires Steam" on the box if so.

Theocnoob · 10-15-11, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SolidxSnake

You missed my entire post.

How could I have missed the post if I replied to it?

I misunderstood it but I didn't miss it

Aynjell · 10-17-11, 02:25 PM

Wait, am I the only person who sees steamplay on a box and is excited?

Theocnoob · 10-17-11, 02:27 PM

With a 20-120GB HD on most people's Xbox I doubt that will be successful.

Aynjell · 10-17-11, 02:51 PM

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With a 20-120GB HD on most people's Xbox I doubt that will be successful.

I think you misread my post. I said A BOX, not Xbox.

SolidxSnake · 10-17-11, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Theocnoob

With a 20-120GB HD on most people's Xbox I doubt that will be successful.

Now I'm beginning to think you're trolling

10-13-11, 04:20 PM	Thread Starter #1
Theocnoob Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Near Toronto Canada	Steam wth? I buy Deus Ex this morning(physical copy) Install it. Come back like 3 hours later to play, and the steam box pops up and says its loading. Then says this game is currently unavailable. WHat the hell is that supposed to mean? __________________ I've forgotten more than I've learned.
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10-14-11, 10:09 AM	Thread Starter #4
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madhatter256 Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: CFL	Where the installation of the store-bought games independent of steam? Meaning they just placed a shortcut, installed in their own non-steam folder in program files, etc.? Or did it ask you to install steam during installation of the game? From what I'm reading here sounds like Steam 'detected' your install and made it part of it without your permission... __________________ Heatware
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doz Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV	http://deusex.com/game/reqs It says right there on the requirements that it uses the Steam platform...... That should tell you that Steam is REQUIRED, retail or not...... You purchased the game like that (Im sure if you look at the box, itll say the same thing). __________________ Asus P8P67 Intel i7-2600k @ 4.9ghz GSkill Ripjaws 8gb 1600mhz c8 EVGA GTX 680 OCZ Agility 2 240gb, Corsair Force 3 180gb, (2)WD 1tb Black HAF 932w/ Corsair HX750 Heat
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Supertrucker Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Southern California	Many games, including games not released by valve, are steam only games, that 100% require steam to play, whether you had steam installed before you bought them or not. Like fallout, new vegas. It is a steam only title, even if you bought an in store copy of the game, you have to install steam and launch it through steam, as steam is the publishers chosen method of drm. Ive never once had a retail game that was not a steam required game force me to install through steam with a retail copy of the game. __________________ 2700k@4.7 1.350v P8P67 EVO 2x8gb geil 2133 X-fire 7950s @1175/1600 Yamasaki Catleap 2560x1440 IPS
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Theocnoob Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Near Toronto Canada	With a 20-120GB HD on most people's Xbox I doubt that will be successful. __________________ I've forgotten more than I've learned.
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