6970? or gtx 570? (leaning towards the 6970.)

Methal · 01-15-12, 09:16 PM

getting ready to replace my desktop. Been running it for a good 3 years now with a gtx 285. It plays skyrim on medium well enough, however its making a quiet yet highly irritating sqeeling sound now. Not to mention about once an hour the driver (285.62) crashes to desktop and wintendo 7 gives me an error about the driver.

Main question is, toms has the gtx 570 at about 5 fps faster than the 6970. And i've read that the AMD cards have issues with a lot of games and need some patching to run correctly.

anyone here experiencing any of the above and wouldn't mind educating me some on both cards?

Thanks in advance.

E-Ninja · 01-15-12, 10:03 PM

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BossBorot · 01-15-12, 10:10 PM

I would go with a used 6950 that unlocks. They have been going for 200-230 recently.

If you are buying new I would go for an Asus 570 DCUII as they are ridiculously quiet.

galador · 01-15-12, 11:48 PM

It is a preference thing.
I personally prefer the 6970 and their drivers but they both basically produce about the same bench scores.

In all honesty I doubt you can go wrong with either ( NVidia GTX570 or AMD 6970) unless you a fanboy of one of them.

Edit:
Methal, there is already several post concerning this question in this forum. Check them out and see what you think.
Just scroll down and see "similar posts"

appelsos · 01-16-12, 07:28 PM

i'd take the 6970, just for the extra vram i think.

Methal · 01-17-12, 10:35 AM

is there any down side to running an AMD Graphics card with an Intel set up?

Should I swap out the CPU for a an FX series? would I get better performance with an all amd set up?

a c i d.f l y · 01-17-12, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Methal

is there any down side to running an AMD Graphics card with an Intel set up?

Should I swap out the CPU for a an FX series? would I get better performance with an all amd set up?

To answer your questions: No, no, and no.

vdgamer · 01-17-12, 12:05 PM

i had 570 its a great card, just dont get reference one, there known for weaker VRM, like BossBorot said Asus DCII is a good one or MSI Twin Frozr III, oc'd to 900 on core there matching stock 580's

Finny · 01-18-12, 08:14 PM

I would suggest the 6970. Or an unlockable 6950.

The big difference that actually matters is the VRAM. 1.25GB vs 2GB is big. I had a GTX470 with 1.25GB VRAM that got bottlenecked in Crysis 2 and almost in Crysis 1. It also got full in Battlefield 3. My GTX480 also fills up in BF3 (1.5GB). So even now the difference matters, and it will down the road.

BossBorot · 01-18-12, 09:36 PM

However something to be aware of going forward is the relatively poor tessellation performance of the 6000 series vs the 7000 series and nVidia's cards.

On one hand you get more vram vs nVidia's current gen but on the other hand it's tessellation performance is in many ways as big of a possible performance issue down the road with games that push the bleeding edge.

Personally I wouldn't worry about architecture and design differences between ATi and nVidia unless you are shooting for more then 1920x1200 and in that case you should buy something with more performance anyways.

felixthemaster · 05-20-12, 04:24 AM

7850 because cheaper than 6970 and more efficient and cooler and less power hungry and easily overclcoked and can beat the 6970's ass overclocked

felixthemaster · 05-20-12, 04:27 AM

also one generation up so longer drivers, etc support and more future proof

azuza001 · 05-20-12, 12:13 PM

As far as drivers go the only issue I've ever heard of from ATI is when it comes to their crossfire updates, sometimes they take longer than they should lol.

6970 vs 570 I'd personally go 6970. If you throw the 7850 into the mix though I'd say go there. Overclocked they are monsters. Not overclocking the 6970 typically wins.

felixthemaster · 05-20-12, 12:25 PM

i just rmeembered this isnt my thread, wrong post

\dev\goat · 05-20-12, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by vdgamer

i had 570 its a great card, just dont get reference one, there known for weaker VRM, like BossBorot said Asus DCII is a good one or MSI Twin Frozr III, oc'd to 900 on core there matching stock 580's

+1 to this, don't get a reference 570, go with one of the nicer ones. The VRMs on my reference 570 caught on fire.

They are amazing cards though

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Methal Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: DC	6970? or gtx 570? (leaning towards the 6970.) getting ready to replace my desktop. Been running it for a good 3 years now with a gtx 285. It plays skyrim on medium well enough, however its making a quiet yet highly irritating sqeeling sound now. Not to mention about once an hour the driver (285.62) crashes to desktop and wintendo 7 gives me an error about the driver. Main question is, toms has the gtx 570 at about 5 fps faster than the 6970. And i've read that the AMD cards have issues with a lot of games and need some patching to run correctly. anyone here experiencing any of the above and wouldn't mind educating me some on both cards? Thanks in advance. __________________ That'll do Donkey, that'll do. I'm a Team 32 Folding Mentor. Ask me about Folding.
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BossBorot Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SCU Santa Clara CA	I would go with a used 6950 that unlocks. They have been going for 200-230 recently. If you are buying new I would go for an Asus 570 DCUII as they are ridiculously quiet. __________________ Heatware
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01-15-12, 11:48 PM	#4
galador Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Texas	It is a preference thing. I personally prefer the 6970 and their drivers but they both basically produce about the same bench scores. In all honesty I doubt you can go wrong with either ( NVidia GTX570 or AMD 6970) unless you a fanboy of one of them. Edit: Methal, there is already several post concerning this question in this forum. Check them out and see what you think. Just scroll down and see "similar posts" __________________ Dell e1705 --> 2.0ghz T7200, 256mb Vidia Go 7900gs, 2Gb GSkill DDR 2 PC 5300, Win XP Media Edition Asus P5E --> Q6600 G0 VID 1.2875 @ 3.6ghz ( 1.40V), ASUS EAH6970 2GB, G.SKILL 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 , Western DigitalCaviar SE 320 GB, Swiftech H2O Ultra, Corsair HX 620W, Soundblaster Audigy 2, Win XP Home Last edited by galador; 01-15-12 at 11:55 PM.
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Methal Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: DC	is there any down side to running an AMD Graphics card with an Intel set up? Should I swap out the CPU for a an FX series? would I get better performance with an all amd set up? __________________ That'll do Donkey, that'll do. I'm a Team 32 Folding Mentor. Ask me about Folding.
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01-17-12, 12:05 PM	#8
vdgamer Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: US	i had 570 its a great card, just dont get reference one, there known for weaker VRM, like BossBorot said Asus DCII is a good one or MSI Twin Frozr III, oc'd to 900 on core there matching stock 580's __________________ Mobo: ASRock Fatal1ty X79 Professional CPU: Intel SB-E i7 3820 C2 @ 4.75 Ghz 1.36v Corsair H80 Ram: 4x4GB GSkill Ripjaws X @ 2000 9-10-9-28 1.57v GPU: 2x MSI GTX580 Lightnings SLI @ 970/2200 1.09v HDD: Corsair Force GT 120, 2x F4 320GB Raid 0,F4 2TB, WD-G 1TB PSU: Corsair HX850 80 PLUS SILVER Case: Antec 1200 EVGA Mod
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Finny Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: North Dakota	I would suggest the 6970. Or an unlockable 6950. The big difference that actually matters is the VRAM. 1.25GB vs 2GB is big. I had a GTX470 with 1.25GB VRAM that got bottlenecked in Crysis 2 and almost in Crysis 1. It also got full in Battlefield 3. My GTX480 also fills up in BF3 (1.5GB). So even now the difference matters, and it will down the road. __________________ 92% of teens have moved on to rap. If you are part of the 8% who still listen to real music, copy and paste this. CPU......................i7 920 @ 4.16 with 1.46v GPU......................GTX260 core 216 at 700-1180 RAM.....................6GB micron (cellshock) Sound...................Auzentech X-Plosion w/LVM4562OPAMPS MOBO...................Biostar T-power x58 Case....................INCOMING! PSU......................Antec 850 HEAT
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BossBorot Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SCU Santa Clara CA	However something to be aware of going forward is the relatively poor tessellation performance of the 6000 series vs the 7000 series and nVidia's cards. On one hand you get more vram vs nVidia's current gen but on the other hand it's tessellation performance is in many ways as big of a possible performance issue down the road with games that push the bleeding edge. Personally I wouldn't worry about architecture and design differences between ATi and nVidia unless you are shooting for more then 1920x1200 and in that case you should buy something with more performance anyways. __________________ Heatware
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05-20-12, 04:24 AM	#11
felixthemaster Member Join Date: May 2012	7850 because cheaper than 6970 and more efficient and cooler and less power hungry and easily overclcoked and can beat the 6970's ass overclocked
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05-20-12, 04:27 AM	#12
felixthemaster Member Join Date: May 2012	also one generation up so longer drivers, etc support and more future proof
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05-20-12, 12:13 PM	#13
azuza001 Member Join Date: Nov 2007	As far as drivers go the only issue I've ever heard of from ATI is when it comes to their crossfire updates, sometimes they take longer than they should lol. 6970 vs 570 I'd personally go 6970. If you throw the 7850 into the mix though I'd say go there. Overclocked they are monsters. Not overclocking the 6970 typically wins. __________________ Clevo 901C Laptop / Intel Core 2 Extreme at 2.93Ghz / 4 Gigs Ram / Geforce 8800GTX / 2 X 250 Gig HD's in Raid 0 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rocketfish Full Aluminum Tower / I7 870 at 4Ghz / 8 Gigs DDR3 Ram / EVGA GTX 670 FTW 2GB / 1 TB HD / True Spirit 140 I blame Earthdog and Muddocktor for helping me pick some truly great parts. Thanks guys, now I'm broke and happy. :)
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felixthemaster Member Join Date: May 2012	i just rmeembered this isnt my thread, wrong post Last edited by felixthemaster; 05-20-12 at 12:47 PM.
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