Help Choosing another XP

Larry Quinn · Apr 6, 2002

My good old XP1900+ has now developed an attitude!!!

I'ts dropped it's max Overclock by 50+ MHZ...

It's also running hotter than it ever has.....So..it's time to retire it..

Don't worry..it will find a new home in a Seti Cruncher...

But for my main computer...I need another chip..

Of course It will be overclocked..

Now...I am thinking an XP 2100...but should I wait for the 2200 to enter the retail stream..

(I am NOT going the T-Bred for now..so the choice HAS to be an XP)

If it's the 2100 or thew 2200..I will be sending it out to be professionally UNLOCKED..

I have ruled out the 2000+ because the jump from the 1900+ to the 2000+ just isn't enough to justify.

My Goal..is SPEED and STABILITY!!!!! PERIOD!!!

The price differance isn't really a consideration....(I've been saving up for an upgrade anyway).

I am leaning towards the 2100+...as I need a chip soon..

What do the Max OC's look like between the two?

Oh...the setup will be.

Epox 8k3a+
2 x 256 Meg Corsair Pc3000 DDR...(NICE STUFF!!!!)
Antec Truepower 550 Power supply.
Swiftech MC-462A / Delta EHE 80 CFM fan
TONS of case ventilation!

Thanks
Larry

David · Apr 6, 2002

Larry Quinn said:
My good old XP1900+ has now developed an attitude!!!

I'ts dropped it's max Overclock by 50+ MHZ...

It's also running hotter than it ever has.....So..it's time to retire it..

Don't worry..it will find a new home in a Seti Cruncher...

But for my main computer...I need another chip..

Of course It will be overclocked..

Now...I am thinking an XP 2100...but should I wait for the 2200 to enter the retail stream..

(I am NOT going the T-Bred for now..so the choice HAS to be an XP)

If it's the 2100 or thew 2200..I will be sending it out to be professionally UNLOCKED..

I have ruled out the 2000+ because the jump from the 1900+ to the 2000+ just isn't enough to justify.

My Goal..is SPEED and STABILITY!!!!! PERIOD!!!

The price differance isn't really a consideration....(I've been saving up for an upgrade anyway).

I am leaning towards the 2100+...as I need a chip soon..

What do the Max OC's look like between the two?

Oh...the setup will be.

Epox 8k3a+
2 x 256 Meg Corsair Pc3000 DDR...(NICE STUFF!!!!)
Antec Truepower 550 Power supply.
Swiftech MC-462A / Delta EHE 80 CFM fan
TONS of case ventilation!

Thanks
Larry

I dont think the XP2100+ will overclock past about 2400+ level, as you will be hitting the max speed for that core if you overclock that far. Have a look around the AMD CPU area and see which steppings are the best overclockers.

Larry Quinn · Apr 6, 2002

And what core speed is considered to be 2400+ level???

Larry

David · Apr 6, 2002

Larry Quinn said:
And what core speed is considered to be 2400+ level???

Larry

2000+ is 1.66Ghz
2100+ is 1.73Ghz
2200+ is 1.80Ghz
2300+ is 1.86Ghz
2400+ is 1.93Ghz

The max will be about 2.0 to 2.1GHz

plague · Apr 6, 2002

Not trying to be picky, just want to give the right info:

2000+ is 1.66Ghz
2100+ is 1.73Ghz
2200+ is 1.80Ghz
2300+ is 1.86Ghz
2400+ is 1.93Ghz

David · Apr 6, 2002

plague said:
Not trying to be picky, just want to give the right info:

2000+ is 1.66Ghz
2100+ is 1.73Ghz
2200+ is 1.80Ghz
2300+ is 1.86Ghz
2400+ is 1.93Ghz

Whoops

I see. 1.66Ghz + 66MHz is 1.73GHz
Consider it edited

Yodums · Apr 6, 2002

Go for any of the following: 1600, 1700 and 1800. Try to find a dealer which allows you to choose the stepping and ask if you can have an AGIOGA stepping. It'll overclock like crazy to where 2000 speeds will overclock to.

Silver · Apr 6, 2002

David said:
2000+ is 1.66Ghz
2100+ is 1.73Ghz
2200+ is 1.80Ghz
2300+ is 1.86Ghz
2400+ is 1.93Ghz

The max will be about 2.0 to 2.1GHz

That looks about righ to me. I would expect 2.0.

jbslow · Apr 6, 2002

Yodums said:
Go for any of the following: 1600, 1700 and 1800. Try to find a dealer which allows you to choose the stepping and ask if you can have an AGIOGA stepping. It'll overclock like crazy to where 2000 speeds will overclock to.

Definetly my AGOIA 1600+'s rock both at default voltage setting for this mobo check signature.

Larry Quinn · Apr 6, 2002

Yodums said:
Go for any of the following: 1600, 1700 and 1800. Try to find a dealer which allows you to choose the stepping and ask if you can have an AGIOGA stepping. It'll overclock like crazy to where 2000 speeds will overclock to.

I'm not sure if 1600 will clock as high as a 2100 regaurdless of the stepping..

If it was able to pass inspection at 1800 speeds it would have been sold as a 1800+
or higher.

It's all about $.

Larry

h0mersimps0n · Apr 6, 2002

What is AGOIA (whatever), and where do you send processors to get them "professionally" unlocked...

anyone know where I can buy a 1600+ unlocked?

thanks!

David · Apr 6, 2002

h0mersimps0n said:
What is AGOIA (whatever), and where do you send processors to get them "professionally" unlocked...

anyone know where I can buy a 1600+ unlocked?

thanks!

AGOIA etc are the stepping of the CPU which tells which batch each CPU is from. CPUs of the same stepping generally have the same overclocking ability.

Silver · Apr 6, 2002

Larry Quinn said:
I'm not sure if 1600 will clock as high as a 2100 regaurdless of the stepping..

If it was able to pass inspection at 1800 speeds it would have been sold as a 1800+
or higher.

It's all about $.

Larry

Thought I might mention that my xp1600 clocks to 1.74 and many of the newer ones are breaking 1.8 on air. I unfortunately am never that lucky. The next to knock off in my class at madonion is running an xp1600 at 1.85.

h0mersimps0n · Apr 6, 2002

So where do you guys BUY unlocked processors from?

jbslow · Apr 6, 2002

I unlock my own XP's I'm sure many others do the same.

I's sure there are people who will unlock a cpu for a small fee check in the services forum when you can see it.

Larry Quinn · Apr 6, 2002

True ..XP's from the 2000+ down are a SNAP to unlock...

2100+ and 2200+ cpu's need to have bridges CUT and others joined!!

Now..I don't mind unlocking ..but to CUT is an entire differant thing!!!

Go too deep and you have a KEYCHAIN!!!!

I will be sending my 2100 to

http://www.xtwerkz.com

They have a good reputation...and I'm not about to turn a 2100 into SCRAP!

Larry

Silver · Apr 7, 2002

h0mersimps0n said:
So where do you guys BUY unlocked processors from?

Many of the regulars here do it themselves as do I too.

h0mersimps0n · Apr 7, 2002

O <----here's a cookie for you then

that wasn't my question.... thanks

Silver · Apr 7, 2002

h0mersimps0n said:
O <----here's a cookie for you then

that wasn't my question.... thanks

Thank you but you can keep your cookie. Answer to your question: Majority of us do not BUY unlocked processors.

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