Geneal "Comp = teh screwed" Qestion

Slayn · 04-21-02, 07:39 PM

Ok I have been having problems of late with my computer. Programs seem to like to crash. Pretty damned often. And then they dont work again, so I have to restart the computer. So I restart.... aaaannnnddd.... it doesnt work!

Goodie! When rebooting it alway seems to freeze. After bios when it says "bla bla DMI pool" it freezes. Sometimes I dont even get that message and it freezes. Sometimes the widows logon come on and it freezes. Sometimes it gets past that and freezes. It sure likes the freeze : (

So I thought maybe that windows is screwed, time to reformat! So I stuck in the dos boot disc. Once it froze when i tried to select to boot with cd support. once it froze in teh middle of loading. once it froze when i was at the part where it says "loading your computer this might take awhile". Then it froze after the next reboot when it was finally done loading.

As you can tell I have to reload a lot : (. Also everything takes FOREVER to load now. IE takes about 10 seconds to load. Sometimes my comp stops responding for 5 seconds when I open a menu in windows. I tried playing CS and I ended up taking about 10 mins to get into a server, where I had about 2000 ping.

What could be the matter with my computer? I have only had it for about 10-11 months now. I have:

1000 Mhz Athlon T-bird
ECS K7VZA Mobo
384MB of ram. Ones PNY crap from best buy the other is some japanese company I cant remeber which. toshiba, mitsubishi, samsung, toyota i have no idea -_-;;;
I had an nvidia vanta LT until i switched to a geforce2ti a day ago.
Some crappy $40 case i got from Fry's electrnoics that came with a 250w KingStar power supply.
Old crappy 6gb hard drive i got like 3 years ago....

Anyone have any idea which one of these is the culprit? Thanks for the input guys.

craigiz1 · 04-21-02, 07:50 PM

Just a thought. What are your temps? Did you knock your h/s when you put the new vid card in? Did you try changing back to the old vid card? Was this happening before you switched vid cards?

Slayn · 04-21-02, 07:52 PM

VIA Hardware Monitor Temps: 41c CPU 29C System.

Oh and this has been happening before I changed the video card.

craigiz1 · 04-21-02, 07:53 PM

Any new downloads? Virus?

Slayn · 04-21-02, 07:57 PM

Well basically this has been happening for awhile. But it got worse when I downloaded some stuff I saw in a thread on the video cards section. It actually got a LOT worse since I downloaded this. Thats why I tried to use the DOS boot up floppy and stick in a fresh new windows. But I cant get it to work very well. Basically before I even downloaded anything I still had the problems with it freezing when I tried to boot the computer. And sometimes it seems to turn itself on after i shutdown, i forgot to mention that. Now that I have downloaded a lot of different "tweaks" that I saw on the net, it has gotten worse.

So I know its not software only.

DaddyB · 04-21-02, 07:58 PM

Maybe there is something wrong with the ram. try different ram if you have it or try only one stick of ram if you have more then one (if it still happens try the 2nd or third stick one at a time).

if its not that then maybe you'r hard drive is on its way out or you have a virus. can't think of anything else off the top of my head, other then cleaning out all the dust and reseating your cards.

just reread your specs, that power suppl is kinda weak for your setup, think about replacing it, it could most definetly be resposable for the crashes especially if it has been happening from day one with that cpu/mobo.

Slayn · 04-21-02, 08:02 PM

Could it be the power supply? Its only 250W. And it got it from FRY'S ( ugh Im never shopping there again -_- ). It was a $40 ATX case with the power supply thats kinda cheap. Or how about the mobo? Anyone heard anything good or bad about ECS or their K7VZA model?

DaddyB · 04-21-02, 08:30 PM

Yeah the power supply could be causing it, you might want to check the ram first (just cause its easier/cheaper then buying a new power supply) but if the ram is ok the i'd say the power supply is next in line.

mr_kennedy · 04-21-02, 08:46 PM

Doesn't the reformat kinda rule out viruses.

Good points all around, but if he wants to look at the psu, he could start unplugging non critical drives, cd, floppy, taking out sound cards, modems, and reduce the load. His psu ought to be able to run cpu, mobo, video, and hdd.

He has two ram sticks, try one alone, then the other. If you have an old hard drive lying around, try it.

Wierd part is the lockups early in the bootup. He may have a bad mobo, or need a bios flash or something, not really my area though.

04-21-02, 07:39 PM	Thread Starter #1
Slayn Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Huntington Beach	Geneal "Comp = teh screwed" Qestion Ok I have been having problems of late with my computer. Programs seem to like to crash. Pretty damned often. And then they dont work again, so I have to restart the computer. So I restart.... aaaannnnddd.... it doesnt work! Goodie! When rebooting it alway seems to freeze. After bios when it says "bla bla DMI pool" it freezes. Sometimes I dont even get that message and it freezes. Sometimes the widows logon come on and it freezes. Sometimes it gets past that and freezes. It sure likes the freeze : ( So I thought maybe that windows is screwed, time to reformat! So I stuck in the dos boot disc. Once it froze when i tried to select to boot with cd support. once it froze in teh middle of loading. once it froze when i was at the part where it says "loading your computer this might take awhile". Then it froze after the next reboot when it was finally done loading. As you can tell I have to reload a lot : (. Also everything takes FOREVER to load now. IE takes about 10 seconds to load. Sometimes my comp stops responding for 5 seconds when I open a menu in windows. I tried playing CS and I ended up taking about 10 mins to get into a server, where I had about 2000 ping. What could be the matter with my computer? I have only had it for about 10-11 months now. I have: 1000 Mhz Athlon T-bird ECS K7VZA Mobo 384MB of ram. Ones PNY crap from best buy the other is some japanese company I cant remeber which. toshiba, mitsubishi, samsung, toyota i have no idea -_-;;; I had an nvidia vanta LT until i switched to a geforce2ti a day ago. Some crappy $40 case i got from Fry's electrnoics that came with a 250w KingStar power supply. Old crappy 6gb hard drive i got like 3 years ago.... Anyone have any idea which one of these is the culprit? Thanks for the input guys.
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04-21-02, 07:50 PM	#2
craigiz1 Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pompano Beach, FL	Just a thought. What are your temps? Did you knock your h/s when you put the new vid card in? Did you try changing back to the old vid card? Was this happening before you switched vid cards? __________________ Avatar by: n17ikh / My Heatware AMD XP2600/333@2.3GHz(12.5x184)(27c/35c)SLK-800/YS-TECH 48.5cfm,Gigabyte GA-7VAXP Ultra/KT400,Corsair XMS PC3200/2-3-3-6-T1,40gWDHD/7200rpm/ATA100,SapphireTech ATI 9800 Pro/Antec 480 TruePower,52x32x52x16 Combo Drive/DVD+- RW Burner,Windows XP Pro "There is no elevator to success. You have to take the stairs." Member: SETI@HOME & O/C SETI TEAM (WWW.OCSETITEAM.COM) "Oh, the equipment's guaranteed, but I have my doubts about the stuff inside." – [James Doohan, a.k.a. "Scottie"] I pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation,indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all. insert 'under GOD' here if you feel the need to.
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04-21-02, 07:52 PM	Thread Starter #3
Slayn Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Huntington Beach	VIA Hardware Monitor Temps: 41c CPU 29C System. Oh and this has been happening before I changed the video card.
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04-21-02, 07:53 PM	#4
craigiz1 Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pompano Beach, FL	Any new downloads? Virus? __________________ Avatar by: n17ikh / My Heatware AMD XP2600/333@2.3GHz(12.5x184)(27c/35c)SLK-800/YS-TECH 48.5cfm,Gigabyte GA-7VAXP Ultra/KT400,Corsair XMS PC3200/2-3-3-6-T1,40gWDHD/7200rpm/ATA100,SapphireTech ATI 9800 Pro/Antec 480 TruePower,52x32x52x16 Combo Drive/DVD+- RW Burner,Windows XP Pro "There is no elevator to success. You have to take the stairs." Member: SETI@HOME & O/C SETI TEAM (WWW.OCSETITEAM.COM) "Oh, the equipment's guaranteed, but I have my doubts about the stuff inside." – [James Doohan, a.k.a. "Scottie"] I pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation,indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all. insert 'under GOD' here if you feel the need to.
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04-21-02, 07:57 PM	Thread Starter #5
Slayn Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Huntington Beach	Well basically this has been happening for awhile. But it got worse when I downloaded some stuff I saw in a thread on the video cards section. It actually got a LOT worse since I downloaded this. Thats why I tried to use the DOS boot up floppy and stick in a fresh new windows. But I cant get it to work very well. Basically before I even downloaded anything I still had the problems with it freezing when I tried to boot the computer. And sometimes it seems to turn itself on after i shutdown, i forgot to mention that. Now that I have downloaded a lot of different "tweaks" that I saw on the net, it has gotten worse. So I know its not software only.
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04-21-02, 07:58 PM	#6
DaddyB Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada	Maybe there is something wrong with the ram. try different ram if you have it or try only one stick of ram if you have more then one (if it still happens try the 2nd or third stick one at a time). if its not that then maybe you'r hard drive is on its way out or you have a virus. can't think of anything else off the top of my head, other then cleaning out all the dust and reseating your cards. just reread your specs, that power suppl is kinda weak for your setup, think about replacing it, it could most definetly be resposable for the crashes especially if it has been happening from day one with that cpu/mobo. __________________ Mobile XP2500@2700MHz 208x13 @2.0V†††††††Dell Dimension 8100 P4 1.3 Abit NF7-S, 1024MB Corsair XMS3200††††††††††512MB PC800 RDRAM, T.B. Santa Cruz ATi Radeon X850XT, Klipsch PM 5.1†††††††††††AIW Radeon 9800, 17" Trinitron Dangerden RBX, 47c load, Dell 2005FPW†††††††Altec Lansing 4.1, THX certified Last edited by DaddyB; 04-21-02 at 08:07 PM.
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04-21-02, 08:02 PM	Thread Starter #7
Slayn Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Huntington Beach	Could it be the power supply? Its only 250W. And it got it from FRY'S ( ugh Im never shopping there again -_- ). It was a $40 ATX case with the power supply thats kinda cheap. Or how about the mobo? Anyone heard anything good or bad about ECS or their K7VZA model?
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04-21-02, 08:30 PM	#8
DaddyB Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada	Yeah the power supply could be causing it, you might want to check the ram first (just cause its easier/cheaper then buying a new power supply) but if the ram is ok the i'd say the power supply is next in line. __________________ Mobile XP2500@2700MHz 208x13 @2.0V†††††††Dell Dimension 8100 P4 1.3 Abit NF7-S, 1024MB Corsair XMS3200††††††††††512MB PC800 RDRAM, T.B. Santa Cruz ATi Radeon X850XT, Klipsch PM 5.1†††††††††††AIW Radeon 9800, 17" Trinitron Dangerden RBX, 47c load, Dell 2005FPW†††††††Altec Lansing 4.1, THX certified
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04-21-02, 08:46 PM	#9
mr_kennedy Registered Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: LR, AR, USA	Doesn't the reformat kinda rule out viruses. Good points all around, but if he wants to look at the psu, he could start unplugging non critical drives, cd, floppy, taking out sound cards, modems, and reduce the load. His psu ought to be able to run cpu, mobo, video, and hdd. He has two ram sticks, try one alone, then the other. If you have an old hard drive lying around, try it. Wierd part is the lockups early in the bootup. He may have a bad mobo, or need a bios flash or something, not really my area though.
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