Nvidia Turns Its Back on XFX

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Fudzilla has confirmed that XFX will not have any Fermi cards at launch.  The manufacturer is apparently being punished for their decision to start selling ATI based cards last year.  From the article:

Nvidia refuses to see that this might be a bad thing for the whole company as XFX has a very loyal fan base who will probably start standing up for themselves when they realize they won’t get a decent launch quantity of these cards.

In the meantime, XFX’s answer to Nvidia’s cut-out deal is bringing the fastest ever Radeon HD 5970 X2 cards with super specs, and we will try to get as many details as we can.

Continue on to Fudzilla to read the rest.

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  1. MattNo5ss
    This happened 2.5 years ago :rolleyes:


    lmfao guess next time ill look at the date before i go posting somthing i see on oc/front page! well was reading about there disagrement with evga on the evbot issue and it was on side link lmao! owell still BS
    to bad for nvidia! xfx puts out a good solid card! nvidia needs to chill, ive always been "nvidia" all the way. as of late, with a couple of there isues on volatge, now this! well ill just say i might be giving AMD/ATI a shot at my next upgarde!
    I think the heat issue concerning the Ferri is a non-issue. While I don't know it

    for a fact I do know that you all don't know for a fact either. Personally I don't think

    nVidia would screw this up considering their problems from past mistakes. I mean

    ALL companies makes mistakes, engineering mistakes and otherwise. To be progressive

    one has to learn from their past mistakes. But it's anyone's call concerning if nVidia truly

    has this heat under control. All I know is no one here knows for sure. And I do know

    if there is a problem eVGA will be right there for me if I need them. I'm covered regardless.

    Mike360000
    Bobnova
    The automotive chips were also constantly failing :P

    I've lost count of the number of ignitors i've replaced over the years.



    That's because from what I said way back, poor quality component. I started as a mechanic in 1982 i've seen quality electronic components and poorly designed ones, sorry you pick the wrong manufacturers.

    Bobnova
    The inherent issue is that the hotter it is, the faster it wears out.

    Some things are built to run hotter then others, Intel cpus compared to AMD cpus for instance.

    I personally would be more worried about the caps and VRMs and such then the die itself.

    The die is almost certainly good to 120*c or more, GPUs (especially mobile gpus) have been able to run at 100*c or a bit more for years on end for some time. Excluding, of course, the defective nvidia cores.


    Yes all we are talking about is IC's and cpu's GPU's here, that all we talk about because that is the temp readings we get from the GTX 480
    The automotive chips were also constantly failing :P

    I've lost count of the number of ignitors i've replaced over the years.

    The inherent issue is that the hotter it is, the faster it wears out.

    Some things are built to run hotter then others, Intel cpus compared to AMD cpus for instance.

    I personally would be more worried about the caps and VRMs and such then the die itself.

    The die is almost certainly good to 120*c or more, GPUs (especially mobile gpus) have been able to run at 100*c or a bit more for years on end for some time. Excluding, of course, the defective nvidia cores.
    I totally agree with you, it's how the chip is made.

    Even way back on cars when they started using IC's in the late 70 then full blown computers in the early 80's the chips were hitting temps of 90c = 194 F and over, being placed under the hood of the engine compartment and also on the engine it self, this is old news to me.:)

    Also look at this history the temp chart.

    LINK:http://www.gamingtrend.com/forums/index.php?topic=13375.0

    AMD

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    Athlon X2

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    5600+ 2.8 GHz 70

    5400+ 2.8 GHz 70

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    4800+ 2.5 GHz 72

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    FX-72 2.8 GHz 63

    FX-70 2.6 GHz 63

    FX-62 2.8 GHz 63

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    FX-57 2.8 GHz 65

    FX-55 2.6 GHz 65

    FX-55 2.6 GHz 63

    FX-53 2.4 GHz 70

    FX-53 2.4 GHz 70

    FX-51 2.2 GHz 70

    Athlon

    Model Clock Max. Temp. (º C)

    4000+ 2.6 GHz 70

    3800+ 2.4 GHz 69

    3700+ 2.4 GHz 70

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    AMD Athlon (slot) all speeds 70°C

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    AMD Sempron (T-bred/Barton core) 90°C

    AMD Sempron (Paris core) 70°C

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    AMD K6-2/K6-III (model number ending in X) 65°C

    AMD K6-2+/K6-III+ 85°C

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    Q6700 2.66 GHz 71

    Q6600 2.4 GHz 62

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    E6750 2.66 GHz 72

    E6700 2.66 GHz 60

    E6600 2.40 GHz 60

    E6550 2.33 GHz 72

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    QX6850 3.0 GHz 64.5

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    Pentium III Slot and socket 933Mhz 75°C

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    Intel Celeron 266-433Mhz 85°C

    Intel Celeron 466-533Mhz 70°C

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    Intel Celeron 633-667Mhz 82°C

    Intel Celeron 700 - 850Mhz 80°C

    Intel Celeron 900Mhz - 1.6Ghz 69 - 70°C

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    Intel Pentium II (Second Generation, 266-333Mhz) 65°C

    Intel Pentium II (350 - 400Mhz) 75°C

    Intel Pentium II (450Mhz) 70°C

    Intel Pentium 4, Pentium M (notebooks)

    Intel Pentium 4 64 - 78°C

    Intel Pentium D (dual core)

    Intel Pentium M (notebooks) 100°C

    Intel Pentium D 820 (2.8Ghz) 63°C

    Intel Pentium D 830 & 840 (3.0 - 3.2Ghz) 69.8°C

    Intel Pentium Pro

    Intel Pentium Pro. 256 or 512K L2 Cache 85°C

    Intel Pentium Pro. 1MB L2 Cache 80°C
    Just wondering, does anyone else think that the heat issue isn't really an issue at all?

    I mean I remember having graphics cards that would explode if they went over 40 degrees... isn't this just another step up?
    Bobnova
    Everything fails.


    wingman99
    However with video card they should not fail in there useful period before a upgrade is needed, that's why a good warranty is needed.

    Yes every thing fails, however people demanding a decent warranty makes life all that much better, with japans cars having a good warranty the first owner does not have to pay the price of fixing the automobile and there maid to a higher stander so they can encounter all the abuse from different people all over the world in 5-8 years under a warranty. Also they don't usaly have any problems in that warranty period and after the warranty is up.

    With german cars they have allot of trouble with there cars in the warranty period compared to japan so the german cars cost more and have more trouble and there are less of them in the usa because of that. who wants' to sit at the dealership with car always needing repairs in the warranty period and after the warranty is up. I use to be a mechanic and best friend worked at a bmw, mercedes, audi, porsche, toyota,lexus,honda,nissan, and chevy dealer ship.

    If you make a product with cheep components or poor design it will fail sooner than later and if you have a 3 year warranty it will cost manufacture more money in the long run if it fails in 3 year period.

    If you purchase the same product with a 1 year warranty at the same price as 3 year warranty, you as a consumer will be angry when the product fails after the 1 year warranty and you will look for a better warranty at the same price point. Competition does drive product reliability and competition drives prices down. It's just not a theory it works.


    Bobnova
    That made little to no sense, sorry.


    You did not get the jest of it so I edited it
    Bobnova
    Everything fails.
    However with video card they should not fail in there useful period before a upgrade is needed, that's why a good warranty is needed.

    Yes every thing fails however people demanding a decent warranty makes life all that much better, with japans cars having a good warranty the first owner does not have to pay the price of fixing the automobile and there maid to a higher stander so they can encounter all the abuse from different people all over the world in 5-8 years under warranty. Also they don't usaly have any problems in that warranty period and after the warranty is up.

    With german cars they have allot of trouble with there cars in the warranty period compared to japan so the german cars cost more and have more trouble and there are less of them in the usa because of that. who wants' to sit at the dealership with car always needing repairs in the warranty period and after the warranty is up. I use to be a mechanic and best friend worked at a bmw, mercedes, audi, porsche, toyota,lexus,honda,nissan, and chevy dealer ship.

    If you make a product with cheep components or poor design it will fail sooner than later and if you have a 3 year warranty it will cost manufacture more money in the long run if it fails in 3 year period.

    If you purchase the same product with a 1 year warranty at the same price as 3 year warranty, you as a consumer will be angry when the product fails after the 1 year warranty and you will look for a better warranty at the same price point. Competition does drive product reliability and competition drives prices down. it's just not a theory it works.
    Most may not, some will.

    When it happens to be your card that fails, you'll be mighty happy if you have a good warranty, and mighty sad if you don't.

    German cars are an excellent example of that thinking wingman, they are built to never fail.

    So guess what? When they fail, they are an expensive pain in the rear to fix.

    Hondas and toyotas and surbarus however, are built knowing that some will fail, and are hence much cheaper and easier to fix.

    Everything fails.
    satiro
    They are so messed up because most of the people that I know want XFX because of the warranty. this is a shame to nvidia cause they won't be selling cards that much... they are kind of lame by doing this. they should do all the opposite to create more pristige with xfx. btw the nvidia gaming card gtx 480 sucks.. it gets as warm as an oven...


    You got to be kidding LOL you don't like a good warranty you don't what a company to staid behind there products. There not supposed to fail that's why they have a good warrantee and most don't fail.:shock:

    So what if a GTX 480 gets hot do you not have a good warranty LOL.
    They are so messed up because most of the people that I know want XFX because of the warranty. this is a shame to nvidia cause they won't be selling cards that much... they are kind of lame by doing this. they should do all the opposite to create more pristige with xfx. btw the nvidia gaming card gtx 480 sucks.. it gets as warm as an oven...
    Video card wars have persisted since, ugh since the first video card.

    I used to be a big 3DFX guy myself.

    And I've used several cards/chipsets from different companies.

    Over time I've come to the conclusion that the company making the card is actually more

    important than the company making the chipset/gpu.

    That being understood there is only ONE card company that I stay with now.

    eVGA has a loyal buyer with me and as long as they stay anywhere near as good as they

    are now, they will have no trouble in keeping me. I've purchased at least 2 dozen video

    cards from them. Had one RMA and one trade up. Service and support is the best in the

    computer industry as far as I am concerned. NEVER a problem!

    So at this stage in the game, if ati comes out with a gpu/chipset that is faster than nvidia's;

    so what? I'll stay with eVGA and know I have some backup. And if nVidia comes out

    with a faster gpu/chipset, well I know I got the fastest as well as getting it from the best

    card company.

    Even the post earlier showed for the record, eVGA does in fact have the best warranty,

    bar none! I rest easy and satisfied......

    A big reason I am here posting this is not because of the gpu/chipset wars, but in testifying

    on behalf of a VERY good company. Something that is hard to find these days....

    Mike360000