Steiger Dynamics Unveils the LEET – Extreme HTPC

I posted this on the forum yesterday and it was just a tad premature, as there have been a couple changes to the release since that time (changes I’m proud to say were at least a little bit influenced by our esteemed editing team), so ignore my old post and read on!

Today we present to you a new company, Steiger Dynamics. They are bringing a whole new level of PC to home theaters. Here’s their press release:

STEIGER DYNAMICS Unveils The LEET™ – The World’s First Liquid Cooled & Most Powerful Gaming Home Theater PC (HTPC)

LOS ANGELES, CA – STEIGER DYNAMICS proudly presents the world’s first liquid cooled and most powerful Home Theater PC (HTPC), bringing high-end gaming to the comfort of your living room.

HTPC reinvented

The LEET™ is a full spec, custom-built PC with a distinct design, form factor, and functionality for the living room. By integrating media center, server, and high-end gaming functionality, the LEET™ represents a whole new generation of home computers – blurring the line between enthusiast desktop PCs, gaming consoles, and home entertainment devices. Connected to a Full HD (3D) TV and surround sound system, the LEET™ delivers an unprecedented high-definition gaming and home entertainment experience to the PC, audio, and video enthusiast. Due to its sleek design, ultra-silent operation, and easy integration with other home theater components, the system perfectly blends into any existing living room setup.

“The living room will play an increasing role in PC gaming. Enthusiasts are looking for the maximum graphics and entertainment experience. Needless to say, their modern living room is more suitable for this than their office. With the LEET™ we created a product that will get PC gamers out from behind their desks,” says Martin Hehensteiger (Co-Founder & CEO, STEIGER DYNAMICS).

“We achieved our goal of creating the ultimate no-compromise living room computer with all the performance and functionality one could possibly imagine. Simply put, the LEET™ is the very best HTPC ever built,” says Martin Gossner (Co-Founder & CTO, STEIGER DYNAMICS).

Steiger Dynamics LEET

Steiger Dynamics LEET

Brute Performance

Based on ASUS’ top-of-the-line Z77 and X79 motherboards, the LEET™ supports latest generation Intel Core-i7 four- and six-core processors. State-of-the-art liquid cooling solutions allow overclocking to over 5 GHz while keeping the system extremely silent.

“The LEET™ lives up to its name – it is truly elite,” says Thi La (Senior VP & GM of Memory and Enthusiast Component Products, Corsair). “Our Neutron GTX SSDs in RAID 0 mode deliver read speeds beyond 1,100 MB/s. And – when it comes to pure system performance and snappiness – the combination with up to 64 GB Dominator Platinum RAM elevates this Home Theater PC into a league of its own.”

Mind-blowing Graphics

The LEET™ features up to a 4K-ready Quad-SLI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 690 configuration. Connected to a large screen TV or projector, the LEET™ lets you play latest PC games with astonishing Full HD graphics, all while sitting in the comfort of your couch.

“The LEET™ utilizes the full potential of EVGA NVIDIA based GeForce graphics cards,” says Bob Klase (VP of Sales, EVGA). “It handles with ease the most graphics-intensive current and future games in high-definition and stereoscopic 3D. All while using the highest possible graphics settings. On a large TV, this experience is entrancing and immersive.”

All-in-one Functionality

In addition to high-end gaming, the LEET™ delivers a full-fledged Microsoft® Windows® 8 experience, Blu-ray TM playback in Dolby® TrueHD™, lossless HD Audio®, HD cable TV, and online streaming services like Netflix and Spotify®. The systemstores up to 1,000 Blu-ray TM movies or 3 million MP3s, and its home server functionality allows immediate media streaming to any mobile device.

“The LEET™ creates a user experience that has simply not been offered before. A Home Theater PC with endless functionality and uber performance – that’s really impressive. And thanks to the mutually developed custom liquid cooling solution, it is dead silent,” says Gabe Rouchon (CEO, Swiftech).

Steiger Dynamics LEET

Steiger Dynamics LEET

Freedom of Control

Users have the freedom of choice when it comes to wireless control. Whether they prefer any kind of smartphone or tablet, remote control, touchpad, or mouse and keyboard, the LEET™ offers all these options and more. In addition, users will be able to play games with Xbox 360® controllers or their favorite race and flight simulation gear.

Cameron Helm, a LEET™ trial customer remarked, “playing Battlefield 3 with a wireless mouse and keyboard from my couch worked perfectly. I am very sensitive to input lags and ergonomics, and I felt no difference to my wired desktop setup.”

Engineering Excellence

Pursuing STEIGER DYNAMICS’ no-compromise approach, every system is handcrafted with ingenious passion, uncompromising quality, and unparalleled attention to detail. The exclusively designed hand-brushed aluminum chassis has an unmatched wall-thickness of 0.2” (5mm). The system’s integrated 7” front screen features the exclusive LEET™ Monitor App, designed to be easily readable from the sofa. This tool constantly monitors and displays system parameters like available drive space, CPU/GPU clocks and load levels as well as respective temperatures.

All system cables are single sleeved and custom-tailored to the chassis, accounting for an extremely clean interior and optimized airflow. The LEET™ is built-to-order and incorporates only the highest-quality components from carefully selected, best-in-category partners. Prior to shipping, every single system is thoroughly stress-tested and benchmarked for 72 hours.

Steiger Dynamics LEET

Steiger Dynamics LEET

Customers First

The LEET™ comes with a 30 day money-back guarantee, 3 years limited warranty, and lifetime customer care. “A no-compromise product like the LEET™ deserves only the very best product support. Therefore, we made ‘Customer Care’ a core value of our company.” Martin & Martin (Founders of STEIGER DYNAMICS)

Line-up and Pricing

The LEET™ is available in three different lines – Pure, Core, and Reference. The Pure line starts at $1,998 and caters to Media Center, Audio and Video Enthusiast. The Core line is available from $2,698 and is tailored to the hardcore overclocker and gamer. The 6-core CPU based Reference line starts at $3,398 and features only top-of-the-line components, delivering the highest processing and graphics power available today.

LEET Base Configuration Pricing

LEET Base Configuration Pricing

Additional Product Specifications
• “Wife-approved” black or silver hand-brushed full aluminum LEET™ chassis with an unmatched wall
thickness of 0.2” (5mm), perfectly blending into any existing TV and Audio setup
• Integrated 7” Samsung front screen showing the exclusive LEET™ Monitor app
• Front panel with SD/Memory Card reader, USB 3.0 and front HD-Audio connectors
• Liquid cooling solutions for extremely silent 24/7 operation
• Single sleeved cables and cable management for an air-flow optimized, clean interior
• Optional acrylic glass lid and LED lighting
• Up to 5 GHz overclocked Intel Core-i7 Hexa-Core CPU
• Up to 64 GB 2133 MHz DDR3 Memory
• Up to NVIDIA GTX 690 Quad-SLI graphic cards
• Up to 1 TB SSD system drives in RAID 0 mode
• Up to 12 TB storage space for up to 1,000 Blu-ray™ movies or 3 million MP3s
• Optional Full-HD Quad Cable-TV tuner
• Blu-ray/DVD/CD drive/writer
• User-preferred wireless control
• Microsoft ® Windows® 8
• Dimensions (HxWxD): 8.7 x 17.1 x 15.4 inches (22.0 x 43.5 x 39.0 cm)

About STEIGER DYNAMICS

STEIGER DYNAMICS is a revolutionary system builder bringing high-end PC gaming to the comfort of your living room. The company was founded in 2012 by McKinsey Consultant and UCLA Anderson MBA graduate Martin Hehensteiger (CEO) and Mercedes-Benz Product Strategist Martin Gossner (CTO). Both of them became attached to PC gaming with shooters like Doom, grew up with multiplayer-games like Quake, went semi-professional in Counter-Strike and are now enjoying the ultimate 3D gaming experience in their living rooms with latest games like Crysis 2 and Metro 2033. STEIGER DYNAMICS’ products are developed by enthusiasts for enthusiasts, and the founders ensure that every system is built as if it was their own. For more information, please visit www.steigerdynamics.com and www.facebook.com/STEIGERDYNAMICS.

Now, obviously this is not for the light of wallet. There is a reason these systems cost so much, and after speaking with Mr. Gossner on the phone today, I’m starting to become a believer. A couple quick points to reiterate that make this type of premium system so, well, premium priced -

  • Custom chassis – This is one of the biggest selling points in my opinion (and that of anyone that looks at them). Heck, people commented they’d just want the case by itself if they can’t afford the whole system (hint hint Steiger…). If my experiences over the years with Lian Li aluminum cases is any indication, the case itself accounts for several hundred dollars of that bottom line, especially with the integrated 7″ screen.
  • Custom PSU Wiring – They mention that they have single sleeved cables, but that’s not the only thing that they do. Mr. Gossner said there is little room to maneuver in these cases, meaning not much room for cable management. So what they do is customize the length of all necessary PSU wires, then they single sleeve them for the cleanest look they can get. That definitely increases cost.
  • Fans – They don’t mention it because many people don’t know about such things, but our readers are a bit different. Anyone who has water cooled a system has at least heard of Scythe Gentle Typhoon fans. Well, that’s what goes into these systems, and unless my memory is incorrect, they use AP-15′s to be precise. Those retail for $15.99 a pop at Sidewinder.
  • Did I mention it looks really good?

It remains to be seen if these can really be considered worth the price of admission. On their face, yes, they’re expensive; but when you dig into just why they’re that expensive, maybe it’s worth it. Thankfully, we expect to get the chance to find out when they loan us a system for review in January!

For more information, you can check out their site at http://www.steigerdynamics.com and on FaceBook at http://www.facebook.com/STEIGERDYNAMICS.

-Jeremy Vaughan (hokiealumnus)

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27 Comments:

Culbrelai's Avatar
These are really OP for HTPCs...
fornoob's Avatar
I should have missed something about the use of an HTPC... six cores?? RAID 0 SSDs??
Robert17's Avatar
I selflessly volunteer to take on the task of stress testing one of these systems to validate the 3 year warranty; I'll write up a review with pics at that time. PM me for shipping instructions. I know, I know, you can thank me in 3 years.
MattNo5ss's Avatar
Glad to see they were able to put a better GPU in all the models since they are marketing this as a "power gaming" HTPC

I think it would be worth the extra $30 to put the 3770K back in the middle model. That could be a deal breaker for sales, especially since their niche seems to be enthusiasts. Also, if they would like to reduce cost further, then they could put less powerful PSUs in the base models since all the PSUs currently used are overkill for the hardware. Just more stuff to consider now or in the future
EarthDog's Avatar
I like that they jumped up in the GPU department. And agree with Matt on getting the K series for the "Core" system (or at least an upgrade otion), and a lesser PSU on the "Pure" system.

THese days, a QUALITY 550W PSU (like they have in Seasonic) will handle ANY single GPU and CPU with heavy overclocking (example - on my daily driver I have a 3570K @ 4.5GHz and a 680 overclocked to 1270 boost and +300 on the ram and it doesnt break 410W at the wall, so around 350W actual). Perhaps offer an optional 750W model in case users would like to SLI/Crossfire. With that wattage, I ran 3770K @ 4.9GHz, 2 7970's @ 1200/1750 and hit 735W at the wall (so around 660W actual use).

What does OP mean? Normally its Original Poster but, not sure it means that in this case.
MattNo5ss's Avatar
Overpowered

For just an HTPC it is very OP, but it's supposed to be a gaming system too.
hokiealumnus's Avatar
Yikes, I didn't even notice the missing "K" on there. That's disappointing to say the least. It makes the custom water cooling completely pointless. I thought motherboard & GPU were the only things they changed. Ouch.

Come to think of it, water cooling is already pointless in the base model...who needs to water cool a 3220....and who would pay two grand for a system with a 3220 + integrated GPU? As a "value" proposition, I think the mid-range is the best of the three. Trust me, in the review, I'll be going over every piece of hardware in the system they send to see how much cheaper it would be had I built it. My hope is that the labor-intensive install, absolutely premium case and premium part selection (i.e. AP-15 fans) plus some allocation for warranty will make it worth the price for those with that kind of cash to drop at once.

Also, agreed it's OP (new acronym for this old guy) for an HTPC, but it's perfect for a HTPC gaming system, which is where they're aiming these systems.
wagex's Avatar
i can see it being maybe half the price tbh unless im way out of the "loop" on WC these days.

get a silverstone / lian li micro cubie lookin case cut a window in the top slap in some WC and stuff bam
MattNo5ss's Avatar
In case everyone didnt know, they have a "configurator" to upgrade parts after selecting the base model. I just noticed they've added the 3770K to their configurator as an option for $30 more, so no issue with lower CPU in the base. I didn't check their configurator for that change before I posted. They could add lower wattage PSUs to the base and keep higher wattage PSUs as an option in case people want to select SLI configs from the GPU section.
hokiealumnus's Avatar
Well, why speculate? Let's do the math for the Core system.

System
ASUS P8Z77-V - $189.99
i7 3770 - $299.99
8GB Corsair 1866 - $89.99 (Dom Platinum, which seems to be their choice)
EVGA GTX 660 - $229.99
120GB Corsair Neutron SSD - $139.99
660W SeasonicX Gold - $159.99
Blu-Ray / DVD Writer - $64.99
Win 8 - $69.99
Case (speculating here) - $300 Well, I was way off. I'm told the cost of the case + cabling is closer to $800!
AP-15 fans, 4 @ $15.99 - $63.96
Front panel reader - $40
Total parts - $2,148.88

Water loop (pricing from Sidewinder Computers)
Swiftech Apogee Drive II - $134.99
Swiftech MCR120-XP - $33.99
Swiftech MCR220-XP - $39.99
Tubing - Feser White, 5ft @ $2.49/ft - $12.45
Res (assuming there is one, just guessing at price) - $34.99
Compression & Rotary compression fittings, at least six if not eight (another guess, typically these are $9.99 to $15.99; we'll assume four rotary compression and four straight compression) - $103.92
Water Loop total - $360.33

Parts plus loop - $2,509.21

On top of that, you pay for the extensive install labor (with PSU wire customization, water loop install, overclocking & stress testing), warranty and they also have to make a profit. When looked at from that perspective, it's not too bad of a price.

People will get sticker shock before they realize what all goes into these things. Once looked at from that perspective, it seems like the price borders on reasonable.

Glad the K is in their configurator, thanks Matt!
STEIGERDYNAMICS's Avatar
Hey guys!

I am Martin, CTO of STEIGER DYNAMICS. I wanted to say thank you for the very constructive feedback we got from this forum. We really appreciate that.

I know that our sticker price seems to be a little high at first. However, we are pursuing an absolute no-compromise approach with our systems when it comes to component and build quality. We would never deliver a system which we wouldn't put into our own living room. That's our claim.

Unfortunately that brings along a couple of quite expensive components, like our solid aluminum case with screen which would retail for over $800. The custom cabling on top. I am also aware that a power supply with less output would be sufficient for our base systems and would bring the sticker price down. However, there is no fully modular PSUs with Gold standard and lower output (The Seasonic X-560 is discontinued). That means we couldn't go fully custom with our cables which again would be a compromise we are not willing to take. Also, 660W from the start will allow you to upgrade your system at any time. I believe with that in mind and - as stated by hokie - given the intense labor and warranty, our pricing is fair.

Hope I could mitigate some of your concerns and I'm happy to answer any other questions.

Thanks again for your feedback!
Mandrake4565's Avatar
Martin, it is nice to see a company that has the gumption, to put together a system with the type of quality the Leet system has. It seems as if a lot of companies these days just throw a system together with the cheapest parts they can find. I applaud the effort that is put into your HTPC.
Culbrelai's Avatar
Not to sound mean but what is the point of this on a forum where it is almost universally expected to build your own PC?

Although, people with deep pockets and shy minds might bite, like I used to be. Good competition for ibuypower, AVAdirect, XoticPC, DigitalStorm and all of those other PC-putter-togetherers.
jaymz9350's Avatar
honestly if I had the dough id buy it. unlike most OEM pc's it uses the same ( or at least same quality) parts I would use, it looks good and as hookie pointed out it really isn't badly priced when you break it down
Seebs's Avatar
Welcome to the madness that is OCF Martin. I'm sure you'll fit right in.

The case is just awesome. Not sure if you've thought about this; maybe you have, but one thing that would widen your target marked is if you sold the cases by themselves as well as doing pre-built units.

I know I am one of those that would rather put the components in myself than get it all done... For me; half the satisfaction of building a new computer is the few hours spend unpacking components and struggling to get the cable management done.

Just my 0.02.

PS: I just noticed that the link on the Buy Now button in the LEET features page.

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Seebs
freeagent's Avatar
Nice review! Solid setups for the liveing room, I like the cabinet they are housed in, very nice

As for price, Hokie is right!

Seems like everyone wants something for nothing.. bunch of tighties


My htpc has 6 cores and raid 0 ssd
hokiealumnus's Avatar
Not a review yet, just a press release and welcoming a newcomer to the market.

Speaking of, welcome to OCF Martin!
STEIGERDYNAMICS's Avatar
Thanks for the warm welcome

And Thanks Seebs for the broken link - everything is fixed now and we'll be working on a better configurator description over the next days.
givmedew's Avatar
Anyone notice that the way these are described is now just an option?

"All system cables are single sleeved and custom-tailored to the chassis"

$99 Option (Is not standard/included at any price model level)

Not that the write up claims any high end cooling is included in the price it certainly eludes to it. All 3 systems priced w/ Corsair H60 (which I am sure they get for a steal).

Some of the options are priced very well with the consumer only paying the difference you would probably imagine if you build it yourself. Some of the prices (SSD) seem to be lower than what you would expect to pay.

The choice of RED HDDs is interesting. Not at all the wrong choice but I wonder if it is a price, heat, power usage, performance or network media serving that they had in mind when selecting the REDs as the only drive choice.

IMO Great price given the case they include.

If you went out and bought all the gear you'd be looking at ~$670 add $50 for the AP-15s your at ~$720 So $1080 for an amazing custom case, 7" LCD, Labor and shipping) at least $100 for shipping I would think. Plus you can throw in a second 120GB SSD for half the retail price.

Oh add $100 for the windowed case

I wonder how well they would do if they sold the case separately as well.

Nice read
Seebs's Avatar
This... One thousand times this... They're closing the doors to a much wider customer base by not offering the case as a stand alone. Plenty of enthusiast modders and builders out there that would have a field day with one of them cases... And it's not like having it be an expensive case would drive people away... Just look at Caselabs; those things cost a pretty penny and still you see builds pop up all over the place with them.
STEIGERDYNAMICS's Avatar
After multiple customer requests (and it also being suggested in this forum) we decided to offer lower-powered PSUs. Those are however not fully-modular (but still with Gold certified efficiency) and hence cannot be used with our custom cabling, consequently making this optional equipment. For those not ordering the lid with acrylic glass window it won't make a difference though.

The LEET Core comes with the H80i as standard and the LEET Reference with the H100i. The new generation of Corsairs pre-sealed liquid coolers (incl. the H60) are actually of way better quality and nicer looking than their predecessors, but unfortunately also more expensive.

The HDDs are one of the two sources of potential noise in our systems (the other being the pump while the fans are inaudible on idle and low loads). This is why we have tested all major HDDs in the market upon fulfilling our requirements like low noise and temperatures, high efficiency, warranty, and continuous operation capabilities (design, TLER support for RAID). With lowest seek noise and vibrations in its respective capacities the WD Red was the only drive matching all our requirements.
STEIGERDYNAMICS's Avatar
We will discuss this topic internally soon.
STEIGERDYNAMICS's Avatar
Happy New Year guys!

Looks like you have been once more a step ahead

We received so much love and requests from the DIY community that we decided today to offer our chassis by itself. It can be ordered directly from our website and only by using this link:

https://www.steigerdynamics.com/prod...?idproduct=249

Thanks for your feedback!
jake13942's Avatar
Love the case, it screams quality but $798 for the case + $79 for the glass lid is a little steep especially when that bright 7" screen would spend most of its time OFF in an HTPC setup. I have a MonCaso 972 and that LCD is VERY distracting when watching movies. I would much prefer a AVR kinda display that is actually usable like the VF310 that Origen AE has in some of their cases. I think the case is promising, if they offer a VFD version for around ~$500.
RJARRRPCGP's Avatar
The Leet Pure is meh!

Ouch, almost $2,000 for specs that are like a $300 box at Walmart!

(Especially the processor!) (Come on! That much for a dual core, like it's 2007!)

That's $300 HP-like specs there.
Boulard83's Avatar
Prefer my HTPC. Good looking lian-li box, I5 2500k, GTX 650ti, 8gb ram, OS on an SSD and 2 1tb WD blacks...
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