Virtual Real Hunting

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Do you ever find yourself not enjoying your video game genocidal spree as much as usual because you’re not really killing? Do you tire of killing what after all are usually figments of somebody’s imagination?

Would you like to go hunting and shooting on the Internet, and end up with something, well, really dead?

Well, very shortly, you’ll be able to do just that, and here’s where you can do just that.

Basically, someone who runs a hunting ranch in Texas has decided to enter the computer era. He’s set up a computer-controlled rifle that people on the Internet can aim and fire. Right now, public use is limited to target-shooting, but they plan to shortly offer real animal hunting (technology and the Texas Legislature willing).

Before any sick puppies get any ideas, the system is monitored so that you can’t shoot what you’re not supposed to shoot (like the ranch employees or other hunters). If you end up being not such a hot shot, those monitoring folks will have a gun handy to finish the job (and hopefully turn off the remote firing mechanism before venturing out to do so).

You can have your hunt recorded and put on a DVD, and purchase all the other services you might want after your hunt, like meat packing, taxidermy and the like.

Real-time, real-life Internet shooting won’t come cheap, though, a hunt with all the fixings will cost something a bit north of $500, though the price is probably not that much different than those charged for an old-style trophy hunt.

Target-shooting is much cheaper, $14.95 a month to join, $5.95 per ten-round clip.

Some folks in the Texas Legislature don’t like this idea at all, and want to ban it, but the owner of the place says it’s hardly any different than current guided hunting, and it’s hard not to agree with him. If you’re against this, you’re not against Internet hunting, you’re against hunting.

If this does well, no doubt this field of enterprise will spread.

We suspect current real hunters will take it or leave it, based mostly on how much or little access they have to the real thing. We see it as just another way the Internet makes what would otherwise be difficult or inconvenient easy.

What we’re curious about is what gamers will think about this. Will many like this idea because the killing is real, or repulsed by the reality?

Do gamers like violence in video games despite their actions having no real-life consequences, or do they like it precisely because their actions have no real-life consequences?

Ed

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  1. i've been hunting my whole life. I dont' buy the disabled crap either, as was mentioned in other posts. I am disabled myself (right shoulder with what the doc said was i completely tore all the ligaments and tendons away). Yet, I still get out and hunt. It is hard enough to defend to people that I hunt for food, that I hunt because it is in my blood, because it is my heritage, and because it is almost a rite of passage here. Then this stuff comes along, and like harryinny3 said.... it gives us good, upright hunters a bad reputation.

    Trophy hunting/whatever P.O.S. this is... i don't agree with it. Hunting shouldn't be for 'sport' or trophies.... hunting should be because it is necessary (for food... it is much, much, MUCH healthier than what you can buy in a store, and around here where money is scarce... one big deer can feed a family of 4 for 2 or 3 months)
    Oh, and for all of you wanting to kill animals for no point, just buy a deer hunter game (plenty of those) and call it that!


    EXACTLY Right Man. This (If hunters (REAL Hunters) Dont voice in opposition to this, It Will give The Hunters who Are sportsman(This means Fair chase 0f game) A BAd name and give Hunting a Black eye. The Hunters who Just go out Hunting because its a legal way to Just kill, They wont be affected, Because in my Book, There Not Hunters(Or sportsman) There Just KILLERS, In it for the Joy of Killing.

    25 years of my Life Being Ethical, And being thew Best Hunter I can be, And some stupid S**T like this goes down, and Gives ALL Hunters a BAd Stigma.

    Harry
    Never. This PROVES that society is so f-ed up, they won't do crap about it.


    Eventually someone has to become so fed up with it that he starts doing something against it.
    This is the last thing that I will say about this subject and I am done:

    I live in Northern CA, where deer and hunting animals flow like wine ( :p ), everyone that I am surrounded by hunts. I personally don't see the point, when you can go get the same stuff from the store, but I understand that hunting is supposed to be a "bonding period" between people that you hunt with. Think about it.. You camp together, live together, you count on each other, without one person the other fails (atleat this is the way I see it)... But I cannot see the point in killing animals... in this manner. I have a hard time thinking that I could kill a poor helpless beings when it's not in self-defense.... but this is just me, and I understand other people LOVE to hunt, infact for people, it's their LIFE, I'm ok with that. But what I absolutely hate about this "internet hunting" deal is that the gun is controlled by a computer with damn near pin-point accuracy and like harryinny3 said, the animal has no chance. And to make matters worse, the animal is STAGED to be there so you pretty much have a guarenteed kill.

    Also, what is the person behind the computer benefiting from this? You don't get to eat your game, or hang it's head on your wall and call it a "trophy"... But what you do get is a score sheet telling you what type of score you got and you can compare with your friends....lol WOW! WHAT AN EXCITING REWARD - Killing an animal just to have a tiny piece of paper or DVD of your shot/kill with a rifle that has pin-point accuracy that has a 99% chance of actually hitting the target... Wow, some achievement and skill.

    In short, the only people I can perceive actually doing this are psychotics and people who LOVE to watch things suffer and die for no reason but a DVD or paper.

    Just to make something clear before I head off. I am by no means an eviromentalist, or against hunters in anyway, but I just have good morals about this kind of thing.

    Oh, and for all of you wanting to kill animals for no point, just buy a deer hunter game (plenty of those) and call it that!
    Is this private property? Because if it is, I just realized that no one can do anything legal wise. It's like here in CA, if you are on your own private property you can drive w/o a license/shoot on your own property.

    lol those sneaky little ********... just slipping right through the damn law. **sigh** I better leave this subject alone before I get really mad. :(


    I'm so close to calling up my lawyer and fax this bullcrap TOS to him and seeing if this is actually legit.


    Well since YOU are not actually pulling the trigger, only the owner of the tripod gun will have to have a licence for that specific area, not the user behind his pc....
    According to alot of people it has gotten already, many times in the past. It al depends where you lay your definition.

    It will contenue to 'grow', more and moreextremities will come up. When will society put a stop to it?


    It should be straight up illegal.... If you read the TOS, I do not get why they require you to show/provide licensing for your state/county... What is this telling us? That all hunting licenses are valid in every state/county no matter where the originating state the license came from? This makes absolutely no sense.

    I'm so close to calling up my lawyer and fax this bullcrap TOS to him and seeing if this is actually legit.


    It has now gotten WAY out of hand.


    According to alot of people it has gotten already, many times in the past. It al depends where you lay your definition.

    It will contenue to 'grow', more and moreextremities will come up. When will society put a stop to it?
    I honestly think this is probably the most stupidest thing I have EVER heard in my life. I can't even believe this is happening.... It literally makes me sick.

    ARRRGGHHH... :mad:

    Have you ever felt like decking someone in the face?

    It has now gotten WAY out of hand.
    Ive been a Hunter for 25 years. I Have Hunted all Over North america. Every Out of state hunt ive Been on were SELF guided Hunts. Where your dropped off By Plane, and Tent and Walk, and Pack for 13 days. Never in my life have I heard of such a thing. Internet hunting with the Aid of A computer. The guns are Zeroed in to Within a 1/4 inch. This is Just a sad Thing. Hunting is Suppose to be an Itimate experiance. This is Just wrong. The animal in persuit Has no chance. Thats NOT Hunting. Its Just a cruel Cheap thrill. A Thrill of Killing. Most of these folks will pay the money to Just KILL, and not bother Having the meat Delivered.

    Im a dissabled hunter, Broke my back in 2 places in 1999. I Still get out and Hunt. My Bow instructer years ago Had only use of one hand(Not arm), and Could use his head. They made him a Bow holder for his chair, Made a special camo pickup with a blind in the back, and he had a special release he Triggered with his chin after aiming with his Wheelchair. So this dissabled crud Just dont Wash!!!!!! This man was a 5 time national Archery champion, and The pioneer of Modern Bow hunting. John Dumar. RIP John.

    Harry
    I can here an old friend now; "Only in America can we be so lazy to take the hunt out of hunting!" I don't buy into the handicap angle either. I knew an older man who had arthritis so bad he could barley write his own name. He was legally handicap, had emphysema, liver problems, 3 of his vertebra fused together, and had trouble walking where just a few of his problems. But he could still find ways to get out in the middle of the woods to hunt dear, right to his last year of life. There are many handicap ATVs and ATV mods out there to allow even people paralyzed the ability to drive off road. Not to mention hunting is a buddy sport, your out there for more than the kill.

    To just use a computer to do it for you defies the point of hunting. I am fine with this as someones business, just don't call it hunting.


    I'm more worried about this causing psychosis... if a video game can suddenly be real... sorry, the idea is too big right now, need time to absorb it.

    Meanwhile, I'm waiting for the new Army posterboy: a pimply, 250-lb 30-year-old who lives with his parents.

    ~N.


    Gives a whole new definition to a 'LAN Party'
    Matttheniceguy and TollhouseFrank hit this one on the head. This isn't hunting, this is target practice... and you aren't even there. Skill involved: none.

    "Ooh, I can move my mouse and click!" Faugh!

    As for the America's Armies thing...

    It'll come, friend. Sorry, but it will. It's been building for a long time.

    Go read "Ender's Game" by Orson Scott Card, or watch "Toys", with Robin Williams (I think that was a part of the movie, sorry, never watched it through, cannot stand that guy).

    And why wouldn't it? It's "humane" after all... our soldiers won't actually be in any danger, they'll be miles away in a bunker, staring at a couple of computer screens.

    I'm more worried about this causing psychosis... if a video game can suddenly be real... sorry, the idea is too big right now, need time to absorb it.

    Meanwhile, I'm waiting for the new Army posterboy: a pimply, 250-lb 30-year-old who lives with his parents.

    ~N.
    Ima start an internet butchery chain where if you pay $300 to shoot a cartoon cow, I'll ship you $250 worth of steak and hamburg.


    ROFLMAO :clap:
    am a hunter, and always will be.

    if you are not good enough of a person to actually WALK miles into the woods, sit, wait, actually shoot it.... gut and skin it... cook it yourself.... THEN YOU HAVE NO REASON TO EVER PICK UP THAT GUN.

    this 'hunting over the net'.... is just poaching. I look at it as just poaching. Plain and simple. Hunters enjoy the experience, the hunt for food.... they don't hunt for trophy or bragging rights (though we do brag for years about that 30 pointer that weighed a ton :D ).
    I'm getting deja vu here, did someone post a thread about this in GD a few months back?

    Anyhoo, seems a bit of a pointless and unsatisfying way to get your jollies. Ima start an internet butchery chain where if you pay $300 to shoot a cartoon cow, I'll ship you $250 worth of steak and hamburg.