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SPL Tech

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Now there is a 10 gbps fiber connection you can get and it's "only" $300 per month!

https://epb.com/home-store/internet/nextnet

That begs the question, what in all hell would you possibly use 10 gbps for other than running a massive covert underground server farm in your basement? Or for that matter, even 1 gbps? Or even 500 mbps? Really, 100 mbps is more than fast enough to do anything, anywhere, anytime. I can stream 4k video on the TV, game on my computer in the bedroom and have my kid play xbox in his room all at the same time, all without leg and only on 100 mbps. So really, anything more seems like extreme excess.
 

Tír na nÓg

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Well, downloading 50GB 4k movies. Collaborative work in media industry (work on raw 4k video files...). Playing 4k 144fps games on a thin client...

World is changing, in a near future, everything will be cloud based, and the more bandwidth the better!
 
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Well, downloading 50GB 4k movies. Collaborative work in media industry (work on raw 4k video files...). Playing 4k 144fps games on a thin client...

World is changing, in a near future, everything will be cloud based, and the more bandwidth the better!

4k movies are not 50 GB on Netflix. They compress the **** out of that to save bandwith and they probably drop the framerate to 24 FPS. Dont count on your cloud idea. Very few people are going to be okay with their personal information residing in the hands of a third party--every scrap of digital information on their computer in the hands of someone they know nothing about. Yea, very unlikely.
 

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4k movies are not 50 GB on Netflix. They compress the **** out of that to save bandwith and they probably drop the framerate to 24 FPS. Dont count on your cloud idea. Very few people are going to be okay with their personal information residing in the hands of a third party--every scrap of digital information on their computer in the hands of someone they know nothing about. Yea, very unlikely.

Compressed as you say...

Cloud idea? I don't think it is what people are about, it is what corporations want, and we are going to an "all-cloud" new paradigm, be it that we like it or not... (Slack, Adobe Cloud, Office 365...).

Sure, some people will be reluctant at start, but won't have much of a choice in a few years!
 
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EarthDog

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Netflix reccomends 25mbs for uhd. But downloading and streaming are two different things.

Weird the denial of cloud with all the things going on with it around us...





PS - Moved the thread to Networking. This is not a GD topic since we have an existing section JUST for networking talk. GD is for generally non technical discussions..
 
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mackerel

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I'd like a viable off-site storage solution and my connection is currently 3MB up which is totally sucky. Ideal world, I'd like enough bandwidth so that it is comparable to local storage. 100meg symmetric would be adequate, gigabit good. 10gig would be sweet, but I don't want to pay for it :D I don't have 10gig infrastructure yet at home. For even a chance of affordable 100meg uploads I'd need to move to a major city.
 

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Netflix reccomends 25mbs for uhd. But downloading and streaming are two different things.

Weird the denial of cloud with all the things going on with it around us...

lol yeah just streaming blu ray rip 1080p ~30gb files from my server i hit 100mbs at times over lan no way 25mbs could handle true 4k


for the OP
honestly if i had access to 1gb/s internet it would be amazing. the amount of servers i could host would increase exponentially and i sure as hell would be running alot more, be able to do live streams, upload large video's, stream my personal content anywhere. i mean at this point id be happy with 100mbs but.. i have 24/3 lmao its bad i actually host most of my servers at my work on an old work pc sitting under my desk.
 

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PS - Moved the thread to Networking. This is not a GD topic since we have an existing section JUST for networking talk. GD is for generally non technical discussions..

Heh, you moved it to the networking classified section ;)

Feel free to delete this post.
 

Janus67

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Heh, you moved it to the networking classified section ;)

Feel free to delete this post.

Fixed, thanks for noticing!


On-topic: I would love a symmetric gigabit network connection (currently have 500/50) to make downloads/uploading to the cloud faster (assuming they can handle it). I have no real need for a 10gbps to my house as I do not have the infrastructure to support it, being networking or storage. I could see it being helpful for an apartment/condo complex/etc to split the connection and branch out to their residents, but for a 10gbps to a house unless you are serving tons of data/servers and have a ton of machines to take advantage of the available bandwidth it would largely be a waste.
 

Niku-Sama

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your "only $300 /mo" comment strikes me a bit funny, that's a good deal considering that my 60 m/bit connection is $60 a month
 
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SPL Tech

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your "only $300 /mo" comment strikes me a bit funny, that's a good deal considering that my 60 m/bit connection is $60 a month

Yes, it's cheap for what you get. 10 years ago it would cost a million dollars a month for that. 20 years ago you wouldent be able to get it for any amount of money. However, at the end of the day you're paying $300 a month for Internet which would be at least half the payment on a nice, new car. You could also get 1 gig for less than half the price with basically no decrease in ability to do anything aside from hosting a backup server for Google.
 

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If you are going to pay for it... chances are you need it. If not, you can afford it if you are going to get it.
 

EarthDog

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Thats peak sequential large files....aka best case.

Not sure how a DL sends us files exactly, but guessing not in sequential, few MB, size chunks? Maybe with big packets? No idea...

This is why i have games stored on, then backed up on a different ssd. When i blow away my os, i restore from an ssd where it simply verifies the files, rebuilds registry connections, shortcuts, etc. I dont have to dl the game again...worst case, just updates. 10GB cant touch that. :)
 

Mpegger

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Thats peak sequential large files....aka best case.

Not sure how a DL sends us files exactly, but guessing not in sequential, few MB, size chunks? Maybe with big packets? No idea...

It would still need to go through the reset of the internet before it gets to you, and most of WAN is still setup for the standard 1500 byte packet size. I doubt you would ever see the full 10Gbps because of the overhead on such a low packet size. Even 1Gbps takes a hit because of 1500 byte packets.
 

wagex

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Thats peak sequential large files....aka best case.

Not sure how a DL sends us files exactly, but guessing not in sequential, few MB, size chunks? Maybe with big packets? No idea...

This is why i have games stored on, then backed up on a different ssd. When i blow away my os, i restore from an ssd where it simply verifies the files, rebuilds registry connections, shortcuts, etc. I dont have to dl the game again...worst case, just updates. 10GB cant touch that. :)

yeah steam uses chunks 1mb each and has to reassemble them just at 1gbs my spinning disks have a hard time keeping up sometimes. that and at those speeds it starts to get cpu heavy reassembling the chunks.