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2.0a northwood review please read!

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NASsoccer

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this article has also been brought up in the general comp forum... here . Isn't that just the greatest article you have ever read:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 

Matthew1001

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That was a good review. It doesn't make me want to go buy the chip but it isn't suppose to be an ad.

When you are looking for a processor to buy, how do you know if it can be overclocked?
 

gone_fishin

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Matthew1001 said:
That was a good review. It doesn't make me want to go buy the chip but it isn't suppose to be an ad.

When you are looking for a processor to buy, how do you know if it can be overclocked?

If it says Intel, and it says Pentium 4, and this is the important part, if it says 1.6Ghz northwood, then you are guaranteed to be able to overclock. Just how far depends on the other components in your system. I know you AMD guys don't like to hear that but it's true. Athlons overclock great too but not out of the box, you have to connect the bridges and lets face it even a simple thing like that is beyond some peoples ability.
 

MadMan007

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lol, what a joke. I could have written a better 'review'

In the pros he does not mention the fact that there is virtually no way to kill these CPU's, even if you fail to install a HSF.
 

TC

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Uhh that guy doesn't seem to know what he's talking about. Intel chips are not "clock locked" they're multiplier locked, and that doesn't prevent you from overclocking at all. Not only that, the chip he showed in the picture is ES and is not multiplier locked, so he could have overclocked it just like an unlocked Athlon if he had wanted to - or perhaps I should say if he had a clue.
 

Yodums

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TC said:
Uhh that guy doesn't seem to know what he's talking about. Intel chips are not "clock locked" they're multiplier locked, and that doesn't prevent you from overclocking at all. Not only that, the chip he showed in the picture is ES and is not multiplier locked, so he could have overclocked it just like an unlocked Athlon if he had wanted to - or perhaps I should say if he had a clue.

Look at his follow up.. He shouldn't have posted it to begin with!

"Okay, I thank you all for you feedback, positive or not.

As a reviewer, I write not only based on facts, but also on my personal observations when handling and testing the hardware. My duty is to be honest; to write what I see. If I experienced A and wrote B, THAT would be lying.

To answer the jeering about clock-locking I have this:
I could not overclock either chip Intel gave me, either via FSB tweaking or multiplier changing. It simply did not respond to the new settings. This was attempted on 3 different motherboards without yielding any differences. Therefore I conclude that the chips I received are clock locked. However the review also states that the chips were engineering samples. None of my motherboards' CMOS could recognize the chips properly, let alone overclock them.

As for 1.6 and 1.8 Northwoods being readily available and overclockable:
I am a Malaysian. I scout the Malaysian market, based on retail outlets in and around the Klang Valley. Out of all of them only several stocked the said chips last month although nearly all carry the chip now. I personally have not bought one for overclocking purposes. I do have limited finances. As for the Westerm side of the world, I have been aware of their availability for some time, but still, it's a Malaysian review done by one who distrusts online sales.

Finally, the SysMARK 2001 issue:
Both Windows XP and BAPCo's website have cautioned against installing said program on Windows XP as it would not only jeopardize system stability but also return inaccurate results. If the benchmark can't produce accurate results there's no point installing and running it.

I welcome any further arguments in this debate. However I will not reply to personal flaming.

Thank you for your feedback. It will help improve the quality of future reviews."
 

TC

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That's interesting - I've yet to have a problem with a motherboard not recognizing an ES chip. The only difference is the multiplier adjustment actually works!
 

funnyperson1

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Matthew1001 said:
So most northwoods overclock and Intel Pentium 4? Thanks.


well the sad part is that the Northwood 2.0A which he reviewed is one of the better overclockers that are available right now...in conclusion the guy is an idiot....

this guy could be the next THG :eek:

oh yeah ALL norhtwoods and ALL Pentium 4 chips oc EVERY chip Intel has ever made ocs.....