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trickson said:
Well from what I see here they are all full of B.S. over at tom's hardware .
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/phenom-ii-x4-810_13.html#sect0
If you look here you will see that the Q8XXX are blowing the AMD's out of the water so I can not see them taking on the Q9xxx's or even the i7 as toms would lead you to believe . Just seems like to much AMD fanboyisum there at tom's hardware , When EVER single review done proves that tom's hardware is WRONG .
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You know I gotta love this, I agree as I stated I did not like the review but I do think toms shoots pretty close to center they get hated by all. Shoot there was a thread a couple of weeks ago about Toms being Biased against AMD:screwy:Now ppl say it is the other way:screwy:

Personally I think there is no real comparison at the high end for the most part and the review should have pointed at the AM3 architecture compared to AM2.
 
trickson said:
NO Intel is not selling try cores ! NOT ONE intel CPU is a 3 cored CPU ! So you are wrong if it don't work they may be able to get it to work at a diffrent speed but they are not selling off Broken Quad cores as try cores . That is my point !
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I like that I am AMD but try core H*** yeah lets try it and see how many actually work.:p
 
Yes Sir I will stop.:cry:

EDIT: Wait I was being good guess I might have inadvertently caused a non issue issue:)Or contributed in some war:)UHHH I meant way.
 
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"We space trolls"

Intel will either throw our their lame core dies or sell them to HP and Dell without admitting it. AMD has created a great market with otherwise wasted product. As I've said before, tri-core makes a lot of sense and was a smart idea. Fact, we run many games now that use 2 threads. Few products out there in the mainstream use more than 2 threads.
Here is where that third core arrives.
* While you have two threads going in an app the third core is ready to handle background stuff for you (email arriving, system scanning(like we use this tuff) encoding a movie while you are gaming.
* Core hopping, this occurs to keep a temps spread across the die, cooler running, longer lasting. This may also be a benifit to gaining access to more L2 cache for certain programs.
* Cost, lower entry into more cores.
 
I kinda like try Core mine had 4 they tried it it out two worked an I got a great deal:) You know that kinda makes me think back did the 486sx really have the math unit disabled or was it bad links cut and that is where the sx came from kinda like the original Pentium 66 was only a 66 because it made it that far. H*** and I was at IBM at the time and it never crossed my mind??? Kinda wonder where AMD got the salvage idea from?
 
Archer0915 said:
Yes Sir I will stop.:cry:

EDIT: Wait I was being good guess I might have inadvertently caused a non issue issue:)Or contributed in some war:)UHHH I meant way.
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I'm not trying to start a war just trying to keep things real know what I mean ?
I think that selling off broken quad core CPU's is nothing more than a gimmick a way to recover some cash from some thing that is broken . Now as for the OP's post . I think they are right AMD will launched the x3's they will be fine on any AM2 , AM2+ mobo and as far as DDR3 goes it is only 3% faster than the current mainstream line DDR2 . So going to the more expensive DDR3 is a waste right now and If you have a AM2+ mobo with DDR2 RAM why not get a try core if you can not afford a Quad ? I mean it is a good alternative and a good upgrade and all just not some thing for me .
Defiantly a good call from AMD keeping there customer base satisfied .
 
trickson said:
I'm not trying to start a war just trying to keep things real know what I mean ?
I think that selling off broken quad core CPU's is nothing more than a gimmick a way to recover some cash from some thing that is broken . Now as for the OP's post . I think they are right AMD will launched the x3's they will be fine on any AM2 , AM2+ mobo and as far as DDR3 goes it is only 3% faster than the current mainstream line DDR2 . So going to the more expensive DDR3 is a waste right now and If you have a AM2+ mobo with DDR2 RAM why not get a try core if you can not afford a Quad ? I mean it is a good alternative and a good upgrade and all just not some thing for me .
Defiantly a good call from AMD keeping there customer base satisfied .
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There is nothing wrong with selling a chip that samples with 3 fully functioning cores to people for less money than a quad. Intel does this with their clock multipliers. Q9400's and Q9300's are nothing more than broken higher end models. Not only that, but intel turns off features in their chips that sample lower ala the lack of virtualization in their budget chips. The tech is in it.

In fact, the Tri Cores are a very interesting product because the 720 has full Quad Core L3 intact which makes the point of showing that true multi core chips over 2 core arch are L3 dependent.
 
Intel to start core sampling. Guess that ends that debate eh?

During the Intel presenter's discussion of how this core and cache "recovery" scheme "enables multiple product options" from the same die, I couldn't help but think back to one Intel wag's response to the news of AMD's triple-core "Toliman" part; this guy said, and I wish I could find the quote, something to the effect of, "we like for all of the cores on our products to actually work." It was an ice burn at the time, but now it appears that Intel has bowed to the inevitable realities of Moore's Law and will be taking essentially the same tack with all of their parts from here on out.
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I don't understand how it can even be called 'broken.' They are completely disabling the 3rd 'broken' core which is really a core that didn't meet the product standards, which shows Amd is making quality products. In fact I did a report on Amd(got and A+) and they have been a consumer oriented company since before they went public in '72. And the fact that they are making cores for people who either can't afford or just plain don't want to buy a 200+ dollar chip shows they are trying to fit the whole market, not just the 'high-end.' My brother has a c2d in his laptop and always brags about it being faster than my 5200+ which it is, but his was 200+ dollars and I got mine for 65.
 
ChanceCoats123 said:
I don't understand how it can even be called 'broken.' They are completely disabling the 3rd 'broken' core which is really a core that didn't meet the product standards, which shows Amd is making quality products. In fact I did a report on Amd(got and A+) and they have been a consumer oriented company since before they went public in '72. And the fact that they are making cores for people who either can't afford or just plain don't want to buy a 200+ dollar chip shows they are trying to fit the whole market, not just the 'high-end.' My brother has a c2d in his laptop and always brags about it being faster than my 5200+ which it is, but his was 200+ dollars and I got mine for 65.
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Just remember you get what you pay for . But in this case you get a disabled Quad core for what you pay for .
 
 
trickson said:
Just remember you get what you pay for . But in this case you get a disabled Quad core for what you pay for .
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I don't see what your getting at.
You are acting like AMD is marketing these as a lie of some kind. Yes, there is a core disabled, but all the other cores are fine they overclock as well as the quads, if not better, and there cheaper, what's not to like about them

I'm chalking this up to fanboyism
 
Dapman02 said:
I don't see what your getting at.
You are acting like AMD is marketing these as a lie of some kind. Yes, there is a core disabled, but all the other cores are fine they overclock as well as the quads, if not better, and there cheaper, what's not to like about them

I'm chalking this up to fanboyism
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So what you are saying is if you do not like what AMD is doing then you post your thoughts on it and speak your mind then that makes you a fanboy ? Good to know thank you .
no I never said it was a lie nor did I say that it was not a good option for those that have the AM2 + mobo's if they can not afford the Quad . What I have said is that selling me a broken CPU is just not my thing .It is a great way to make a buck but not my thing is all . Now if this makes me a fanboy , well so be it . I have yet to see Intel selling off a try core CPU and even if they DID I would NOT buy one !
 
Archer0915 said:
I kinda like try Core mine had 4 they tried it it out two worked an I got a great deal:) You know that kinda makes me think back did the 486sx really have the math unit disabled or was it bad links cut and that is where the sx came from kinda like the original Pentium 66 was only a 66 because it made it that far. H*** and I was at IBM at the time and it never crossed my mind??? Kinda wonder where AMD got the salvage idea from?
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What about this it is just the way it is AMD and Intel.
 
trickson said:
So what you are saying is if you do not like what AMD is doing then you post your thoughts on it and speak your mind then that makes you a fanboy ? Good to know thank you .
no I never said it was a lie nor did I say that it was not a good option for those that have the AM2 + mobo's if they can not afford the Quad . What I have said is that selling me a broken CPU is just not my thing .It is a great way to make a buck but not my thing is all . Now if this makes me a fanboy , well so be it . I have yet to see Intel selling off a try core CPU and even if they DID I would NOT buy one !
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I do have to apologize about the fanboy remark. Was a little sour at the time.
 
cdawall said:
there are a couple of places you can order AM3 DDR3 boards from
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Yes but thing is is going DDR3 really worth it you will only see a 3% increase in ram performance , Is that worth the extra cost for the RAM and mobo ? If so why not just splurge a little more and go all out with the i7 ? Faster and you get 4 cores with 4 more virtual cores . :eek: :drool:
 
I have officially become and intel fan! my second comp is a celeron @333 mhz with 64 mb of ram (ddr100) and It's running windows 95 :D Desk build.
 
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