5090 Gossip.

[Flamethrower1972]

I saw this Video and the CEO showing the size of that chip is just insane also 32 Gigs of ram. I am guessing the price tag would be around $2850 +.

 

[Flamethrower1972]

Here is some more. What makes me mad is why do Invidia 4070 Super & up dont have 16 gigs of vram???

 

[EarthDog]

What makes me mad is why do Invidia 4070 Super & up dont have 16 gigs of vram???

Well, we've had this discussion before.....


But...

1. The 4070S doesn't need it.
2. The 4080 "& up" has more vRAM. The 4080 has 16GB, the 4090 24GB.

 

[Flamethrower1972]

Well, we've had this discussion before.....


But...

1. The 4070S doesn't need it.
2. The 4080 "& up" has more vRAM. The 4080 has 16GB, the 4090 24GB.

Please tell me why a GPU would not benefit having more vram??? 4070 S 4070 TI 4070 TI S????

 

[EarthDog]

Please tell me why a GPU would not benefit having more vram??? 4070 S 4070 TI 4070 TI S????

The same reasons we covered previously.

Like system RAM, having unused vRAM isn't helpful either. 4070/4070S isn't 'really' a 4K card horsepower-wise (assuming your goals are ultra/60 FPS+). The other cards can do 4K UHD, but, 12GB isn't a performance limiting factor in most cases at 4K.

Take a look at TPU reviews of games and see how many eclipse 12GB... of those that do, how many actually show performance issues??? Then maybe you'll look at it differently.

 

[Flamethrower1972]

The same reasons we covered previously.

Like system RAM, having unused vRAM isn't helpful either. 4070/4070S isn't 'really' a 4K card horsepower-wise (assuming your goals are ultra/60 FPS+). The other cards can do 4K UHD, but, 12GB isn't a performance limiting factor in most cases at 4K.

Take a look at TPU reviews of games and see how many eclipse 12GB... of those that do, how many actually show performance issues??? Then maybe you'll look at it differently.

I don't play in 4k I play in 1440p.I have seen games on the highest setting get close to using all the vram.

 

[EarthDog]

I don't play in 4k I play in 1440p.I have seen games on the highest setting get close to using all the vram.

At 1440p, there's no way I would be 'mad' at 12GB of vRAM on my video card...even 3 years down the road.

Again, LOOK at TPU reviews of games and check vRAM use... or...... look at the thread where we covered and discussed this stuff....the links are already there.

 

[Flamethrower1972]

I just think cards need to move forward in so many ways and Vram is one of them.

 

[EarthDog]

Disagree. I think the only card that's lacking vRAM for the horsepower it has is the 4070 Ti (AMD's GPU has the opposite problem -- they rely on 'a bigger number to attract more (simple) buyers). Still, an overwhelming majority of games do not eclipse the 12GB mark at 4K. But if you're one of the 3% that use 4K monitors, you'll probably want a 4080 or greater to properly drive games at ultra settings. Again, you can lower settings, but, that's not the goal for most people (see Rainless' thread where we covered all of this).

EDIT: Also, previously...12GB was "OK" by you...

IMO 12 gig to 16 gig to me is enough to play 1440p games at max or high settings and 8 gigs with lower setting and 1080p.

..not sure why, 3 weeks later, you're suddenly 'mad'.

 

[Flamethrower1972]

Disagree. I think the only card that's lacking vRAM for the horsepower it has is the 4070 Ti (AMD's GPU have the opposite problem -- they rely on 'bigger number attracts more (simple) buyers). Still, an overwhelming majority of games do not eclipse the 12GB mark at 4K. But if you're one of the 3% that use 4K monitors, you'll probably want a 4080 or greater to properly drive games at ultra settings. Again, you can lower settings, but, that's not the goal for most people (see Rainless' thread where we covered all of All of this IMO

I don't care if you disagree with me this is IMO!!!!!!! You make it sound like law and it's not, try telling AMD & Invidia what you think and I bet they shake you off like fleas.

 

[EarthDog]

...................sooooo saying "IMO" doesn't exclude anyone from a discussion on those thoughts. And just because it's an opinion, doesn't mean it can't be factually incorrect.

I said I DISAGREED with what you said and provided facts to support my thoughts. But when people put ideas out there, others will agree and disagree. If you can't handle this simple premise (it's how forums work, discussions), then perhaps you shouldn't be on forums.

EDIT: The good news is, we're all allowed to have opinions and we don't have to agree with each other. I just happen to disagree with what you're saying.

Now, let's keep this thread about the 5090 rumors moving forward.