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Not that much. Running 1:1 will always give the best performance, but dividers work a bit differently on the A64. It doesn't hurt performance anywhere close to how it does on an AXP.
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90nm Athlon 64 Socket 939 Winchesters are here!
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Not that much. Running 1:1 will always give the best performance, but dividers work a bit differently on the A64. It doesn't hurt performance anywhere close to how it does on an AXP.
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Hmm, I'm wondering if nvidia will be able to make an effective lock on the PCI-e bus. So far intel hasn't and that is really one of the main reasons why socket 775 has had such difficulty overclocking.
I'm starting to itch for something new to put under the phase change... We will have to see how well the new DFI 939board does, and then later how the nforce 4 boards do.
I'm starting to itch for something new to put under the phase change... We will have to see how well the new DFI 939board does, and then later how the nforce 4 boards do.
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just because u use lga775 doesnt mean u have to use PCI-e, get a i875p board, that has AGP and ddr1, and LGA775man_utd said:
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I think the point of his comment was that the Nforce4 boards might not have working PCI-E locks.
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Yes so basically a 2GHz dual core (i.e 2 cpus of 1Ghz each) will be rated to 95W wheareas at present a 2GHz cpu is rated only at 89W (even lower if 90nm power ratings are confirmed). Hopefully by the time they come out 90nm will be perfected and achieving 3GHz might be possible - but this is entire speculation.Pjotr said:
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Maybe I didn't understand right, but I thought this 2GHz dual core, consists of 2x2GHz cores. Looking at the thermal design of mobile chips at 2Ghz it could be possible that 2x2GHz cores stay below 100W.
Another reason could be lowered heat of the 90nm A64 and that only the best cores will be used for dual core.
I can't believe that two 1GHz cores would put out that much power.
Another reason could be lowered heat of the 90nm A64 and that only the best cores will be used for dual core.
I can't believe that two 1GHz cores would put out that much power.
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Dual core does not mean they package 2 of the best cores together. It will be faster than 1 Ghz more likely 1.4-1.6 IMO.
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The 2GHz for BOTH (ie total) is roughly correct for those at launch. Indeed it may well be optimistic some are saying they will launch at 1.6GHz. (clockspeeds expected to be 600Mhz to 1Ghz lower than at present in TOTAL).
The shortfall is then made up by performance improvements over single core of between 30 to 55%.
http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20041005_205914.html
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1666805,00.asp
http://www.x86-secret.com/?option=newsd&nid=767 (for the french speakers!)
The notion of 1.4 to 1.6GHz EACH cpu is highly unlikely given the near doubling of transistors and only a 95W TDP!
The shortfall is then made up by performance improvements over single core of between 30 to 55%.
http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20041005_205914.html
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1666805,00.asp
http://www.x86-secret.com/?option=newsd&nid=767 (for the french speakers!)
The notion of 1.4 to 1.6GHz EACH cpu is highly unlikely given the near doubling of transistors and only a 95W TDP!
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Intel's HT can be simulated. This is very fine, because Intel tried all the time to make users believe that HT is such a fantastic feature, and now AMD can say "go ahead"
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Any news on when Newegg is getting the Winchester back in?
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Well, I guess that gives Abit time to get their new boards out. I'd be waiting for that anyway, so np there.
Has anyone seen a big benefit in buying the 3200+ over the 3000+? Or are the overclocks about the same on air?
Has anyone seen a big benefit in buying the 3200+ over the 3000+? Or are the overclocks about the same on air?
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There are simply too few reports yet. Many people haven't bought the CPU because they're waiting for the nForce4 chipset which is supposed to be announced next week but it's anybody's guess when we'll see those boards availabe to be shipped to customers.
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You have a socket 754 (I think Clawhammer going by your default). We are talking about the Winchesters.Overlag said:3200 here, tops out at about 2200mhz 1.5volts (motherboard wont allow higher)
not sure if im missing something thats making this SO bad at overclocking.
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I thought people hadn't bought the chips because they just can't get any. For a couple weeks now.
I'm willing to wait till after Christmas though. I'll save a ton of cash that way and maybe we'll even have boards with SLI by then.
I'm willing to wait till after Christmas though. I'll save a ton of cash that way and maybe we'll even have boards with SLI by then.
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How did you get one in the UK? Do overclockers.co.uk have them? If so are they still in stock (last time I checked they were on preorder)?
Edit - oh I see Evesham Technology has them in the UK
Edit - oh I see Evesham Technology has them in the UK
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OEM though.
just stuck 1.6volts through mine, so far so good @ 2500mhz
