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I see your points for CPU AIO, but my suspicion is that I could still get a few hundred MHz more in the peak. Outside of benchmarking this may not be big gains, especially for sub-4k gaming, but who cares... I go for speed 
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9800x3D build planning
- Thread starter Dolk
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at 120w I would go air cooled just to have the ease of maintenance, but thats me.
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- #23
Chosen Memory: https://www.amazon.com/G-SKILL-Trident-CL30-39-39-102-Desktop-Computer/dp/B0DD2M5247?th=1
I'm going to use the older WB (can't remember whos it is) for now. I'll look into more cooling solutions as the 5090s get here. For now I think I have a good setup to start with.
I'm going to use the older WB (can't remember whos it is) for now. I'll look into more cooling solutions as the 5090s get here. For now I think I have a good setup to start with.
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I went straight to 64GB (2x32) because I wanted 2R modules, not because of the capacity. To be fair, I still have no solid data on how much benefit it gives in DDR5 era, but it makes a huge difference in DDR4 era in some workloads (assuming all other specs are identical). If I can, I will. Maybe that'll be my next plaything. Try to get the same kit at 2x16GB and do a comparison between them.
I don't think it was announced other than "after CES", so mid-Jan 2025 or maybe Feb. I can be wrong, I just haven't seen any news about it. I wanted 9950X3D, but I guess I won't get it.
@Dolk, for synthetic bandwidth/latency, the best is AIDA64, but if you are going to use specific applications, then test various settings on those applications or something similar that has a built-in benchmark. I don't know what you are going to use. For rendering, Blender shows differences better than Cinebench. For games, Cyberpunk or older stuff like Shadow of the Tomb Raider react well to RAM settings (typically up to +/- 10 at 1440p and +/-25 FPS at 1080p). From other things that are free, you can check the 7-Zip benchmark. Tests all available threads and all RAM. It's also great as a stability test.
@Dolk, for synthetic bandwidth/latency, the best is AIDA64, but if you are going to use specific applications, then test various settings on those applications or something similar that has a built-in benchmark. I don't know what you are going to use. For rendering, Blender shows differences better than Cinebench. For games, Cyberpunk or older stuff like Shadow of the Tomb Raider react well to RAM settings (typically up to +/- 10 at 1440p and +/-25 FPS at 1080p). From other things that are free, you can check the 7-Zip benchmark. Tests all available threads and all RAM. It's also great as a stability test.
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- #30
I'll use it to tune in the RAM settings, I'd like to see about 6000 vs 6400.
I'm curious to do a A B comparison but also kinda feel like it won't have too much worth. Reviewers already show the difference between 5800x3D and 9800x3D.
MaxxMem still worth it?
I'm curious to do a A B comparison but also kinda feel like it won't have too much worth. Reviewers already show the difference between 5800x3D and 9800x3D.
MaxxMem still worth it?
It's made by "enthusiasts" to help with competitive benching.
By the way, you can try 6400 CL28-38-38 or 28-39-39, and whatever VDD/VDDQ it needs to be stable (1.50-1.55V probably, depending on RAM). From that point, you can go up and check the same RAM at 8000 1:2 CL34/36 1.45-1.50V. Some tests may look better at 8K. Set tREFI/tREF (naming depends on mobo) to the possible max. It can be ~64k or ~256k (depending on the mobo). It helps more than anything else you set.
By the way, you can try 6400 CL28-38-38 or 28-39-39, and whatever VDD/VDDQ it needs to be stable (1.50-1.55V probably, depending on RAM). From that point, you can go up and check the same RAM at 8000 1:2 CL34/36 1.45-1.50V. Some tests may look better at 8K. Set tREFI/tREF (naming depends on mobo) to the possible max. It can be ~64k or ~256k (depending on the mobo). It helps more than anything else you set.
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Seems like the 9800x3d is being scalped like an nvidia card right now. I got in on a backorder from newegg but no idea how long that usually takes. Kind of flip flopping on ram right now since some people say 6400 cas 30 and some say 6000 cas 30 to stay in gear one. I'm guessing is probably isn't a huge deal on an 8 core but I could be wrong.
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"Our primary goal is to regain trust in benchmarking..."
But yet you have to go through Discord to get information, which is notorious for being the worst place to document anything.
I'll try out your suggestion Woomack. Still waiting for all the parts to get here. Worst is that I need to move all my data hording to a NAS for the first time. That will at least burn a week.
@Brando yeah I'm seeing prices as high as $1K USD. Nutz. CPU scalping used to never be a thing outside of the OC community.
But yet you have to go through Discord to get information, which is notorious for being the worst place to document anything.
I'll try out your suggestion Woomack. Still waiting for all the parts to get here. Worst is that I need to move all my data hording to a NAS for the first time. That will at least burn a week.
@Brando yeah I'm seeing prices as high as $1K USD. Nutz. CPU scalping used to never be a thing outside of the OC community.
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I got notification from newegg that my 9800x3d is being packaged and made ready to ship. That wasn't bad at all (2 days) and I was worried from the headlines about no more being available till next year. I think now I'm going to order the msi tomahawk x870 wifi with some gskill 6000 cas 30. I thought about getting 6400 but I'm coming across info on the web saying it's a crapshoot and 6000 is good enough while almost guaranteed to work.
EDIT: Ordered! Can't wait.
EDIT: Ordered! Can't wait.
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- #38
Congrats! I wonder if someone just returned it un-opened or something like that.
Btw, anyone have PSU suggestions that support PCIe 5.1 Power Spec? My assumption is that we'll need 2x of these for the 5090 to cover the 800W power draw. (Based on rumors)
Btw, anyone have PSU suggestions that support PCIe 5.1 Power Spec? My assumption is that we'll need 2x of these for the 5090 to cover the 800W power draw. (Based on rumors)
I've seen 500W power draw... Any high-quality 1KW unit will handle that.
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I don't doubt that these GPUs will be speced for 500W to 600W usage. My bet is that they are rated for higher power draw. One of the biggest issues with the 4090 is that it kept exceeding the 600W power connector limits (among other connector issues). The obvious way to stop having power connector issues is to upgrade the connector. Since that standard is locked in, I'm guessing Nvidia will have 2x 12vHPWR for the 5090. 5080 and 5070 will use 1x 12vHPWR.
However, the PSU releases are not confirming my theory. We would probably see more PSUs out right now for the 5090 / AI systems (multiple 5070s or 5080s, etc) where the consumer would need multiple 12vHPWRs. CES2025 will either prove I'm right or wrong.
However, the PSU releases are not confirming my theory. We would probably see more PSUs out right now for the 5090 / AI systems (multiple 5070s or 5080s, etc) where the consumer would need multiple 12vHPWRs. CES2025 will either prove I'm right or wrong.
