9800x3D build planning

[Dolk]

I think the professional website loss are just a symptom of new media winning, which is a byproduct of fast marketing. However I think even without fast marketing, podcast / YT style reporting would have always won. There are still professionals creating excellent information, but its not an entire company producing that information its just one person with a small team. For me ChipsAndCheese and High Yield have replaced the deeper dives that Anandtech, BitTech, and others used to have.

I will agree that fast marketing is the main problem. We are in another wave of explosive tech enrichment due to advancements in silicon manufacturing. These companies could slow down on production advancements but thanks to Moors law, we drive harder and harder. Its not like TSMC has high yield anymore for its latest nodes, especially when you throw in these new chip stacking that AMD and Intel are doing.

 

[SF101]

I feel like the 9800X3D was a paper launch now.
Sure USA had a ton of them and what not i mean the freaking rumored 9600x3d is going to release exclusively at microcenter.
Hey up here in AB Canada I'd like one of those how about @ 400$?
My supplier Quoted me and I'm also 1st or so on the Back order list in Canada 650$CAD $ Why have these CPU's not been available outside USA yet what a joke.

 

[dumpa]

I feel like the 9800X3D was a paper launch now.
Sure USA had a ton of them and what not i mean the freaking rumored 9600x3d is going to release exclusively at microcenter.
Hey up here in AB Canada I'd like one of those how about @ 400$?
My supplier Quoted me and I'm also 1st or so on the Back order list in Canada 650$CAD $ Why have these CPU's not been available outside USA yet what a joke.

They are not really available in the US. I've been on several waiting lists and I have not received a single email about 9800x3d being available. It's too late now because I purchased a 9900X

 

[Dolk]

Intel Vs. Samsung Vs. TSMC

Foundry competition heats up in three dimensions and with novel technologies as planar scaling benefits diminish.

semiengineering.com

This article is a nice technical brief on what each FAB house is doing for the current and next generation of silicon technology. Reading between the lines, and understanding the technology, the biggest issue in modern silicon processors is that the technology is all very new, and there are a lot of issues with it. There are countless amount of production issues that each FAB house is working to overcome. They have all figured out paths toward production, but at a high cost and a low yield rate. This, along with other world factors, have caused the prices to climb and the parts to be scarce. It will be like this for a long time I think. When more FAB houses come online in USA, and Europe, than maybe we will see things change.

 

[dumpa]

Intel Vs. Samsung Vs. TSMC

Foundry competition heats up in three dimensions and with novel technologies as planar scaling benefits diminish.

semiengineering.com

This article is a nice technical brief on what each FAB house is doing for the current and next generation of silicon technology. Reading between the lines, and understanding the technology, the biggest issue in modern silicon processors is that the technology is all very new, and there are a lot of issues with it. There are countless amount of production issues that each FAB house is working to overcome. They have all figured out paths toward production, but at a high cost and a low yield rate. This, along with other world factors, have caused the prices to climb and the parts to be scarce. It will be like this for a long time I think. When more FAB houses come online in USA, and Europe, than maybe we will see things change.

I just wish retailers would do more to limit scalping.

 

[EarthDog]

I just wish retailers would do more to limit scalping.

Such as...? What can a retailer do outside of the typical 'one per customer'-type deal?

Post magically merged: Dec 16, 2024

I feel like the 9800X3D was a paper launch now.

Hard to be a paper launch when there was stock. It's vaporware now.

Intel Vs. Samsung Vs. TSMC

Foundry competition heats up in three dimensions and with novel technologies as planar scaling benefits diminish.

semiengineering.com

This article is a nice technical brief on what each FAB house is doing for the current and next generation of silicon technology. Reading between the lines, and understanding the technology, the biggest issue in modern silicon processors is that the technology is all very new, and there are a lot of issues with it. There are countless amount of production issues that each FAB house is working to overcome. They have all figured out paths toward production, but at a high cost and a low yield rate. This, along with other world factors, have caused the prices to climb and the parts to be scarce. It will be like this for a long time I think. When more FAB houses come online in USA, and Europe, than maybe we will see things change.

This would be awesome as it's own thread, not buried in a personal AMD build thread. I'll move it tonight unless there are worthwhile objections.

 

[Dolk]

I can make a thread for people to become aware of why new chips are scarce and the prices keep rising beyond inflation and scalping.

 

[dumpa]

Such as...? What can a retailer do outside of the typical 'one per customer'-type deal?

Post magically merged: Dec 16, 2024

Hard to be a paper launch when there was stock. It's vaporware now.



This would be awesome as it's own thread, not buried in a personal AMD build thread. I'll move it tonight unless there are worthwhile objections.

Well, for example Best Buy will limit one per customer but that only means one per order. You can go right back and purchase another. So why not limit one per credit card, address, etc?

 

[EarthDog]

Well, for example Best Buy will limit one per customer but that only means one per order. You can go right back and purchase another. So why not limit one per credit card, address, etc?

Thats terrible (good to know.. ). So they really haven't implemented a 'one per customer' situation. I'd imagine that doesn't work for people who have 'an account' there (enter your email/phone to get your points).

I was looking for things i didnt know/mention, lol. What else can retailers do?

 

[Woomack]

When scalpers buy from distribution, then it doesn't matter. They can instantly buy all stock. There are 3-5 official distributors in the largest countries, sometimes less. If someone is quick then can get everything that is available.
Most retail stores don't buy more than a couple of products, and more often, they use distribution stock. Prices change so often that smaller stores try not to purchase anything unless someone has already ordered from them.
Another thing is that most large online stores have their own sources and skip official distribution. Manufacturers often can't easily track this, and I guess they don't care much, considering that their products sell well.

 

[JLK03F150]

My local Microcenter has 25+ 9800X3D CPUs back in stock @ $480. They are in-store only & limited to 1 per household. Get'um while they're hot!

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Granite Ridge AM5 4.70GHz 8-Core Boxed Processor - Heatsink Not Included - Micro Center

Get it now! Power up your gaming and content creation experience with the AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Granite Ridge Processor. Equipped with AMD's cutting-edge 3D V-Cache technology, this 8-core, 16-thread powerhouse brings you up to 4.

www.microcenter.com

 

[EarthDog]

My local Microcenter has 25+ 9800X3D CPUs back in stock @ $480. They are in-store only & limited to 1 per household. Get'um while they're hot!

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Granite Ridge AM5 4.70GHz 8-Core Boxed Processor - Heatsink Not Included - Micro Center

Get it now! Power up your gaming and content creation experience with the AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Granite Ridge Processor. Equipped with AMD's cutting-edge 3D V-Cache technology, this 8-core, 16-thread powerhouse brings you up to 4.

www.microcenter.com

Same at the Cbus store (just checked with your post)... come get em...

...or, if soneone needs to, I can get one. I'm literally going to the store tomorrow (perhaps at the end of the week too)... and now that I know they are there... may get one.....

 

[Dolk]

I think I'm very close to finding my max settings.

Combined test was to stress the Infinity Fabric, CPU + RAM + VRAM.

 

[Dolk]

I just noticed that my tPHYRDL is at different values. 35 on one stick, 37 on another. How do I make these the same?

 

[Woomack]

I don't even know what it is (if it's even correct). It can be under a different option in the BIOS. ZenTimings is not correct in everything. It's not any official tool and it wasn't even updated for a long time.
Another thing is that some timings are slightly different for all sticks/banks. I wouldn't really care about it.

 

[Dolk]

I can boot at 107MHz bus clock and its somewhat stable. I can probably do 5.8GHz boost for benching but not gaming. I'll keep fiddling. I think I got very lucky with my CPU.