A total NOOB looking for help in OCing Q6600

[Film_Maker]

Thanks FX4. Looking at the site I see a different few version of SetFSB. I have Asus Rampage Frmula MB. Any idea which verwsion? Thanks again.

 

[Theocnoob]

With all due respect, if you're not willing to do any research or look into things or try to understand the guide and just want cookie cutter solutions that are going to be sort of 1/2 effective and possible cause more damage than good, this may be the wrong forum.

Google why overclocking in bios is better than in windows. Read the C2D/C2Q guide, look up terms you don't understand, read other threads. If you have a question about something specific along the way and you can't find an answer, ask. Once you know the basics, you can come and say this is what I have so far what do you think I should tweak, and one of the people who handles that kind of thread like Trents will come along and walk you through it. You can't just show up at 'the garage' and say ' it's making a clunking sound'. We hand you a basic manual about engines and then you come back and say there's something wrong with my main drive belt I tried this but it didn't work and we walk you through it, and you learn something. The way we basically work is that we bring new people into the fold so they too can learn and help other people. Dispensing cookie cutter solutions is both ineffective and pointless. Those people don't learn and they just leave and we'd be left with the same core group, which does wither away. Nobody stays on a forum for 20 years.

 

[FX4]

Oh you have an Asus board? I thought you had a stock HP box. This is not the best method for you to overclock then. You are better off going into the bios and setting things up. Find your motherboard on this site. I'm sure somebody has overclocked this CPU with it. I swear I'm reading too many of these Q6600 threads. They are blurring together.

 

[Theocnoob]

Oh you have an Asus board? I thought you had a stock HP box. This is not the best method for you to overclock then. You are better off going into the bios and setting things up. Find your motherboard on this site. I'm sure somebody has overclocked this CPU with it. I swear I'm reading too many of these Q6600 threads. They are blurring together.

Thank you.

 

[FX4]

With all due respect, if you're not willing to do any research or look into things or try to understand the guide and just want cookie cutter solutions that are going to be sort of 1/2 arsed, this may be the wrong forum.

Google why overclocking in bios is better than in windows. Read the C2D/C2Q guide, look up terms you don't understand, read other threads. If you have a question about something specific along the way and you can't find an answer, ask. Once you know the basics, you can come and say this is what I have so far what do you think I should tweak, and one of the people who handles that kind of thread like Trents will come along and walk you through it. You can't just show up at 'the garage' and say ' it's making a clunking sound'. We hand you a basic manual about engines and then you come back and say there's something wrong with my main drive belt I tried this but it didn't work and we walk you through it, and you learn something. The way we basically work is that we bring new people into the fold so they too can learn and help other people. Dispensing cookie cutter solutions is both ineffective and pointless. Those people don't learn and they just leave and we'd be left with the same core group, which does wither away. Nobody stays on a forum for 20 years.

Well if you actually did your research you would know that SetFSB sets the BIOS clock rate and is not a software overclock like some other applications. BTW, I spent three years in the microprocessor industry as a technical support and manufacturing engineer. I was one of the guys that helped pioneer PCB packages for FPGAs. Prior to the PCB packages we used ceramic from Kyocera. While I don't claim to be an expert with current microprocessors I do know my way around a motherboard and ASIC.

 

[FX4]

I shouldn't have been so snarky. SetFSB just gives you a way to get at things hidden from the bios menu screens that the motherboard manufacturer does not want you to access. You are setting values in the BIOS. There are a few other programs that allow you to do similar things and more. There are as you are aware also programs that just software overclock and I do agree that the ones I have played with are not too stable.

 

[FX4]

Film_maker you can still use the method I described above but it is not the best way to overclock on your system because your BIOS provides the ability to overclock. As they say the most direct route is always the best route.

 

[Film_Maker]

You can't just show up at 'the garage' and say ' it's making a clunking sound'. We hand you a basic manual about engines and then you come back and say there's something wrong with my main drive belt I tried this but it didn't work and we walk you through it, and you learn something. The way we basically work is that we bring new people into the fold so they too can learn and help other people. Dispensing cookie cutter solutions is both ineffective and pointless. Those people don't learn and they just leave and we'd be left with the same core group, which does wither away. Nobody stays on a forum for 20 years.

That is a fair statment. An apprentice is looking for training here!

So I understand there are 3 compnents to be weatked: CPU (FSB) + RAM + Voltage

So after a bit of reading I got some of the basics:

So to overclock we start with speed (FSB) and set it gradually to desired goal speed. At the same time turn everything else down to focus on one thing at a time and make sure it works right?

So turn down CPU multiplier and RAM multiplier. Next focus on increasing base clock by 20 MHz.

Then run start up Prime95 stress test. If it does not crash, go back and increase clock speed by 20.

If it crashes, the go into BIOS and increase voltage by one increment and run the test again till it is stable at disred speed.
Next is RAM. Go back and increase RAM Multiplier to get it ruunning at stock speed.

This is my high level understanding of overclocking so far.

Some concepts I need help with:
- CPU Multiplier. how is it calculated?
- RAM Nultiplier. How is it calculated? How does effect the OC.

Thanks for sharing the knowledge.

 

[FX4]

With your objectives you aren't trying anything extreme so you don't really need to worry about RAM. In your case if you are just shooting for 3GHz you can do this without touching the multiplier. Just shoot for 1333 like you originally asked. If it boots then run prime 95. If it fails you can try bumping the core voltage and try again. If prime 95 fails try bumping the core voltage. Conservative adjustments are best.

 

[Film_Maker]

After reading up on the ASUS mobo, I realized it has a feature called level up whih is for noobs oc. It allows options: QX6700, 6800, 6850 and crazy.

I assume QX6700 = 2.66 Gigahertz, QX6800 =2.93 Gigahertz QX6850 = 3.0 (there is also a crazy option but not sure of its speed)

So does that mean selecting one of these, it will OC and automatically adjust all other settings (voltage, RAM)?I assume it will not be optimized as ocing via bios.